LizT

You are so evil....I love it! And you have a million "imagined" scenarios of what happened after he opened his sports bag...three days later...after a jog back to the car and tossed into the back seat....the dog was on cheap dry food and it broke up....when he opened it to get his towel after his dog has stepped on it in the bag etc. etc.

You know it's funny because years ago I used to have mixed feelings about dog poo in plastic bags. Knowing it would take years to break down as opposed to the poo just drying up and disintergrating........but now with the bio friendly breakdown plastic bags there really is no excuse.

Indeed. I recall a post here some time back where a Doler tells of a neighbour of hers (across the road I think) who lets his dog out for a toilet early in the morning a lets it go on the next door neighbours lawn.

Congratulations on getting your boys title!! Those last few points must be frustrating ones! My girl came second to the Cav Ruby bitch that got Intermediate. Nice to see her go well, it's nicer to come second to a dog that does well. E.T.A. I hear the Ruby Cav bitch got her title finalised yesterday too!

You can just imagine the scenarios this nice fellow must have encountered to be so cautious.

Actually lots of people think that dogs aren't allowed on beaches full stop...except between May and October. There should probably be more signage?? Or better literacy programs...

Yeah...isn't that what the neighbours front lawn is for...so much nicer than our lawn and the dogs love to poo there!!!!

I have Cavaliers. They get nothing that doesn't come out of their dinner bowls (which they nicely 'sit' and await an "okay" when placed down at dinner time. The only other 'food' they get are from me only as either a training treat or teeth cleaning bone or similar. The same goes for the German Shepherd. That said I have evidence that suggests my OH gives bits of Roast beef trimmings to one of our Cavs when he cuts his lunches! Why else would she fly off the bed in the evening when she hear him open the fridge and get down the bread board!

This is where the danger lies in any type of "INFO MATION". People will take the 'condensed' version of anything over the long drawn out informative lessons in life. It's just sooo much easier. Yes, it may be light hearted viewing but you will hear people say....Don Burke said this......The Bondi Vet says that....Caeser Milan says....and so on.

It reminds me of that "What's that dog looking at?" clip in the "Funny Home Video Show"??!! (my kids used to watch when they were little) You know where the Schnauzer (I think) walks up to the fence and sticks his head through a hole. A bit voyeristic, don't think the neighbours would like it. I used to get peeved when the neighbours kids used to stand and stare into our yard when they were little (wire fence), glad they grew out of that one!

all creatures, another thing that has just come to mind (I owned my Schipperke in the mid 1980's so "old timers" creeps in sometimes! LOL) is that: "A schipperke is small dog that doesn't believe it is a small dog" (meaning it doesn't believe it has any size limitations!) Therefore your calling time out may be the only time out that is called! Also (and of no relevance whatsoever in this case but equally amusing "A Schipperke does not like to be laughed at and takes itself very seriously" Go figure.

Awwwwwww!!!!

I've owned many breeds (Schipperke included) and I treat all baby puppies the same regardless of their breed. All need time out so continue to do what you have and give your puppy time out whether she thinks she needs it or not. A bit like a pre-schoolers afternoon nap time, not well received but when you check on them they are snoozing! Recently there was a post about a 8 week old German Shepherd that the owner had left to play for hours with a 12 week old Maltese puppy. (Not suggesting for one moment you would do this) the end result was an exhausted GSD puppy that could barely stand. I think you understand that playtime needs to be retricted for now for a multitude of reasons. Use whatever method best works in your household. I use a puppy pen, a. because I have one and b. my home is of an open plan design and it is best for the safety of the youngsters and give me "time out" for that cuppa! :D

I guess it's also a matter of personal perspective. I have an aquaintence who breeds "Beagliers". When I got my first Cavalier bitch he suggested I send her down to "visit" his dog when she was old enough! I explained to him that I was planning to be involved with the ANKC, she was a registered bitch, that I wanted to show and hopefully breed Cavaliers in the future and that this was against the principles set out in the Breeders Examination I was going to sit. I went on to explain to him about how I couldn't cross bred my bitch or even bred her with an unregistered purebred Cavalier according to the directives set out. He told me I should tell the ANKC to "Get F*#$ed" and how dare they tell me what I could and could'nt do with my own dog! I told him I didn't have a problem with the guidelines set out and that IMO they were there for the betterment of the breed. We left it at that.

Last night my GSD did the "whingey whiney howley" thingy!!! On and off ALL NIGHT!! I had to keep getting up and "hushing him' Lucky I'm home on Holidays at the moment. We have had a coloney of Fruit bats (Flying foxes) move into our area recently and each dusk and the chatter like a cross between a troop of monkeys and a flock of parrots after dark. This goes on until about 3.00 am when they must fly off in search of food??!! We have a lot of orchards in the area and this is not going to have a happy ending for the bats I'm afraid! Our poor GSD doesn't know what to make of them and I think he is a bit scared of them??? Since he doesn't bark but whines and howles when they come in. They have parked themselves right in a Eucalyptus next to the house.

My GSD barks at night. Only I ever heard it in our family and it wasn't a problem as I used to get up and "ask" him to "show" me what was upsetting him. This was the advice I was given by our obedience trainer. It did, however become a problem when I started to work night shift and the rest of the family let him bark and bark and bark and didn't wake up. Our next door neighbour wrote me a nice note (it was!) saying that the dog was barking at night and it was keeping her awake. I wrote a note back saying I thought this was the problem with being a mum and a light sleeper and I had purchased a bark control collar that day and would put it on him at night before I left for work but that it could take a few days to work (according to the instructions). It worked instantaneously. That was three years ago and we haven't had to use the collar much these days and haven't really had a problem with his barking since. He does still bark at the odd possum, wombat or if people are walking up the street in the wee small hours. He is a German Shepherd and alerting us is in his instincts. Nowadays my OH hears him bark and just puts him on the chain near his bed at the house so he settles down and forgets about whatever it is 'at the bottom of the garden' that set him off in the first place.

that doesnt bother me as the rescue didnt breed her and the pups will be desexed before rehome, but i understand what your saying but to intentionally do it when u r a registered breeder? thought we only had to edcuate the general public about BYB and puppy farming, but obvioulsy not I would just think it gives good ethical breeders a bad name and that isnt right You can't give a "good ethical breeder a bad name". Only they can do that for themselves by NOT being "good ethical breeders" to begin with. Sadly being a "Registered Breeder" doesn't necessarily mean you are "ethical".

It's not just about the choppers though, it's also about evac centres being able to allow pets which would allow people with pets to get themselves out early, not everyone will have someone that can look after all their animals for them. The Brissie evac centre initially wouldn't allow animals even though there are horse stables and chook sheds there (the show grounds) it's not like people were going to be sleeping in the stables or the chook shed anyway so there is absolutely no reason they couldnt be utilized for pet owners who I'm sure would sleep in a stable if it meant having their pet with them. There are a lot of reasons why Australias evacuation plans should incorporate measures for ensuring pet owners can take their pets, the research shows that it actually saves more human lives because there are less delays and emergency personell aren't risking their lives trying to save people who are trying to save their pets when they could have gotten out much earlier. There will always be people who leave it too late or circumstances where there is no warning but in the vast majority of cases people will take extra risks if they aren't supported in their efforts to save their pets. This was seen after hurricane Katrina when many people went back into the ruins to look for their pets before it had been declared safe, and human lives were lost. Yes, this is true and this is what should happen in the event of a "controlled and predicted evacuation". People need their "family" around them and Pets are their family of sorts. LizT I have said this more than once. But it must need repeating. Some people only have pets as their family. I'm actually a little offended that, on a dog lover's forum, anyone would suggest that pets are "their family of sorts" when it's clear that a lot of us do have only dogs or other pets living with us and that in any disaster, many of us will stay with those dogs/pets rather than leave them behind if they're not welcome in evac centres. I will evac early IF my dogs are welcome at the evac centres and if I can crate them, which I can, what possible reason could anyone have to not allowing me to spend my time in the evac centre right next to them even if that meant I slept in a stable or chicken shed? I'm providing their food so I'm not taking food away from people. Alternatively, when it's an emergency situation and there's nowhere else to go such as all roads being cut by flood or fire, if my dogs can't come with me then I will remain with them. It would destroy me to leave them behind in the same way that some parents would feel if they were forced into leaving their children behind. No, I'm not saying my dogs are children, either. What I am saying is that my dogs are of no less importance to me than someone else's children are of importance to them. Does that help? Yes, I can fully 'see' the level of connection you have for your dogs. I hope that you (and all DOLers) are never put in a situation that requires any of the afore mentioned scenarios. Also as previously stated, when faced with a possible bushfire evacuation in 2009, I had crates, food, water etc. should it had become necessary to evacuate for our 3 dogs and three cats. (along with baby photo albums, important documents etc and provisions for us ALL ready to go.) There was never a question of evacuating without them, given time.

It's not just about the choppers though, it's also about evac centres being able to allow pets which would allow people with pets to get themselves out early, not everyone will have someone that can look after all their animals for them. The Brissie evac centre initially wouldn't allow animals even though there are horse stables and chook sheds there (the show grounds) it's not like people were going to be sleeping in the stables or the chook shed anyway so there is absolutely no reason they couldnt be utilized for pet owners who I'm sure would sleep in a stable if it meant having their pet with them. There are a lot of reasons why Australias evacuation plans should incorporate measures for ensuring pet owners can take their pets, the research shows that it actually saves more human lives because there are less delays and emergency personell aren't risking their lives trying to save people who are trying to save their pets when they could have gotten out much earlier. There will always be people who leave it too late or circumstances where there is no warning but in the vast majority of cases people will take extra risks if they aren't supported in their efforts to save their pets. This was seen after hurricane Katrina when many people went back into the ruins to look for their pets before it had been declared safe, and human lives were lost. Yes, this is true and this is what should happen in the event of a "controlled and predicted evacuation". People need their "family" around them and Pets are their family of sorts. I was just highlighting the difficulties faced in a non-predicted emergency such as bushfires (some arsonists really know how to pick their days!) or earthquake. The old adage of "Women and children first" still applies in an evac situation. First the sick, the elderly and the children, then women and abled bodies men last. Sadly pets don't enter into a TRUE emergency. Tuck a puppy or kitten in your jacket if you're lucky! But certainly, I agree, where possible, pets should be accomodated in an evac. Centre. Although truth be told it's a mammoth task just feeding the people. There could also be some resentment about space "needlessly" (in their eyes) being wasted on pets. Also many 'culture' now living in this country do not believe in sharing space with dogs...but that is a whole different topic. As stated....an emotive situation.

Unfortunately I wouldn't even consider taking this dog. I'm not a fan of small dogs and this boy has far too many issues for me to take on, not that I couldn't work with him but I really just don't want to I will have my own puppy to care for next week.. He has found a new home now so I'm sure he will have a much better and stress free life with this new lady. I just called the vet that the lady said he was getting desexed at to make sure she actually DID book the appt and yes, he's definitely all set to go :D Sounds like the pup will soon be on a 'healing path'. I hope it finds happiness and serenity in it's new home. Now all we need is the same for your sis-in-law.

Absolutely! I don't think it is an unfair request that she respect the fact that you are getting a new puppy in your home. Besides, she needs some stability in her life before she takes on responsibility for another.

I think I'll extend that wish to everyone

What a great idea! The other problem is dogs can panic in a helicoptor evac situation. Many Rescue type helicoptors will have open sides and a dog could jump or even cause an owner who is trying to stop it or settle it to fall or be knocked out. Then there is the case of added weight. What if the person has four hefty breed dogs? In an emergency situation there could be a couple up the road who could be rescued in this very same trip sans the neighbors dogs. But these muzzles could have applications keeping the peace if various 'stranger' dogs needed to be kept together for a period of time at a Evac Centre.

I agree. And I'm not saying I would leave my dogs (or cats either) There are enough crates, carriers etc. Vans, cars utes (5 between us now!) I'm just saying that one could be faced with a on the spot, make a decision, get out or die situation. There just simple may not be time. Not all disasters are predictable. I fully agree that evacuation centres should take pets. I think it would be great for morale. I had friends who lost pets too. The CFA came to assist as their house burnt, the dogs (GSD's) were in a yard near the house so Granma let them out, they took fright of the Fire Trucks ran into the bush and their bodies were found later. I believe everyone should have some kind of "disaster plan", bottled water, non perishable foods, candles , batteries Radio etc. on hand. Especially City People (well some I know anyway) who think they are immume to such things and that they are safe. A city can be a very dangerous place in the case of fire, flood or earthquake. Melbourne has a green belt of Eucalypts that would burn for days from the suburbs right up to the city. This was a major fear of the fires getting out of control on Black Saturday and turning towards Warrandyte and Eltham. I think we will see more 'offical' evaculation centres pop up in the future.

Everyone has different opinions. Personally, I have two disabled birds and a dog who can't swim. No chance would I be leaving them behind to die. The others might have a chance, since Zac can swim and two birds are fully flighted but in an emergency, I know who i would be grabbing and i wouldn't leave unless i knew they were safe. As I say, If it were only myself I had to be responsible for I would probably try to stay with my animals. Also if I had pre-warning of an inpending disaster I would also try to take my animals. On the Black Saturday bush fires I took all rugs off my horses and moved them into a paddock that had no grass. They stood a better chance there than stuck in a horse float on a bottle neck road with panicked people. Many people perished in their cars that day. We stayed home and fortunately we were okay, nearby fires were controlled and embers delt with. We all end up having to make decisions on a case by case basis. The truth is it is easier to talk about what we would do in 'such and such' a case. If you are actually facing death you may find you don't have time to change your mind.