LizT

Also good function could purely be a result of excellent training and handling skills and have little to do with the breeding and form of the animal. There are many good show handlers out there who excel at hiding faults in their dogs by the use of their superior handling skills....while most good Judges worth their salt can see through this easily, not every Judge is a good Judge. Also there are many good trainers out there who will get more out of any given dog than some people ever could, just based on their ability and knowlege as dog trainers and handlers.

Without any form of justification or condonement and hopefuly not sounding racist...but I do believe there are some allowances made for the indiginous community when it comes to "hunting and eating their own food"???? But yeah....substance abuser...not surprising.

..an now she is breastfeeding the canine equivalent of a grown woman!!!????

Why does someone need to express milk for a dog in UK or Aus? They could go to the local vet if the dog needed help. Its not like they live in a tent in the middle of nowhere I doubt it would benefit another species anyway!

+1 "You looked...and now you can't unlook".

many dingo owners like to emphasise how "just like any other dog-ish" their dingo is, if they are so ordinarily dog like then why not just get a regular dog?? can't wait for the day that there is nothing left of novelty/rare/exotic marketting to been exploit just for novelty, the focus for breeders will then have to shift from novelty/rare to actual quality which would be too much of a jump for most; hmm whats left to exploit, we've done the LGD's,done dingoes, basenji's, NSD's, mountain XXX dogs, the completed program to remove all functional working traits from the working breeds by show breeders....be a brief period of staring at each other wondering which bandwagon next...ah just start making up a history, a good story and a standard and registry to tell the lie, Boerbell anyone. Sadly Orrd I don't think that will ever happen particuarly with clever marketing of new hybrids and importing of new breeds...the only saving grace is that people lose interest quickly and move on to the next new best thing, latest fashion etc...so then breed enthusiasts can get on with looking after the interests of their breed and heave a collective sigh of relief that the puppy farmers, marketers etc. have moved on.

What's really maddening is that the dog MUST HAVE been given both food and water on occassion as no mammal can survive that length of time without any water. It appears to have been fed just enough to prolong it's agony. RIP poor poor baby.

She says it "provides the dog with nutrition" ... uhmm, no it doesn't!!! Dog's don't need human milk for nutrition It's a chubby dog though, so it's not lacking in food. The poor dog looks like a freaking "Suckling pig"...Polynesian tribal women of old breastfed piglets to make them exceedingly fat for roasting.

I posted this in the Animal Cruelty and abuse section...which is where it belongs!

The bigger question is how does someone steal a dog from the vets? Hope they find her soon. Poor form indeed...how despicable! Hope they return the poor baby soon.

This does ring alarm bells for me, I have to say.. I have an 11 year old poodle x that we got (11 years ago) from an ad in the paper, and in hindsight all the signs of a puppy farm of very dodgy situation were there, but we didn't realise at the time. It was the same situation - the woman's "friend" was the one with the mum and this woman was just helping her while the actual owner was away. Got to the house, there was just one pup there, and we got her. She was supposedly a poodle x bichon, but there's just no way in hell.. Obviously now I wouldn't change her for the world and she's my little heart dog. But looking back, I'm sure she's from dodgy circumstances. I'm not saying that the person you called isn't the real deal, because god, how would I know. But just.. keep your wits about you and don't be fooled by a cute puppy! It takes a strong will to walk away from a cute puppy, as well all know, but make it a head decision, not a heart one :) I fell for EXACTLY the same deal when I bought a Poodle X Maltese for my mum 20 years ago that had been advertised in the Newspaper. In hindsight I wonder alot about the history of that puppy, where it had come from, whether it had been stolen etc. etc. as there were NO doggy things in the house at all. SHE was a tiny thing and didn't grow up to resemble either of those breeds....kind of a terrier mix. Live and learn!

All I can say is some people shouldn't be allowed to own dogs OR have children! http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/woman-breastfeeds-dog-to-feel-like-a-better-mom--9267.html

Male dingoes in some climates have seasonal reproduction, but that's not found in temperate areas. I've never heard that the male season affecting the female season, more likely both are affected by the time of year, or resources available (ie. whether they are starving or not). Dogs are root-rats, they'll quite happily mate with a dingo bitch and yes many many many pups have been born from these matings and roam our land! edit - pretty sure there was a study where they took dingoes from the NT (where the males should be seasonal) and kept them down south somewhere, and they became fertile all year round, then kept some in central Aus in captivity and they remained seasonal. So it's a climate thing. Yes. I'm also remembering that the dingo was used in the establishment and also re-invigoration of the Australian Cattle dog. The male affecting the female cycle could possible be unique to Basenjis. However, generally speaking I believe dingoes only come on heat annually like the Basenji.

And I suppose they are subject to this kind of treatment 24/7! :laugh: Sadly yes. Ring the ARSEPCA. I'll be waiting!!! :laugh: :laugh: We'd be going down together sister! ;)

I'm not sure but I don't think it is possible for a Dingo to cross breed with another dog...any more than it is for a Basenji to...I believe they have the same unique reproductive system as Basenjis where they need the male to come into season in order for teh female to cycle too. Anyone?

And I suppose they are subject to this kind of treatment 24/7! :laugh:

Found this, intersting. The dingo came to Australia via southern China, and much earlier than previously thought, says new research. The dingo (Canis lupus dingo) arrived possibly 18,000 years ago in Australia, via China. (Credit: Wikimedia) THE DINGO (Canis lupus dingo) first appeared in Australia's archaeological records in 3500-year-old rock paintings in the Pilbara region of WA, but the new evidence suggests they were roaming Australia long before that. DNA samples from domestic Asian dog species and the Australian dingo have shed light on how the iconic canine arrived on Australian soil. According to a study by an international research team, genetic data shows the dingo may have originated in southern China, travelling through mainland southeast Asia and Indonesia to reach its destination anywhere between 4600 and 18,300 years ago. Dingo theory debunked Published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B, the study also debunks the previously held belief dingoes travelled to Australia via Taiwan and the Philippines, making several sea crossings. "Clearly, the land route is much more feasible for dogs than the sea route," says Dr Alan Wilton, a geneticist from the University of NSW, Sydney, and one of the researchers involved in the study. The research also suggests the New Guinea singing dog, a smaller version of the dingo, travelled along the same land route to arrive in New Guinea. The geneticists took mitochondrial DNA samples from more than 900 domestic dogs across Asia - south China, southeast Asia, Indonesia, New Guinea, the Philippines and Taiwan - as well as pre-European samples from Polynesia and the Australian dingo, to make genetic comparisons. The results show domestic dogs came from southern China over 10,000 years ago. The most likely story, say the researchers, is that dingoes and New Guinea singing dogs then dispersed to their destinations via a separate route to the dogs that arrived with Polynesia's first people 3000 years ago. They also made the journey much earlier. Dingo from the Fraser Island population View Gallery Dingo enigma solved "This is huge for the dingo. This study really confirms an enigma which has been with us with dingos all the time: where did the animal come from, or more specifically, how did it get here?" says Lyn Watson, co-founder of the Dingo Discovery Sanctuary and Research Centre near Melbourne. "We never really bought the story that it came by boat." Dr Bret Heath, a biologist from Central Queensland University, says while the study doesn't fill all the gaps in our knowledge about how the dingo made it to Australia, the DNA evidence is compelling: "Mitochondrial DNA is most useful in studies of closely related organisms in low abundance, possibly adapting rapidly to new or different habitats - and hence displaying a rapid mutation rate." Dingo arrival sheds light on human evolution Perhaps the most important element of the study, says Bret, is the light that it sheds on the human origins of the Polynesian culture. Despite a sparse archaeological record for dog species in southeast Asia and Polynesia, there is a direct link between the spread of the Neolithic culture, Austronesian languages and the arrival of dogs in the region. But the researchers claim the dingo arrived in Australia before the Neolithic period, possibly during early trade between pre-Neolithic groups. "The dispersal of dogs is also linked to the human history of the region," they write, which may add to our knowledge about "the geographical origins of the Polynesian population and its Neolithic culture, and the extent of contact between the pre-Neolithic cultures of Australia with the surrounding world." They admit there is more work to be done to find out how the dingo was introduced to Australia, and whether it arrived as a domestic or wild dog. RELATED ARTICLES Dingoes skilled at reading human gestures Purebred dingoes face extinction in Australia GALLERY: dingoes Dingoes are smarter than your average dog On this day: Azaria Chamberlain taken by a dingo? PNG find prompts human migration rethink DNA reveals new route of Pacific migration ...More stories about dingoes

Yes I could never see a Cav being unsuitable for anyone :) They are such versatile, smart little dogs..up for anything...real pleasers.

This is just amazingly insane!!! But sadly believable! My friends have a GAP Greyhound that was sent back by the previous adoptive owners because "the dog could not return their affection"....I think the poor thing barely had time to settle in.....there was never a sweeter dog. To his benefit, he's lucky he is now with my friends.

Mine are on my couch! :laugh: We are on five acres, there is a high fenced off backyard area that the German Shepherd has access to and a fully fenced area in front of the house that has couch grass and less wear areas and mud that the Cavaliers play on.

I am a Cavalier Breeder, while there is NO MANDATORY health testing, my fellow breeders and I do annual Heart Checks with a Veterinarian Cardiologist and ACES EYE SCREENING with a Veterinary Opthalmologist. There was some talk of Mandatory testing within the Clubs but discussions fell through, as you can imagine it can get very political, personally I think self regulations is best as the Breeders who care and will do this as routine and as the General Public become more enlightened they will ask if you test and expect it.

Do you breed Tibetan Mastiffs?

Backyard breeders aren't a cohesive group who all think and do things the same way though. "BYBs" don't necessarily think there is lots of money made from breeding - some might, but others are just people who don't know what they're doing. Doesn't the number of individuals of a particular breed and type correlate wiht their popularity at any particular time? I imagine it's much like dog bite rates, with particular breeds being represented more when there are just more of that breed around. Many BYB's might find health issues come back and bite them in the bum too.

The fact is we get dogs to make US happy. We hope that what we do for them is to their liking or at least that they tolerate it well if it is for "their own good", as our responsibility we need to make the decisions regarding their welfare. Ultimately it still needs to be something that fits in with our lifestyle or no-one is 'happy'. I don't think anyone would agree that crating 24/7 is a good thing, unless in the case of a sick or injured animal, and I don't believe any DOLer does crate exclusively. I mean I won't even keep a Parrot unless it is hand trained, may as well have a pretty statue than a caged animal. So we are all in agreement, crating is fine when not abused and overused. So what exactly was this thread about...critising the animal husbandry practises of people who crate 24/7 when it's unlikely they will EVER read this thread.

Seeing my breed in the pound is heartbreaking and most state CKCS clubs do have a Cavalier Rescue regardless of who bred the dog or where it came from. Sometimes the popularity of a breed can be do it's detriment. I'm encouraged though by the lovely inquiries I get from puppy buyers who only want to buy from a Registered Breeder who health tests etc. Many have been looking and waiting ofr some time. I try to ensure they understand the shortcomings of the Breed and it's health issues whether they are buying a pup from me or not. I also make sure there is no doubt in the puppy buyers mind that, IF FOR ANY reason they are unable to keep the dog they place it with me to re-home. However, by the time I am finished screening my buyers if they are to get a dog from me I am happily confident that puppy has a good home for life. Sadly, not all breeders (Registered, BYB, large scale commercial) of popular breeds (and yes, even popular 'DD' cross breeds), are willing and able to ensure this to their satifaction. I'm sure difficult emconomic times certainly can contribute to the surrendering of dogs, but really Cavaliers do not eat much at all, and most are sadly well andtruly overfed. Also, sometimes sadly, small popular breeds can belong to the elderly and if for some reason they have no-one and are unable to continue to care for their dogs, they could well end up in a Pound.