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I know - they used to be really strong, healthy dogs! Thank Dog, in 30 years of owning Standards I've never seen a case in any of mine - they all go back to old-fashioned New Zealand & English lines. Well, that's good news Poodlemum. And thanks for the info on the good old lines. To be honest I have no idea about the origin of my girls' lines. When I purchased her I had no interest in showing or lineage etc, I was more into obedience and agility at the time, and Rose was my first and last Standard. Different now, I am moe into Pedigrees, but not into Standards as such. Rose's prefix is Fenelton, and I don't know anything about her Pedigree. But it is not an issue, as she has never had any real problems as such, no serious genetic ones anyway. All good. ;) sorry to stray OT.

Perhaps little puppy has responded well to the few tips and suggestions lovely helpful posters gave jass. Let's hope so. Get well soon little pup

Hey, also what about Standard Poodles. I have one, but have never really been into the breed much, so I don't really know.... do they commonly suffer with HD. I would have thought not??? But I could be very wrong??? Sorry Poodlemum, missed your post. That's a damned shame isn't it?! My 11 year old, though I have never had her xrayed, has never had any dramas in that area

Snap, was about to say the very same thing.

Hi Jass, what did you decide? I don't even mind if it takes an extra day or so pay me back. Waiting to hear back from you. Of course you are under no obligation to accept any of our offers, but they are genuine and we are happy to help. We know how concerned you are for your puppy, and so are we.

Excellent luffy. We are still waiting to hear back. Jass is probably still trying the ring around to see if anything is open and checking with AEC on whether or not they feel it is an emergency. Now we have transport and payment, so that is fantastic.

No worries guys, but not doing it to be popular... the way I see it, let's face it there are probably plenty of us here that have been in a similar position, maybe when we were much younger and less knowledgable. It is easy to be judgemental when we have wisdom, but it is counter productive, and not a nice way to be. It's just my turn to help someone today. We would all love to see this puppy treated as soon as possible and get well. We are here cause we love dogs. I also hope Jass takes up my offer. I don't pay fees on my credit card, so it might as well be used by someone that could use the help.

The AEC Frankston is open now and until 9am tomorrow morning. But they require money upfront, which I don't have until tomorrow morning. She's no worse than what she was yesterday, its just the other eye is starting to look puffy and weepy. I've worked out the finances and will pay the full vet bill tomorrow, if there was a vet open today that would let me pay tomorrow I'd take her right now. Jass, if you are happy and willing to take your little pup down to Frankston AEC now, (if you cannot find anywhere else open) and you are willing to pay the sorts of fees that they may charge (keeping in mind that we have no idea exactly what is wrong with the pup at this stage), I will call my credit card details through to them for you and pay upfront, if you can pay me back tomorrow. I have spent thousamds there, so I am a known clint of theirs. Please let me know if you want to take up my offer and we can exchange details via PM. I'll call them and see if they think its an emergency, thank you for the offer. I'll let you know. OK, will wait to hear back from you. also I have already phoned them to clear it with them, all good.

The AEC Frankston is open now and until 9am tomorrow morning. But they require money upfront, which I don't have until tomorrow morning. She's no worse than what she was yesterday, its just the other eye is starting to look puffy and weepy. I've worked out the finances and will pay the full vet bill tomorrow, if there was a vet open today that would let me pay tomorrow I'd take her right now. Jass, if you are happy and willing to take your little pup down to Frankston AEC now, (if you cannot find anywhere else open) and you are willing to pay the sorts of fees that they may charge (keeping in mind that we have no idea exactly what is wrong with the pup at this stage), I will call my credit card details through to them for you and pay upfront, if you can pay me back tomorrow. I have spent thousands there, so I am a known client of theirs. Please let me know if you want to take up my offer and we can exchange details via PM.

The AEC Frankston is open now and until 9am tomorrow morning.

That's terrible Miss B, how fristrating for you. I apologise if this sounds a bit harsh, (and this is not directed at anyone here) but I have always been of the belief that people that are continuously late or even occasionally late are arrogant and lack respect for others... not necessarily consciously. I think it is just plain rude. Of course there are emergencies etc, and a quick phone call can sort that out. Admittedly I am probably annoyingly the other way. I always arrive to any appointment at least 10 minutes early. I could not stand to make anyone have to wait for me, especially someone like a vet. I cannot imagine forgetting any appointment let alone a vet. If you diarise things, be organised, it doesn't happen. Off my soap box now.

Checking in to see how Grover is doing. I guess at this stage - no news is good news.

I am definitely an appointment type of person, but then I am anally organised I also loathe to wait. I always try to make my appintments first cab off the rank, amd will wait an extra day or 2 to do so, if there is no urgency of course. As you say obviously for emergencies it is totally different, but even for semi urgent, my vet will squeeze me in pretty quickly if it is something that I cannot wait for, and I am sure most vets would be the same. I definitely think appointments are the way to go. and I think it is great that you are asking for opinions. Best of luck with the clinic. Sounds like a ripper.

Glad to hear there is improvement. Keep fighting Grover.

Terribly news Trish and Steve. With all my heart I hope Grover pulls through. Sending much love and heeling thoughts. XXX

Our large breeds adults have 1 2x2 (half size of the 2x4 Box 1) every morning as their breakfast. I predominantly feed once per day, but like them to have a small something in their tummy in the morning. Cheap, easy, they enjoy it, hard to crunch and after using these for about 7 years, my dogs have never had any adverse affects. They enjoy their morning bickie, sort of a ritual at our place. Mind you it is gone within seconds

Sorry, I'm not sure of survival rates. I've not had a lot of experience with it - only a handful of cases. The latest case we saw seems to be going well. Unfortunately some dogs just don't cope well with the medications (they are pretty hardcore doses), and some go into renal failure as a result of the deposition of immune related complexes in the filter parts of the kidneys, causing damage. With regards to specialists, we don't believe they immediately should need a specialist but would vary case by case. The main thing is to be sure the diagnosis is 100% correct and then the treatment is generally the same. We have reffered cases that were a little unusual that still turned out to be IMPA, but were still treated the same way we would have here. I think if your friend is happy with her vet and things are going ok, there would be no need to go to a specialist necessarily. With most cases like this, we regularly consult with out local specialists who have been more than happy to give us all the info they can over the phone and share their knowledge, but yeah, if the animal wasn't responding to treatment we would refer. Thanks stormie. Once again, I will pass all this on to her. Much appreciate your time.

Thank you Danois. I actually remember you mentioning Angs in the recent thread of bokezu's about IMT. Such a sad story Danois, I am sorry you had to go through all this. You may also remember from back in that thread how I was telling of how my Dyzney survived IMT. well this rotti boy I was mentioning here is dyzney's full litter brother, so not good. I will pass on your very helpful info to my friend, and I am sure she will chase it up. Many Thanks and hugs to you.

Zali Lane, I apologise for hijacking your thread. I am very sorry to hear about your friend's Bull Mastiff. I hope she finds some answers and works put what she is going to do. I also have just had a friend who's male Rottweiler of 6.5 years has just recently been diagnosed with AIPA. Although I am reasonable familiar with other Immune Mediated diseases, this is one I have had to deal with, so know very little about it. Thank you for the info stormie, I respect your advice and opinion. stormie, what are your experiences/knowledge regarding survival rate percentages. and also would my friend be better served taking her boy to a specialist as opposed to her local vet? You mentioned specialist, and I have also tried to send her down this path, but at this stage she feels happy with whom she is seeing. Can anyone else here add any more information they have regarding this disease or any anecdotal stories that I may be able to pass on to my friend please? I have already done some research on the computer, but more personal stories would really help here I think. My friend is really worried, which is understandable. In advance I much appreciate your time.

Oh DW, I am so sorry to hear that Diesel has finally left you. Such a beautiful boy. RIP Diesel. Run pain free as you are supposed to, with the all the doggies in puppy heaven. He knows you loved him very much. :rolleyes:

Now, you've got me started again We always do these little rituals and things to help us feel closer to our lost loved ones. When Ruby passed away I kept touching and rubbing all her things. You just want them to come back so much, it aches. I remember just laying in bed crying and sleeping for 2 days. OH was so worried about me, he didn't know what to do. Everytime I woke up I would start crying again, and he said I was often sobbing and heaving in my sleep. I just did not have the strength or bother to get up. OH put Dyzney up on the bed in desperation, and it did help. We hugged for hrs and I cried some more, and then eventually I got up to get her a treat. I clung to Dyzney for days in efforts to get some normality back into my life. She really helped me at that time. Of course OH was fantastic too. He knew how much Ruby meant to me. The only good that I can think of that has come out of Ruby passing, was my relationship with Dyzney becoming so strong. and that is why, (as you can imagine) my shock and horror when the vets told me she had IMT also 2 years later. Danois, that is sad, but sweet. You must miss your boy terribly.

It will take a long time before you can go a day without tears Boke. What you are doing is coping, though it may not seem like it. It is amazing how we cope cause we have to, but it is so difficult when you have lost someone as precious as your little man Jordy. I still think about you each day and what you and Kevin are going through. Hugs to you, Dyz :rolleyes:

Good on ya dogdude. Yes, next year will be the one. You know, I always feel like I never spend a heck of a lot of time training, not nearly as much as I would like to, but it is all about quality training, not quantity... only perfect practice makes perfect. :D Go Oscar. I need one more CCD pass, and hope to have Dyzney's novice title also next year, and be woprking on Open, so we will see how we go. with training and showing Jag at the same time it is always a bit of a juggle. I would also love to be starting trialling Jag next year too, but we will just have to wait and see.

This is the wat i have trained my other dog Oscar, and I am about to make changes to it again. I don't like the fact that he needs to be swtched on by showing the reward. I feel I need to strengthen drive further, and get it to a stage where I dont have to show him that I have it in my posession, and is totally swiched on by command only. I feel that you can only achieve this with a very driven dog. That's great dogdude. I found with dyzney that she actually showd me herself that was ready to go to that level, before I thought she was ready. I verbalised her drive switch, then before I needed to show her the motivator, she was leaning towards heading to the park, 3 doors away, so I let her trot me there, do the work, then trot me home to the fridge. This is a 6.5 year old rotti that had almost absolutely no drive at all until I started training her in drive approx 12 months ago. Still then, I felt we were not achieving anything. she still did not seem to switch into drive at all, and when she did she was put off extremely easily. I could not get her to any work in drive at all. Anyway, I sort of gave up on her basically (as I had previously semi retired her anyway having already achieved 6 titles in other disciplines, had a litter of puppies and had just recoverd from a serious bout of IMT) and as I got a new pup and have spent the last 12 months training and worming on him. Anyway, all my rotti friends were telling me to enter Dyzney into our restricted obedience trail, so I did. Well, she became lame as soon as I entered her (bruised toe) and that took her 3 weeks to get over, so in the last week leading up to the trial, we had done very little training, and I felt it was going to be a joke. She worked reasonably well in most areas except my nemesis.... heeling. I always had lack lustre heeling dogs, and that is why I decided to start doing the drive training with Steve Courtney from K9Force. Anyway, 2 days out from the trial, I decided to give the remote reward another try, we had tried it previously, but she didn't get it, and didn't really care much, was still looking for food during training. So, this time I used a chicken wing instead. Well, that is what did it. She cottoned on straight away, and as she is a big pig and easily driven with food (but I still would not call her a highly driven dog) it worked. So basically what I described in my previous post regarding the remote was all done in 2 days, and that was 2 trials ago and 4 weeks ago. I have even used a chicken frame also. Dyzney will work beautifully and stay in drive, if the reward is good enough. The only thing I found was in her first test she forged a little, and that was her anticipation to get the remote, but we have fixed that with toning down the drive switching before we go into the ring. I am thrilled I have finally found my dog's button. It is great to be back into obedience, and it has taught me a lot. I have Steve to thank for my recent new obedience joy and CCD passes.

I don't see how that changes anything, if the dog is working well in drive distractions won't make much difference. absolutely, what huski says, if your dog is trained and working in drive, then distractions are not an issue.