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paganman - thanks, I did notice that it was a franchise on their website and after talking to both companies I'm leaning more toward all sorts, the lady seemed much more interested (and more rerasonably priced too) OH wants to concentrate on using the TOT and cementing the pack structure to see if that solves anything as we have a feeling we have upset the balance when needing to crate and feed the dogs seperately while they were recovering, before forking out too many $$$$ we have had a few vet bills in the past two weeks and our back pocket needs a little time to recover, so we have look at getting her to come in Feb.

Thanks for all the info! I think I've got the whole concept of the clicker- it's basically to reward more instantaneously??? Is that right - that'll teach me for skim reading and then posting stupid questions - sorry. But getting the feeling that clickers are a good investment? Teahing leads - again from this book which is UK based. This is the info from the patent A dog leash teaching lead is used to teach a dog to behave in the house and outside. At its outer end (distal end) the leash has a fastener clip which attaches the leash to the dog's collar. A station hole, about 3-7 inches from the fastener clip, is used to attach the dog to a post or other object. A series of from 3 to 7 waist holes, near the proximal end (the owner's hand) are used to attach the dog to its owner or the owner's family members. An end fastener clip, at the proximal end, may be connected, alternatively, to the station hole or one of the waist holes or a ring held by the leash. Have found a link here - not sure if links are allowed??? Pls let me know and I will take it down http://www.fetchdog.com/learn-connect/dog-...0/I/AR000010443

OK, have been reading up a treat on dog training as we really want to have a pair of well trained pooches so what are you opinions on some of these "training" aides, Are they useful, worth buying or completely pointless. Clicker and clicker training - I can see this would be much easier(and healthier) than having a pocket full of treats but is it useful - anyone tried it have opinions teaching lead - seems to have multiple uses that I can see would be handy but are they worth bothering with - are they even available to buy readily? That's all I've come up with so far - if you have an suggestions for excellent training aides that you couldn't live without, I would love to hear about them Thanks

Thanks Cosmolo - We are in Townsville, Nth QLD. There are two main ones Bark busters and All sorts dog training and one private and the kennel club but the kennel club seems more of a obedience class rather than to deal with individual problems. Would love to hear any feedback on these !

We did consult with quite a few different people including our vet before going ahead and decided that due to their complementry natures and the amount of time and effort we were prepared for that it would be something we were going to go for. Yes we did consider at the time the fact that we would have to rehome one if dominence/aggression became a problem but I would rather try solutions to fix/downgrade the problem rather than give up a great pup. Spo I guess I'm really looking for suggestions/ideas to help "train" them not to be aggressive with each other - does that make sense. I am looking into dog trainers but not having a huge amount of luck today, think everyone might still be on holidays

OMG - having the same problem here, we have ours behind the baby gate now with steps for the kitten to get over the gate :-) And they used to snaffle her food too so that's behinds the gate as well. I like the idea of the plastic storage box! Or a friend suggested we get one of those trainers to train the cat to use the toilet?

Poodlefan - thanks so much for your advice. Yes they have both just been desexed recently and yes they both have quite a bit of time alone, they are crated seperately and quite often one will be inside while the other is outside. We also spend time training them together as well as apart and at the moment they are being walked alone as we are still training them on the lead and quite often we take turns taking them out for drives and socialisation. I don't think there is any established dominence at the moment and most of the time they seem very comfortable with each other 90% of the time they are playing well together, it's only when it escalates that it concerns me. I will seek out a trainer to see if they have any advice for quieting down/ reducing the play fights so much Thanks again Sarah

Are you planning on crate training? If so could you (or a neighbore) pop in every couple of hours and let your little girl out to the toilet and put her back in. Our pups stayed in their crates for up to 3-4 hrs as young pups without an accident and now they can hold on all night. During the day they just take themselves out but recently we had to crate Hoover as he hurt his leg and he was happy to stay in there for up to 6-8 hrs without needing a toilet break (16wks) This would alos solve the toileting issue as she would just go outside all the time.

Although not the done thing I know we bought home two male goldens from the same litter and they have been absolutely fantastic. We have been working with them seperately and together and although they have a great bond with each other they are also part of the family and enjoy spending time apart. However some recent problems are arising. play fighting - they have always tossled and tumbled but the teeth are getting sharper and the play fights "seem" to be more aggressive. There is rarely any teeth barring (and if there is, it is quite quickly scolded) usually a result of too hard a bite. But the fights are more persistant and there is a lot of shaking and dragging going on. Also hoover hurt his leg mysteriously 12 days ago, quite a deep gash that required stitching and a drain and we are hoping it was not result of a puppy fight but have found no other explanation. Needless to say we are watching them all the time at the moment. Currently we won't allow the to fight in the house and any tossles are told "no" and they are seperated if it continues however makes the first move goes outside or into a crate or the both go into their crates. Any advice, ideas or help would be greatly appreciated Aggression over food - probably stemming from this problem both pups have developed a bit of territory aggression around food, particulary there chew bones/dental bones. As hoover had stitches in his leg and a drain they were seperated for the best part of 8 days whereas before they were always fed together. We also started giving them both chew bones as Hoover had to spend a lot of time in his crate recovering and the chew bones gave hm something to do. Today I gave them a bone and there was a lot of teeth barring and snapping going on. Dyson immediately backed off and was very wary and I told hoover off and handled the bone myself and touched his face etc while he was eating. Any other ideas to repress this new found aggression Thanks

My babies Name: Hoover Sex: Male Date of birth: 30th September 2008 Age: 4 months Colour: blonde Breed: Golden retriever x husky Loves: playing with his brother, playing with the cat, water, water, water and sleeping inside Hates: the fact that the kids toys are not his chew toys Name: Dyson Sex: Male Date of birth: 30th September 2008 Age: 4 months Colour: blonde Breed: Golden retriever x husky Loves: playing with his brother, playing with the cat, cuddles and sleeping inside Hates: being left alone or being left out, when the cat can reach high places he can't