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The second one is the best, the first one looks as if Neko's eyes are so bugged out that I expected little bits of poo flying out behind her :laugh:

Can someone please please put in the schedule for the dog judging at the Ekka? I went to the site and can't find it. I did find this but not really helpful https://www.ekka.com.au/animals/dogs/ I have a free ticket and would like to go on the Westie day Found it...the Westies are on Monday 10th August Here is the schedule https://www.ekka.com.au/media/1303/2015_canine_schedule_final.pdf The Wheaten's and Kerry Blue's are also on Monday, Sheridan should go and see them (they are probably house-trained :D)

Keeping my arms and legs crossed that the new meds help WM. Hang in there Li'l Fella

Hi Susie, you may not have read the forum rules, they are at the top of the 'Forums' page here #9 refers to your post 'No topics expressing dismay at the latest dogs you saw in a pet shop or advertised in the paper or another web site'. We all know this happens and most of the discussion seem to go round and round then turns into a train wreck Just keep pointing the owners in the right direction...at least you may save some dogs that way. B.

I saved the photo and it was right-side-up on my desktop but when I put it here it fell over again. So I screen-shot it instead here ya go hehehe, Mac looks like he is just going to give us a wink. Love his jumper

So sorry T .

hahaha, he has his jammies on ❤ he will need them tonight to keep warm and snggly with this coming

what Ness said ^^^^

Whew, what a relief. Hang in there Li'l fella Perhaps you and Mac will get a better sleep tonight WM

How is Mac (and you also) this morning WM?

There is an old topic here--> http://www.dolforums...e-side-effects/ perhaps not much help though

This from 'Independent Australia' https://independenta...supporters,7946 I have not included the full article Desperate measures from puppy factories and their lobbyists Peter Wicks 15 July 2015, 6:00pm AnimalsCrime PIAA can't guarantee your puppy doesn't come from here (Image via Oscars Law) It's panic stations at pet stores and their associations, as the public outrage over cruel puppy factories increases all the time. Peter Wicks from Wixxyleaks reports. A couple of weeks ago, I published an article on how the Pet Industry Association of Australia (PIAA) had thrown one of their members under the bus and made them a scapegoat for the public backlash after the exposure of puppy factories recently. Last week, I spoke to Rose Wilson, one of the owners of Mt Lawley Pets and Puppies after she had crawled out from beneath the wheel of the bus that the PIAA had thrown her under. Despite having had a week I'm sure she would have rather forgotten, she had some interesting things to say regarding PIAA and the way in which this matter has been handled. At the time I spoke with Rose, PIAA had not long put up a public statement that said, in part, that Mt Lawley Pets and Puppies were no longer registered with PIAA as their membership has been cancelled. Later that same day, I received a call from Rose asking me if I would please not publish anything from our conversation, even though it had been "on the record" at the time. Rose claimed the reason for this was that they had been in discussions with PIAA and if they ceased purchasing from the puppy factory in question, they may once again be PIAA endorsed. The next day, PIAA made yet another public statement on their Facebook page, once again confirming that Mt Lawley Pets and Puppies were no longer to be endorsed by PIAA or members of the Association, as well as stating that they could in no way stand by their own guarantee that none of their retailers sell animals from puppy farms — a guarantee that has now been removed from PIAA's website. The information Rose asked me not to publish has since been made public via social media through her statements. The events of these two days has left me wondering if PIAA were the first association in history to suffer from multiple personality disorder. The real shopfront: The NSW puppy factory where Mt Lawley Pets and Puppies sourced stock (Image via Oscars Law) Rose informed me that PIAA had, only months earlier, offered her the role of being the association's Western Australian representative and spokesperson. While being honored, Rose knocked the role back to concentrate on running her own business. Now, the association who sought her services has dumped her like a bad habit and is making her the fall guy for and industry body that is clearly in crisis. Rose however has now some new friends taking up the fight on her behalf. Pets Australia are keen to pick up the membership fees for the retailer now that PIAA has deserted them. However, it's fair to say that the approach of Pets Australia has been less than admirable and is, in my view, indicative of both the morality and integrity of the organization. Pets Australia are yet another industry lobby group that compete with PIAA for membership funds of retailers and those within the pet industry. Pets Australia is run by a woman by the name of Jo Sillince, who was formerly a President of PIAA, but was allegedly removed in a cloud of controversy and disgrace. This week, Pets Australia released their newsletter, which made some pretty startling claims regarding the goings on at the Mt Lawley Pet Store. Pets Australia's newsletter expanded on earlier reports regarding allegations of the assault of an employee of the pet store. The allegations were made by Chris, who it turns out was none other than the owner Rose's son, someone with whom I was corresponding via email. When, after several emails, he finally brought up the allegation, I asked him if he had any evidence: any photo's of injuries, a copy of a police statement, or even an incident number? I never received a response and so I assumed his silence spoke in volumes as that was the story that was being desperately pushed out by the store. Keen to pick up a new paying member, Pets Australia, in their newsletter, have gone even further as this section shows: Heaps of fines and an assault charge laid on activists? I thought that it may be worth actually checking this claim for myself with someone in authority and so I contacted WA Police. The view of WA Police could not have been more contradictory, with a spokesperson for WA Police stating: "No charges have been laid and WA Police do not fine people for this type of incident." So, this was, allegedly, an outright lie by Pets Australia. Some may also be wondering about the "AAPDB Hero" mentioned by Pets Australia, who apparently emerged from the crowd to kindly enlighten the police in attendance about the law, just like Moses coming down from the mountain with the 10 commandments. The arrogance to try to imply that some mysterious person appeared through the mist and explained the law to police who, in gratitude for this new-found wisdom, handed out fines like confetti and laid one assault charge — apparently on multiple activists (how does that work?) So, who is this ghost who walks and who are the AAPDB? Alas, like a fart in the breeze, our mysterious anti-hero has disappeared back to whatever hole he crawled out from. And the AAPDB? They are the Australian Association Of Pet Dog Breeders. While that may sound reasonable and legitimate, it is worth noting that, despite the long name, there is one word missing and that would be "Registered". The reason that word is missing from the title is because registered and reputable breeders have their own organization that looks after their interests. The AAPDB are, in fact, an organization that represents puppy factories exclusively. An organisation that seeks to help what many describe as the often tax-dodging factory breeding enterprises that profit from industrial scale animal cruelty. The AAPDB are headed up by puppy farm owner and operator Jodie Knox, who took over from founder Kate Schoeffel after she was forced to step down after her puppy farm and animal cruelty on her were exposed. Vet Dr Kate Schoeffel outed as a Puppy Farmer So why all this sudden desperation from these fringe pet organisations? This week, evidence is being given to the NSW Parliamentary inquiry into puppy factories by various stakeholders, and it is clear that organisations such as AAPDB, Pets Australia and PIAA are more than a touch worried. Indeed, PIAA is showing their desperation and "confidence" in new CEO Mark Fraser by hiring lobby firm Newgate. Newgate are an agency that represents several large property developers, so no doubt PIAA will be hoping that may have some pull with a Liberal government, given the close relationship seen between the Coalition and property developers via Independent Commission Against Corruption in recent times. Representing themselves with just just facts and evidence will be the side of public interest and decency. This side will have various organisations in its corner, such as Dogs NSW, Voiceless, the RSPCA and of course Oscars's Law. It is primarily due to the efforts of Oscar's Law that efforts are being made to address this issue in NSW, and it is these tireless efforts that have also largely led to changes to legislation and codes of practice in Victoria, that are in the process of being legislated or implemented. The Labor Government in Victoria are making huge inroads in this fight against an inhumane industry, with Agriculture Minister Jaala Pulford doing some truly remarkable work.

Nightmare over for dog owners as council rules out appeal http://www.gympietim...rules-/2705536/ 15th Jul 2015 5:00 AM THE nightmare is over for Denmark Hill's Thomas family with council accepting the umpire's decision to release their dog Bruce. In a turnaround to comments made to the QT on Monday, Ipswich City Council Community Safety Committee chairman Andrew Antoniolli yesterday dismissed appealing a Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal (QCAT) ruling to overturn a destruction order on the dog. Cr Antoniolli said the ruling did not present any dangerous precedent in relation to future attacks and incidents. "Therefore council has decided not to pursue any appeal in relation to the outcome of this matter and accepts the QCAT ruling," Cr Antoniolli said. "The ruling outlined a number of unique circumstances in this matter and council is confident none will impact on our continued efforts to act in relation to dangerous dogs." In overturning the destruction order, the QCAT panel noted that "Bruce had been managed in a way consistent with community expectations for keeping dangerous dogs". "It is not a situation where the Thomas' failed to keep Bruce enclosed," the panel ruled. "He did not leave his enclosure and attack a person in the street. Bruce bit a person who entered the area in which he was enclosed, in disregard of extensive signage, prior warning, and internally fenced areas." "There is no suggestion since the dangerous dog declaration that Bruce has at any time escaped the area in which he has been enclosed, thereby posing a risk to community health and safety." Kev and Chris Thomas have been reunited with their dog, Bruce. Photo: Rob Williams / The Queensland Times Rob Williams

I am so sorry swazzie, awful outcome.

an interesting chat from the Tasmanian Government http://dpipwe.tas.go...als/1080-poison Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment Agriculture 1080 Poison Compound 1080 or sodium monofluoroacetate, is a naturally occurring compound produced by many species of Australian plant. Sodium monofluoroacetate occurs naturally in about 40 native plant species in Australia, primarily of the genera, Gastralobium, which grow in Western Australia, across northern Australia in the Northern Territory and in central Queensland. No fluoroacetate bearing plants are known to occur in Tasmania or the other southern States. Compound 1080 is a white fluffy powder that is odourless and tasteless. 1080 was first synthesised in Europe in 1896 and developed in the USA as a rodenticide during the 1940s. It was first used as a rabbit poison in Tasmania in 1952. It is now widely used in Australia and New Zealand to control pest animals. How it is used The Department of Primary Industries and Water is the only importer of 1080 into Tasmania and only authorised officers of the Department handle the poison. The powder is dissolved in water to make a 1.5 per cent solution. This is coloured blue to give it a distinctive appearance to avoid accidental misuse and to reduce its acceptability to birds.In the field, it is mixed with bait material, usually chopped carrot, to provide a final concentration of 0.014 per cent of the active ingredient. Wild animals such as wallabies and possums may only be poisoned where officially permitted by the Wildlife Management officers of the Department of Primary Industries and Water. Such permits will only be issued if poisoning is an essential element of their wildlife management program. Species Susceptibility The relative toxicity of 1080 to various animals is shown in table 1. Dogs and cats are highly susceptible. Next are all herbivores. Rats, wombats and humans are less susceptible, while quolls, Tasmanian devils and nearly all birds have a high tolerance to 1080 poison. Table 1: Relative susceptibility of various animals to 1080 poison Secondary poisoning As can be seen from Table 1, dogs and cats are very susceptible to 1080 poisoning so every precaution should be taken to prevent dogs from eating poisoned carcases. If a dog or cat ate a pademelon poisoned with 1080, it could obtain a lethal dose of the poison. In fact, one dead pademelon could contain enough 1080 to poison 12 dogs or 9 cats. Other carnivorous animals and birds are not likely to be killed by secondary poisoning as they would need to eat their own weight in poisoned rabbits to obtain a lethal dose (see Table 2). Table 2: Amounts of poisoned Pademelon likely to be fatal to various carnivores Actually the poison is present in larger concentrations in the stomach and some other organs such as liver, heart, lung, kidneys and brain. Carnivores which show a liking for these organs therefore have an increased susceptibility to secondary poisoning. Symptoms There is some debate about the humaneness of 1080. However, this is less so in respect of its effect on herbivores, including target species such as rabbits and wallabies. Herbivores typically show no obvious signs of poisoning until their sudden collapse. Some herbivorous animals experience convulsions, others simply lie still, breathing slowly, until death occurs. Death in herbivores is typically the result of ventricular fibrillation (heart irregularities). Symptoms of nervous distress are seen in dogs, cats, and man, but from reports from men who have recovered, no pain is felt. Rabbits and wallabies usually die several hours after eating the bait and so die some distance from the burrow. The number of dead animals found near the burrow therefore cannot be used to assess the efficiency of the poisoning program. Effect on the Environment In use, 1080 does not accumulate in the environment. It is applied locally at relatively small rates and is readily degraded in soils, surface waters and by micro-organisms. The usual fate of 1080 in baits is to be consumed by the target pests in the days or weeks following baiting. Most of the 1080 ingested by animals is rapidly metabolised and/or excreted, with only low levels retained in the carcass. Poisoning of non-target animals may occur with 1080 baiting. However, the impacts are either localised, or limited to individual animals and do not result in significant adverse effects on the non-target animals at a population level. Careful attention to the selection of bait material, amount of 1080 in each bait, timing and placement of baits combined with preliminary free feeding to reduce bait shyness, increases the acceptance of poisoned baits by target animals. Comparison with other Poisons Strychnine is the main legal alternative poison used in vertebrate pest control in Australia, although its use is restricted in Tasmania. It is inferior to 1080 because: It is less humane, causing a violent death with convulsions and pain. The onset of symptoms is quick but death may not occur for 2 hours or more. It is less specific; all species of animals and birds are susceptible. It produces a violent death near the burrow, disturbing other rabbits so that fewer rabbits are killed. It has a bitter taste, is not water soluble and is more difficult to use. It is more dangerous. A child would be readily killed by one piece of apple poisoned with strychnine, but would need to eat at least 15 pieces of carrot poisoned with 1080. It is not broken down on the bait or in the soil. Other poisons, such as organophosphates, may not be used legally for vertebrate pest control. These poisons are totally non-selective and their use could threaten the survival of some species, particularly predator birds such as hawks and eagles. Pindone is used for rabbit control in areas where there is an increased risk of secondary poisoning of dogs. It is an anticoagulant, and there is an antidote available, but native carnivores and birds of prey may be at greater risk from eating poisoned carcasses. Summary Compound 1080 is the most effective vertebrate pest poison currently available. It is relatively species-specific, it is relatively humane in terms of its effects on herbivores and it is biodegradable. There is a definite risk of accidental poisoning of sheep, cattle, goats, horses and pigs, so every care must be taken to keep stock away from a poisoned area until all uneaten poisoned bait is removed. There is a high risk of secondary poisoning if dogs eat poisoned rabbits or wallabies. Poisoned animals are not found near the burrow so a count of carcases cannot be used to assess the effectiveness of the control operation. All 1080 poison operations in Tasmania are performed under the supervision of DPIPWE Wildlife Management officers. These officers ensure that the operation is carried out according to the Code of Practice for Use of 1080 Poison for Native Browsing Animal Control. This page was created by the Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment (Tasmania). edited to insert screen shots of charts

Wow, not bad going Sheridan, to have managed to do that in four weeks is pretty impressive. Well Done! ps I bet they wee on the floor today just to spoil all the good work :laugh:

I was dreading coming to your topic for an update swazzie so I'm +++relieved that you have encouraging news. I'll be thinking of you and Bru on Monday, can I ask without being awfully nosy...what time is your appointment? I'm sure we would all like to know when to expect another update. All the best from me and the Little-guys

some of these may be cheaper than Bunnings, maybe they will sell 1 metre http://www.gumtree.c...?sort=price_asc eta there is this on ebay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Artificial-turf-Free-Postage-30mm-fake-grass-astro-turf-synthetic-turf-pool-/231617865649?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item35ed8027b1

Just a thought: can you give a little more of the chicken/beef mince at night and give the Advance for day-time feeds only. My lot are not thirsty afterwards or in the morning at all as they don't get dry at dinner-time BUT if I do run out of their raw and they get dry (even with a topping of vegie slops) they are thirsty after and in the morning also eta found this old photo of Mac after he was helping gardening...a wannabe Wheaten!

pup photies green with envy here love this one of Roo it's his "I definitely didn't pee on the floor" look Lovely pups Sheridan, thanks for posting those piccies

You do realise they will continue pee-ing inside until you have posted photos of them.

http://www.theguardi...ection-victoria Pets of family violence victims to be offered protection in Victoria $100,000 earmarked for pet protection programs after studies show victims may delay leaving an abusive relationship out of fear of what will happen to their pets A UK study found perpetrators of violence usually harm those physically weaker than themselves and as a result 'abuse of animals occurs frequently in conjunction with human abuse'. Photograph: PR Melissa Davey The pets of women and children fleeing family violence will be offered protection as part of a program funded by the Victorian government. Numerous reviews have shown that perpetrators of family violence use threats and harm to pets as a way of maintaining control of their victims, and that victims may delay leaving an abusive relationship out of fear of what will happen to their pets. Over the next four years, $100,000 will be given to the family violence response service, Safe Steps, to build relationships with animal welfare agencies such as the RCPCA and family violence services, the state government announced on Sunday. Victoria's minister for families and children, Jenny Mikakos, said the funding would give people in violent situations greater confidence to seek safety. "This small program will make a huge difference in helping victims leave violent situations and get support," she said. Kim Gentle is a survivor of family violence who now lives in Port Hedland. Her perpetrator is now in jail, having physically, financially and emotionally abused Gentle. He also killed her dog. "He threw her off a cliff," Gentle told Guardian Australia. "He thought I paid more attention to my dog than to him, and that I had more love for her than I did for him. He was jealous. I rescued that dog from the RSPCA and she came everywhere with me. These perpetrators will take anything precious to you." Gentle believes pet protection programs for family violence victims should be rolled out across the country. Advertisement"Pets have incredible healing powers, especially for children, and that is well documented," she said. "I can only applaud Victoria for this program and I hope it follows through everywhere." In its submission to Victoria's royal commission into family violence, the RSPCA said while some animal shelters provided ad hoc welfare boarding for the pets of people fleeing family violence, they were poorly funded. "Funding for welfare boarding is unreliable and often limited," the submission said. "Welfare boarding is only provided by animal shelters when they have the capacity to do so. Local governments should have a responsibility to provide welfare boarding for animals and this should not be a responsibility of charities. A government supported system is required." The CEO of RSPCA Victoria, Dr Liz Walker, said the government's funding announcement on Sunday was "encouraging". "We look forward to being part of the development of a broader strategy to address the temporary sheltering and care of animals across the state," she said. A 2012 report provided to the Royal New Zealand Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and the National Collective of Independent Women's Refuges in New Zealand found cruelty to pets was most commonly reported as a form of punishment. "Cruelty involved injury or death of an animal in retribution for a family member's unsatisfactory behaviour," the report found. "As such, animal cruelty was orchestrated to directly hurt the woman and child(ren). The outcome of the abuse was a level of intimidation that secured the families' compliance and obedience for fear that a cherished animal would be beaten or killed." Another study, from the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics in the UK, found perpetrators of violence usually harmed those physically weaker than themselves and as a result "abuse of animals occurs frequently in conjunction with human abuse". Animal abuse was a red flag for other forms of violence, it said. "Unfortunately, health agencies do not give the human–animal violence link sufficient weight in public health policy," the study found. For contacts details of pet crisis services, contact Safe Steps on 1800 015 188 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732) 1800respect.org.au is the national 24/7 counselling helpline for family violence. The Men's Referral Service provides anonymous and confidential telephone counselling, information and referrals to men to help them take action to stop using violent and controlling behaviour 1300 766 491.

Yay, Go Danny very good news DDD

I am a little concerned there has been no update.

Penny (16) developed the same problem, tested for UTI, all ok, so was put on Stilboestrol twice weekly (Mac is also on Stilboestrol so I buy a 100 tablet bottle) She started flirting with Mac...generally behaved like a tart, drove us nuts. I phoned the vet and was advised to cut down the dose to 1 tablet a week, this has worked very well so no more losing bladder control when she is sleeping. When she was behaving like a bitch in season it was a worry as she has arthritis and we feared she would hurt herself...she was pretty full-on :laugh: