fuzzy_dragonfly

For those that followed my topic in the puppy problems section this is Sui after her workout today. She did surprisingly well . This is the face of Evil: ARGHH..... EVIL KILLER ATTACK BULL BREED I TELL YOU : OH NO....Watch out...She's teamed up with our evil killer attack kitty ..... now we're in a lot of trouble Sui had a mishap with a dog at the dog park 2 weeks ago. There was a fight between a grey fluffy and my boof-headed Sui. Both dogs were unharmed but it was a wakeup call to go ask for help specific for Sui's needs. She attends obedience which actually helped because a lot of the work we do there gives us a good starting point to help modify her behaviour. A little more practise and she'll be the perfect canine citizen.....but not yet.....she's still hypo when she's not tired from training.

Hi there, Just thought I'd give you an update on what's happened. I contacted Trudi and Julie of dog logic and just had a session with them. They brought along a setter and a sheltie to assess the extent of dog aggression. The good news: Basically there is none , she is not dog aggressive at all. Really good news, I didn't want to make that call before getting a second opinion. I have a staffy, not the kind of dog you want to underestimate, they're very strong dogs....their farts are strong too. They taught me some alternative methods in trying to modify her behaviour because she is a hyperactive dog. The source of her issues is with her hyperactivity, she likely frightened the other dog being over the top and it reacted which is turn made Sui react. Basically if I'm ever in a similar situation in the future the idea will be I can recall her. Within the one session I had her recalling from the other dogs even when she was in hyper-I-want-to-play mode....on lead of course. She's a quick learner . We also worked on methods of to correcting her jumping up on people. Yeah, so basically we will be practising our recalls as well as learning not to jump up on people and it should help with any luck. It was a bit hard to do one activity where the idea was that she was supposed walk a bit ahead of me to recall her, it didn't really work that well because she heeled . I'm sure there'll be opportunities to practise that when she's hyped up again. By then she'd gone into working mode and she's a completely different dog when she's working. Don't know if our stand for exam is going to get any better, but it should help if she knows not to jump up on people. Cheers for the help guys

Actually I honestly think part of the problem comes from poor dog ownership. I've never whelped a litter but provided books and resorces to two collegues at work who "accidentally" had an entire male and female dog together, one wasn't really an accident . Thankfully I convinced ONE collegue to desex both male and female....whoopie-do-dah. The unfortunate thing is in both cases my collegues chose to give the enitre pups away "free to a good home" .... Big accident waiting to happen....I kept in touch with one of the homes that adopted and found out their undesexed pup had "run away" ;) . I've since found another one also "ran away" . And no they weren't all that keen on finding their lost pups either . Simple maths: That equates to approx 12 crossbred pups, at least another 8-10 from the runnaways, goodness knows how many from the next generation if they fall into the wrong hands .... and the cycle continues. Nothing illegal, it's not deliberate BYBing either. Just two very ignorant dog owners doing very irresponsible things with their dogs. They aren't bad people ... stupid (putting it nicely) ... I agree. It's more than likely these "free to good home" pups are the type that would end up in pounds. . It's not their fault they were born. Maybe there should be more focus on the responsibilities and consequences of owning a dog. No matter where you buy it from, if you aren't registered as a breeder yourself. Desex it, vaccinate it ... love it. A dog is a dog, wheather they are a show dog or a mongrel they all deserve the same level of care!

Hey there * waves* the joys of pet ownership hey! I've rung around, you need to e-mail k9pro! I spoke to a lovely lady from doglogic it sounds like the right kind of program for me and bonus... She owns a staffy too! I'll let you know how it goes. They're implimenring behaviour modifIcation. Wouldn't it be nice to have a dog that doesn't go red in the face from excitement! Excuse the spelling I'm on my iPod.'

Cheers, From a finantial perspective I'd love to try playing training games to help settle her at home. I tried training her using books and puppy training DVDs, all with very good advice but you struggle if you don't have someone there to help you. There are various other games I've tried from here in the past, I've had little sucess after trialing them for 2 weeks. Yes it probably is a situation where aggression was triggered, she's not typically aggressive, protective or fearful. She's the type of dog that would be more likely to bowl you over and lick your face off. Still I'd rather play it safe and not make excuses for what happened. A dog only needs to attack or kill a small animal once to be labeled a dangerous dog. Think of how bad the situation might have been if nobody was there to seperate the two! I've got a few suggestions now, I'm going to try ringing around. Thanks for the help

Yes, I'm from deerbush. I agree that some of the advice is conflicting. There's no way Sui can understand what I'm saying when some of the training techniques are inconsistent. Some are great trainers but need to work on people skills. I'll ring around this week to get quotes from k9 pro and other places I've been recommended. I might need to save up a bit for the program that's right for us. I can't just pluck $600 from the air but I can budget for what I need.

I doubt Sui's a pure staffy although she was given to me as a pure staffy .... the breeder wanted me to breed from her .... IDIOT! The other dog was a mongrel fluffy malteesy looking thing probably one of those *oodle - schmoodle dogs .... I don't know, people have crossed them so badly even the best couldn't tell what breed they are any more. It's was about the size of a toy poodle, bigger than a chihuahua. I know the fact we weren't bitten by either dog is a good sign too. I believe is really bad dog fights it's never wise to step in a seperate them because you could put yourself in harms way. My OH has two chihuahua (x) dogs and they always growl at Sui to show her who's boss but she never attacks, she does sometimes get a but boisterous but the chihuahua's usually put her back in her place: She's never hurt our cats or small animals ... that could be because she sees them as part of her pack. Yes I was looking at K9Pro, I hadn't realised they'd changed from K9Force. I did get a suggestion of anothe place to so I'll be looking into all the suggestions to see which one would suit us best. Cheers.

You must have the same brand of keyboard I do LOL. I think the real issue is her being hyperactive. I was frightened that it may have esculated to aggression. If it was getting worse rather than better I was concerned the situation was now beyond what I could do to help her. She's always had an issue of jumping up on visitors or people that try to pet her. I'd love her to be perminantly indoors but it gets overwhelming to have a dog that runs on energizer batteries. At training we've only done the stand for examination twice sucessfully. The 99 other times she jumped up and started licking the trainer trying to examine her. It is quite possible the other dog was being defensive, it was near it's owner. I did consider this because it wasn't typical behaviour from my dog. She usually is submissive to large dogs but can be a bit dominant to smaller dogs, never aggressive. The owner did grab their dog and Sui did not bite the other owner when he did this. I didn't get bitten when I pulled Sui off the other dog either. We literally seperated them about 5 seconds into the dispute. The issue was between the two dogs. Yes I know my dog is quite capable of delivering a fatal injury to a small dog in that time, or even mistakingly bitten one of us seperating the dog fight. But the fact the dispute started at all has me concerned. I don't ever want to give her the chance to accidentally bite. Nevertheless it's something I can't afford happening again. It's not an issue I have the knowledge or experience to deal with on my own. I want to be confident that I can trust her without a muzzle. Yes the dog park is out of bounds unless we are the only ones there, I've already come to that conclusion. It's a shame so many people were there today, she loves using the agility style equipment. I really do feel I need help. If anybody can recommend someone who can help with a hypo staffy ... PLEASE! I need her to be calmer around other strange dogs and people. It's not always apparent because she does walk on lead well, she has a pretty impressive list of tricks she can do, she's even pretty good at training, she picks up new activities fast and remembers activities she hasn't done in a while. She's a smart dog, but in certain situations she gets really excited and it's difficult to have any controll, that's where I need help the most.

Yes it's the Kra Mar quick fit mesh one. BTW: I will be asking for advice at the dog club too. The basket one isn't going to suit training as it would be difficult to give her a treat reward. The KraMar one will have do to for the moment.

I'm near Campbelltown. I bought a Kra Mar muzzle. It is a mesh one.

I know they greyhounds do. Isn't that a regulation of some sort, not because they are typically aggressive or dangerous? It does tend to send the wrong message to the community about certain breeds of dogs. I know for mine it's necessary till I can address the problem. She's not typically aggressive, there is obviously something I'm overlooking as to what's triggering her bevaviour problems. Not only this case but her hyperactivity which I think is possibly linked to this incodent. I will have a talk with the vet and see what they can recommend.

The incodent didn't happen that long ago so I'm still pretty shaken about it myself. My eyes are still red, I can hardly see what I'm typing. I just got her muzzle, I've never needed one before. I just don't know what else to do. I really don't want to be walking her around with a muzzle on for the rest of her life.

Hi, I have a pet staffy she is nearly 2 years of age. She is my first dog but I've tried my hardest by doing everything right by her. I started training her in obedience at 8 months of age and have progressed to intermendiate on lead. She does occasionally lunge at dogs playfully if eye contact is made, I correct her. However the issue does seem to be ongoing. It won't happen often, maybe 1 or 2 times every 2 weeks, usually when we are doing dog passing dog or figure of eightes. She is desexed, vaccinated etc.... She lives with 3 cats and my OH's chihuahua (x). Apart from hyperactivity she has lived harmoniously with the other animals. Her hyperactive behaviour has prevented her from becoming an indoor dog full time however she does frequently get let in if we are home to supervise. There was in incodent at the dog park today. I had my dog on lead and walked her around for approx 10 minutes, she seemed keen to go play with the other dogs. I didn't see a smaller dog near a bench and not even 10 seconds after letting her off lead she lunged at the small dog and started attacking. It happened in the blink of an eye, all I could hear was a lot of growling and yelping. I grabbed my dog by the collar, thankfully the other dog was unharmed. It was shaken by the event but we throughly checked it and there were no injuries. I am devistated by the event and don't require a lecture on how I could have prevented it. I came home in tears because I knew this sort of problem is beyond my abilities or the ability of the training club to correct. This is the first sign of aggression my dog has ever shown, I've done everything possible to try and correct her hyperactivity and overexitement. I've made the desicion to have her muzzled from now on at training and during walks, I can't afford another accident. I love my dog, but I need to do what's right by the community. Can anybody suggest a professional trainer that might be able to help?

I've become increasingly aware that in the small animal fancy people will purchase animals from a pet shop and call them "rescues". I'm really fustrated at this attutude because they are in reality creating a demand and generating a profit for pet stores. There was a brilliant story about a pet store puppies that was written from the stores perspective. I'm trying to find the link to it can anybody give me a hand?

BUMP...any chance I can get details on where to buy Control Unleashed?