Lizzy06

I have posted a few subjects on here regarding Pancreatitias. My Lizzy has it and her vet said i should try her on Zantac. He has said it to me numerous times now, but it is medication and i don't like the idea of her being on it. I was wondering if anyone else has used it for this reason? He told me the lady vet doesn't like the idea of her going on it but he thinks it may do her well. I have her on Enzyplex and i was asking him which brand of this was better and whether Thrive D or B would do a similar thing to help her. (As i'm almost out) If anyone could help me with SUpplements to put her on ie Vitamin E & C and where they get them from, that would be appreciated too. I bought her some vitamin E from the health food shop the other day. But i don't understand how much i should give her as it says on the bottle that half a dropper is for kids which is 78IU. Online it says to give a small dog 100IU which is almost an adults dosage according to the box of vit e. Websites i have been onto say a dog should have 1/10 or 1/6 of the amount of an adult. So it doesn't make sense to me so i have sinced stopped giving it to her. Is there a supplement u can purchase for dogs which has these in it? Or what is the best way to go about it.

Thankyou for this. Wow i will be the happest person in the world if i can get Lizzy to have not more atacks for 9 years!! Were you giving a few meals a day as well instead of the one main meal? Would i tbe possible to get a dogs system to handle a different meal in the morning as to the evening. As for instance. The digestive food in the morning and then chicken / rice / vegies evenings? Did you used to feed vegetables. Is Chicken fine for a rest of their life diet ie no red meat? you also said NO Fresh Bones. Was there some sort of other bone you fed. My girls back teeth are pretty horrible. I try to brush them daily.. but tthey are still dirty. I had taken Lizzy to the vet on saturday for follow up blood testing on her kidneys and it was the next morning she vomited etc. I rang the vet and said i thought she was fine until she had been there. He said perhaps the stress of her needles (as she was yelping set her off) i find this a little hard to believe. Her poos were abnormal for a few weeks solid but like a yellow / greenish off colour.

I wouldn't say she is controlled exactly! But i have her on Royal Canin Low fat digestive tins / biscuits. I feed that in the mornings and evenings i was feeding her boiled chicken or kangaroo, blended vegies and rice. I'm trying to work her little body out still. She is also on Enzyplex (enzymes with each wet meal) she flared up over the weekend after 3 months of doing well. So now i'm back to the drawing board of working out what went wrong. ALl i can think is that i was over feeding her in the evenings or you see she has a drinking problem... hardly ever drinks so i was sitting down with her in the evenings with around 100-120mls of water with a little cottage cheese in it to get her to drink. Perhaps it was to much water for her body to take. So i will stop this and stop the cottage cheese.

Sounds like Chronic Pancreatitias to me too. My girl suffers from it and i'm in the process of trying to work out her system. I get her under control and then 3 months later it happens again. Normal blood tests don't usually diagnose this disease. Lizzy was sick for a few months and they couldn't for the life of them work out what was wrong, at one stage they thought her kidneys were failing. After me nagging they finally did a test that gets sent to W.A and i think it is about 80% accurate at diagnosing pancreatitis. Finally came back positive. So now it is a matter of trying to control it. It is a horrible painful condition. You said about not eating food and then a few hours later your dog will? this is what Lizzy was doing all the time. The thought of food sets of pains in the pancreas. Lizzy will go to eat food and then it is like something stops her and she cannot eat. She will also eat alot of grass and sometimes vomit and you can tell that something is just generally not right with her, a lot more quieter, a little depressed perhaps and very glassy looking eyes! I strongly suggest you ask your vet for this test. If it is Pancreatitias you shouldn't be feeding the pooch and they should be starved for at least 24 hours. Also some dogs just cannot stomach virtually any fat at all. Liz is just getting over a flare up at the moment and i cannot work out what set her off this time. So now i will be keeping her diet to the absolute bare miniumum of fat. (don't know how i can go and lower though honestly)

Is skim milk ok to give them? Are they lactose intolerant to it though? I could give her that watered down perhaps too.

Yes i honestly do. I have felt this for months and months now. She has two one is cermaic and one is plastic. Is your feeling based on veterinary advice or just your perception of what she should be drinking? She is a tiny dog getting significant water in her food. I rarely see my smallest dog drink but she's not dehydrated. I'd suggest you get rid of the plastic bowl and replace with a stainless steel or food grade ceramic one. If the ceramic one you have is not food grade, I'd replace it too. The vet said a dog her size should have 50mls for each 1/2 kilo she weighs. She said she should drink between 250 -300mls a day. Will do that about the the bowls. The ones she has are probably cheap chinese ones. Where would i buy these sort from?

Ive tried that she has one or two licks and then walks off. ha ha I'm sure she does this to test me lol

Yeah i know but she wouldn't even drink half a cup full a day :-( Ok will try not to encourage but it is hard when i know she isn't drinking enough.

Yes i honestly do. I have felt this for months and months now. She has two one is cermaic and one is plastic.

Does your puppy drink more these days or still not a big drinker? Does it depend on the breed of dog? she is a mini foxi cross chihauhua.

A vet seeing the dog would be the best to diagnose that. She was at the vet all the time when she was very sick. They couldn't really help me with anyways to get her to drink more. He just said like a horse you can lead her to water but not force her to drink it!

Yes my little Lizzy girl does have Pancreas / kidney problems. So that is another issue i have to watch with the salt / fat intake!

Hi I've been having troubles over the last 6 months or more to get my dog to drink. It is a mission. I have to mix water in her food so i know she gets some down. It is very rare she goes to her bowl and drinks on her own! Sometimes in the evenings i can get her to drink a little after boiling her chicken and she will drink a little bit of the water left over!. I'm getting to my witts ends with her! Even after a long walk she usually still does not drink! ANy sugestions would be appreciated. Thankyou

Hi my little girl was diagnosed with pancreatitas after 3 flare ups. Most of last year she was sick on and off! I finally seem to have her under control now.. (touchwood) I give her two meals a day now. As smaller meals are more beneficial. I think they should be fed several small meals a day but because i work full time this is not possible. Fore breaky i give her Royal Canin Low fat tin food. She is not fussed on it so i mix some low fat cottage cheese into it with digestive enzymes. The cottage cheese tempts her to eat it! For dinner i cook vegies and blend them to liquid, cook brown rice and boil chicken. Mix it all together with enzymes! As a treat sometimes i give her some plain yoghurt in it or i cook Kangaroo steak once or twice a week for somthing different instead of chicken all the time! She gets given royal canins low fat dog kibble when i leave for work just a half handful and a few more when i get home from work. She seems so much better in herself nowdays. She used to be in constant pain and sleep alot and used to be such a fussy eater. She now knows she gets fed what i make and doesn't eat our food anymore. It takes alot to get them intoa routine. She is now 2 and a half. The first year and a bit of her life she would eat whatever we eat and then when she got sick it took me months to get her onto her own diet! I hope this is useful for you and i hope your pooch will be ok. It is a hard disease to handle that is for sure... and so cruel too.

I have posted a few topics on my girl with Pancreatitis and Kidney problems. These Chicken treats were recalled almost a week ago now. They are still on supermarket shelves. My girls vet went to see out local supermarket and told them there has been a recall and explained what they do to dogs and to take them off their shelves. They ignored him and they are still selling them. My mum also works in supermarkets and they are selling them too. What do we do or who who do we go to to make sure they get taken off? Iam so angry if this happened with human food it would be a major deal!

I'm thinking good wishes for your beautiful boy..... Stay positive for him!!!

My vet told me they cannot pin these treats on my pooches bad health. They said she had to have glucose in her urine and that this was never noted as being abnormal. It states above that they may have a high urea level..... which is what she had.! It doesn't say they have to have an abnormal urine reading. Im so annoyed i just want answers as to what to do etc!

Yep that is the same thing my dog went through. She loved them. She went off her food and would only eat these treats. I knew something was really wrong when she eventually couldn't even eat these treats in the end. It also seems to have only affected small breeds of dogs. My girl only weight 4.5kgs

I wouldn't be concerned either. I was the one who posted the link about the chicken treats. I used to give my girl packets and packet off them for around six months. She now has serious pancreas problems and they think possible kidney damage. But as i said she went through alot of packets. I was also sucked in by the 100% chicken no preservatives etc. Poor little darling iam so annoyed i cannot describe how mad iam. She was born with perfectly normal organs now because of these treats they are badly hurt :-(

I now don't need to mention the brand.... Thankyou Great i been feeding my dogs these's treats... That is the only brand of Chicken Treats we gave squeak that caused her to go into renal failure. It didnt effect our other dog, but we're getting her a full check up just incase! but she has a stomach of steel so she will eat anything thats on the ground.. haha, but its better to be safe than sorry. We dont buy other chicken treats because squeak loves them, and have had to learn the hard way about what poorly made or imported food can do to your dog. Is squeak a small dog? My vet told me that is is only the smaller breeds of dogs that it seems to affect. I guess they are so small and their organs are so small they cannot handle it? either way knowing what i know now i still wouldn't give it to a larger breed dog either! How is Squeak now? Also the vet said, that they get hooked on these treats, they tend to go off their food and the only food they will eat is these treats! It is so terrible, they better hurry up and take them off the shelves. I used to buy my lil Lizzy two packets a week. They were $5 a packet and stated they had no preservatives etc etc, i thought wow i cannot go wrong and she loved them, i pretty much only gave her those treats no others!

Another bit of useful info. I have been told to avoid cheaply painted toys from China as well. They use nasty chemicals on them. My girls plays with toys all of the time. It makes it hard because MOST toys are from China. I wish i knew all of this before i bought my ll girl!

Yeah i never thought i would buy anything from China, but i honestly didn't know they were from there. It written so small on the back of the packet. What frustrates me is that these treats were so expensive too! They make them sound so healthy and good on the packet! I only thought food made in China would be sold in those cheap $2 shops!

The product has not been recalled yet and it is sitting on our supermarket shelves still. The Sydney vet society is currently looking into this and are performing there on tests on the products. My vet just told me apparantly the company is in the process of trying to sue the vets..... gotta shake your head don't you! They are chicken Treats, on the front they say no preservatives etc and if you read the back of the packet in small writing they say 'Made in China' avoid any treats that are made in china! I spoke with my dogs vet about 5 minutes ago. Iam taking my girl down this afternoon for some follow up testing. I will ask her if i can name the brand as she told me to tell as many people as possible