Bisart Dobes
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The worst age to look at most breeds is between 6 and 12 / 18 months. I would tell your friend to get the breeder to reassess the pup and take it from there. I have a 4 year old who hasn't hit his maturity yet - waiting waiting waiting . His sister CH Titled at 2 1/2 and his brother at 3 but he's taking his sweeta--e time. I have a 2 1/2 year old whose head still changes monthly - his jaw structure changes - teeth move - lacks underjaw and then a month later looks at me and I nearly fall over with how stunning his head looks. He will probably finish at 4 years as well. We always run on our picks until 12 to 16 weeks. In the last litter I had someone who wanted a show puppy - they also wanted her at 8 weeks of age, this I understand but had to explain the risk on taking a 'show potential' at 8 weeks. Still she was a lovely puppy, has gone through the fugglies and is now starting to mature into a beautiful girl - they have had her out of the ring for some time understanding the process but we'll get her back in soon. Patience Is A Virtue
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Sorry - no offence to you or your comment but a Champion title isn't always a guarentee that you have a quality show dog. I've seen dogs title with extras on the end of the lead that I wouldn't put in the ring if I bred it . . .
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Years ago a friend who used to breed danes told me a story about dying dogs coats. She is a hairdresser and insists that hair dye will not stay in dogs coats. But anyway I think from memory it was Canberra Royal or Specialty (a bigger show anyway) and this Harlequin Dane Bitch was in the ring for either BIG or BISS when it started to rain . Well ofcourse her coat dideth runeth :D . The handler took a while to realise it was happening and then very quickly removed the dog from the ring. Can't remember what she said about consequences coming from this - it was more a discussion about dying coats and how it doesn't work with dog hair no matter what you use.
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I can't upload my pictures for some reason - but if you want to see a 'show' dobe go to the link below. He has great drives, learns extremely quickly (he knew drop and drop on the move actually I didn't have to teach him which is scarey - I think he learnt from watching my older dogs work), passed his temperament test on his first attempt with ease, he literally jumps through hoops to please you, blah blah blah - yes I did breed him and yes I am slightly biased but you don't have to have a full on no sense dog to have correct dobermann temperament. He is ready and willing to guard and protect but welcomes guests into the house once they are invited, he is great with children and puppies and wins over even the wariest person with his charm. And as for show line dobes being too small and fine - he sits on 28 inches and btwn 40 & 42 kgs comfortably and he is 2 1/2 years old - he still has at least 1 1/2 years before he hits his prime. http://bisartdobermanns.homestead.com/ryder.html I just think that the working / showline divide is a waste of time - Brian McLaren loved our dogs, in type, trainability and drive - that was a great honour for me and showed me I am on the right track to developing a well conformed balanced dobermann - something we should all be striving toward regardless of original pedigree.
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Poor old dog - we cherish our oldies, just can't imagine ever doing something like this. Karma will come around.
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I've had people in our breed accuse me of dying my dogs brown coats - "because you just don't get brown dobes that colour - they are way too dark". Once was when I was in the ring and so I stopped next to the steward who had heard it as well and said - "I am happy for a coat sample to be taken to put that accusation to rest but I am not leaving the ring until it is done". Well they soon shut up and after a few more 'way too dark browns' I think they get that you can get good coats on browns :D - they can't produce them and they can't maintain them but that isn't my problem . . . But then I did see a dobermann exhibitor colour in the entire tan of a bitch at Sunbury Int show - she got BOB too, for the life of me I cannot figure out how the judge didn't end up with brown crap all over his hands. I figure if people want to do things like this let them lower their standards, me I will breed to get a beautiful dark mahogany tan the way they are supposed to be - but each to their own. I certainly didn't think it was worth reporting them. Why worry about cosmetic things really when the amount of people who drug their dogs to show them is astronomical !!!!
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Yeah, showoff - how many is that now from baby and minor
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Most of the fluff is just from where it is cut and the edges lose some coat . I haven't really had any extra or excessive fluff on any of ours and I've been using it for about 6 years now. I wash it with other things and it goes in the dryer which helps to remove all the fluff. I find it really likes some fabric softener as well.
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Sorry but the vision you give is very funny - can just imagine it Careful with stuff like valium - it can have the opposite effect on some dogs. If he gets carsick try a ginger snap treat 1/2 hour b4 you leave and / or raspberry cordial (weak) works on some dogs as well. You can also get a space clearing spray (bush flower essences) which works well with car sick dogs. Can't you tether him shorter to the back of the seat so that he can just lay down and then maybe give him a kong with something yummy which will keep him happy and occupied ?? I always have extra dog blankets, at least 2 towels, leads, dog water bottles, gumboots, a spare coat and my tracking gear on the floor under my back seat buddy so my dogs would be able to do this even if they wanted to - the space filler is a great idea but I don't have room for it :D.
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Thank you - very interesting. From the link it seems to run in certain breeds (though they only have 3 listed, it obviously affects more) - does anyone know if these breeds have auto-immune problems overall ? Also within those breeds does it seem to have an inheritance factor - run in certain lines ? If it does - do those breeders practice immune system development and support for bitches in whelp and / or their pups from birth ? There are numerous natural ways to improve immune function in breeding stock and ofcourse you would select against this, if at all possible.
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Have never had a pup with this - sounds bit scarey, poor baby - hope he recovers well. I do have a few questions though for learnings sake How do you pick it ? What are the telling signs ? How do they get it ? Can you prevent it ?
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Thanks for posting that - interesting read.
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Inside, believe outside being rested. Good lord its inside - Outside they could open as a dog swimming pool at the moment :p.
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Save your entry forms for each dog on the computer - then you don't have to fill it in everytime and don't make mistakes - all you have to change is the date / show / entry fee and print. Can't believe people still hand write entry's (I even print my sse's).
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Really ?? From your website pictures I thought you had some grey / tan rotties
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Id collars around 4 weeks - unless they keep tearing them off each other . Normal collar with lead attached to drag around (individually) - 5 weeks for a week to get used to lead then we pick it up and they just follow. Baby show lead from 5 weeks with bikka and walking training.
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Who Do You Contact To Get Dna Testing Done?
Bisart Dobes replied to asal's topic in Breeders Community
Gentec (animalnetwork.com) do offer discounts for litters and multiple tests/dogs. Contact them to check details - they are really good to deal with. Also they offer alot more tests and I think they are the only ones recognised / certified by the ANKC. If you need parentage to register your litter it has to be certified or you won't be able to register the litter - just check to make sure others will be recognised - would be a waste to test and then have to do it again with another company. -
Sounds like she is practicing her working skills. But I would get her checked thoroughly by a vet just to make sure there is nothing underlying like the 2nd post.
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Bisart Dobes replied to SwaY's topic in General Dog Discussion
Just saw one you have on there and know their breed Bindobe = Dobermanns -
See above why I asked re G/Anes. I hope all is well with him - sounds like shock with his heart rate. Poor baby boy - my heart and thoughts are with you both. In the future if you like I have a big sooky boy who adores puppies and can get the most timid one playing - happy to have a 'play date' if it suits.
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Why do you ask, BD? Curious. And I agree - bad age for pup to have this happen, if it had to happen at all. Once he's physically well enough, enrolment to a reputable dog school with instructors who have canine behaviour knowledge under their belt, would be what I'd recommend. And ASAP. It will be a case of easy does it, but as fast as possible. General anesthetic causes short term memory loss - a great thing if your dog has been attacked .
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ARGHHHHH ! Such a bad age for him to have this happen - poor baby. Just one question ??? Has he had anesthetic at the vet ??
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Below is the email I received today and thought that this is the perfect place to post this - anyone interested please go to his website and complete the survey. ***** Here is a survey I thought you might want to share the information with your club and other breeders . The literature on Bloat points in many directions which has not brought breeders any closer to a solution. For these reasons we have developed a new survey that focuses on some of the factors that might contribute to its occurrence. We need breeders: That had a dog that bloated and/or a dog that did not bloat. This survey is the joint effort of Dr. Carmen Battaglia PHd of the AKC and Dr. Cindy Otto DVM, Univ. Penn, Vet School. Our goal is to look at conditions that are relevant to the further study of this disease. Your contribution is appreciated. A summary of the results and findings will be posted on our website www.breedingbetterdogs.com in November 2010. Use this address to complete the survey: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WS2VKFP “ Thanks for any help that you can give to this effort. If you do not use it I understand. Send this to those who you know might participate. Thanks Carmen Battaglia 770 998 3679
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I dont' think there is a cut off age - VCA code of practice states - not prior to maturity for that breed, no more that 2 times in 18 months, no more than 6 times in total without vet certificate. Breed clubs were all required to submit maturity age several years ago - our breed is 18 months. Our 7 year old has just had her 2nd litter, she had a full vet work up 4 months prior and has had several vet checks through the whole pregnancy - when ultrasound was done etc etc. Though the vet nearly fell over when I said she was 7 and here I was thinking I was going to get a lecture but she couldn't believe that she was 7, she thought that she looked and felt about 4 years old (and she acts like a 2 year old :D). Though I wouldn't have bred her if there were any health issues, or if she didn't whelp easily the first time or if she wasn't a good mum. I think it entirely depends on the dog themselves and the breed.
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Just like people colds there are many different KC strains - the vaccine only covers one or two of them and from several seasons ago. After working as a vet nurse (and reading the vet press mags which state that they only work in certain situations) I stopped giving KC Vacs to our dogs and none of them have had KC. During the bad time of the year though and if there is alot of it around and because we go to dog shows where some people exhibit their dogs regardless of what is wrong with them :D - I do give them a natropathic solution for KC which boosts their immunity and stops them picking up the bug. It does work when they do have it as well and they are better in 3 days or so - it may work for your kid, better than antibiotics if you don't need them. A child strength cough syryp is good for their throats as well (always used this when vet nursing) - just make sure its a flavour they will swollow and get a syringe from the chemist to administer it as well, a warm chicken broth is good if the throat is too sore for them to eat and lastly a warm environment and a warm cosy bed for the night. Just like us when we get a cold :D. (I take the dogs KC drops over winter as well - so it works to people to prevent colds). Contact Carol Freeman K9 Kinesiology and Natropathy - 03 9796 8330 - if you are interested & ask for the Kennel Cough Drops.