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We had a similar problem with one of ours. We used chilli paste and tobasco sauce. It did slow him down until he got to like the taste and then it started again. However by thistime the leg had healed enough it didnt matter

Surprised its not worse. We are north of this location and we had a terrific storm go through starting with Thunder and Lightening from 6pm with a heck of a lot of rain (about two inches) added at 2.30am. If it hit us it would have hit there as well. Would have been absolutely terrifying for the child. Surprised the dog would have hung around. Some of the thunder we got around midnight would have woken the dead. LizT in that area they would have been on a block. The city proper is a few more k's up the road. Iwas in Mildura last night and the storm went around us, we got a bit of rain and could hear thunder but it didn't hit Mildura luckily. Indigirl can you possibly PM me when you get a chance. Thanks.

Surprised its not worse. We are north of this location and we had a terrific storm go through starting with Thunder and Lightening from 6pm with a heck of a lot of rain (about two inches) added at 2.30am. If it hit us it would have hit there as well. Would have been absolutely terrifying for the child. Surprised the dog would have hung around. Some of the thunder we got around midnight would have woken the dead. LizT in that area they would have been on a block. The city proper is a few more k's up the road.

Wish I knew about it before entries closed. Would be there for two of the three. Wonder if they will accept 8 entries this late?

Where is everyone getting the Vitamin B from.We have a dog here that got spooked at its first show at 3 months of age. Its now been 18 months later and she is still a bit panicky around strangers. Although she is getting better but a long time to undo a split second incident

just curious but when the side on photos were taken was it done using a tri-pod on the camera as the side shots look to be slightly different angles. I thought at first the white one looked a bit short on length and hind legs but if there is a slight variation of angle that could give a distorted view. A slight movement of the camera operator, by as little as an inch, slightly forward and looking back along the dog will give a different look to the dogs profile. Even holding the camera slightly elevated from one shot to the next will alter the profile. Use of a tripod would mean the camera is constant height, angle and distance which would give a better comparison of the two. However I should point out that I am used to looking for squareness of body and level topline as these apply to our breed. Not that I am trying to be critical. I just feel that when comparing two dogs in photos you need to present each dog exactly the same.

Glad you enjoyed the laugh Asal, and yes the sad part is it is true.

It would generally have to be "reasonable belief" ie a belief based on some factual basis or on a report, not pulled out of thin air. "Saw a dog through a window. Could not see any water bowl. Therefore I believe the dog has no water. On this basis I entered the property and seized the dog to prevent an act of cruelty" That is a reasonable belief (within the intent of the act) Doesn't matter that there probably is a water bowl available. But because it can't be seen that is a reasonable belief it doesn't exist. Where does it say anywhere in the act that the reasonable belief must be based on some factual basis or report? As it is not mentioned there is no requirement. If a matter were to get to a court of law all the inspector would have to say is "I thought there was an act of cruelty that had occured, was happening or was about to happen." They would then be protected by the letter of the law. Where in the matter that Steve raises is there any basis of fact or a report. I also watched the RSPCA rescue with the inspector going into a house about a docked dog. There was no factual evidence that the dog was docked illegally or suffered any form of cruelty. The inspector seen the dog through a window with its curtains pulled open. That is a reasonable belief and thats all that is needed.

So following on From Haredowns post. In NSW if an RSPCA inspector has reason to believe an act of animal cruelty has occured, is currently occuring or is about to occur then yes they can enter your premises (including your home) without a warrant, police presence or your presence and seize the animal. Best of luck getting them to pay for any damage done in the process. You can pretty well guarantee they will always BELIEVE something is being done or about too. How can you define a belief . How can you provide evidence of a matter that someone believes. The power is given by the state governement that drafted the act. The same government that was voted in by the citizens, and via similar acts are removing your rights. In NSW its the companion animal act. Most other states have something similar these days. Furthermore they (RSPCA) do not have to justify their actions to any other regulatory body. Unlike police and governments. Its ridiculous that a charity has greater powers (with no accountability) than a legitimate body such as police. It's like having the girl guides doing health inspections at restaurants and being able to shut down a cafe without explaining why.

Indigirl if you are going to Mildura show I will introduce you to someone that has a lot of experience with doing an assisted mating. I haven't needed to do one myself luckily. But this person has done it quite a lot. That would have been fantastic but unfortunately I have to go to Sydney that weekend Thats OK. Don't think I could take being screamed at again on the side of the road home.

Indigirl if you are going to Mildura show I will introduce you to someone that has a lot of experience with doing an assisted mating. I haven't needed to do one myself luckily. But this person has done it quite a lot.

PLL is Primary lens luxation. Its where the lens of the eye seperates and causes blindness. A dog can be clear, carrier or affected. If two dogs that are clear are mated then any progeny will also be clear. If a carrier and a clear are mated then any progeny will be a mix of clear and carrier depending on which gene is dominant in the individual pup. If two carriers are mated then an affected pup could be produced which will usually suffer at an average age of six to seven years of age (according to a canine eye specialist in Adelaide) The affected dog will have its eyes seperate and will result in eventual blindness after months of intense pain. DNA testing can be done to identify carriers and allow for this problem to eventually be bred out. CHG is congenital hypothyroidism with goiter which basically is an iodine deficency-although rare it is fatal to pups that obtain both affected genes from the parents. Signs include abnormal hair coat, inactivity, and delayed eye opening. As such a few breeders are doing DNA tests to identify any dogs with CHG and try to eliminate these from the breeding program. However these problems will only be eliminated from the breed if all breeders do the testing. As many people with this breed only have them as pets they don't usually bother with testing (or they arent aware of the problems to start with) but if they have a litter then the potential exists for these problems to continue. This is why I mentioned before if the breeder does not test, makes excuses for not testing or claims to test but will not show results walk away. You won't want the heartache that can result from these inheritable horrors. As for breeders in the area you mention I can't say I know of any.Thats not too say there aren't any there though. However we have shown at several places in Victoria and rarely come up against any other Tenties.I reckon I could guarantee you won't find too many breeders of any breed in the yellowpages.

Shame you are so far away as I would love to help out. However a few things to remember. 1/Your pup is a baby puppy and most judges are good about this. 2/Don't expect perfect behaviour from her. However if she does behave pretend its because of your superior dog training skills. 3/If she does misbehave use the excuse of "Shes only a baby, Only entered her so she could get used to the ring" 4/Don't be too harsh on her if she does play up. You run the risk of making her resent the ring completely.Let her have a play-then she will be more likely to enjoy it when she gets older 5/Just watch a few breeds before yours to see what patterns the judge requests. Most judges will use the same pattern in the ring for all dogs they go over 6/By all means do tell the steward and judge it is your first show. Everyone has to have a first show at some point-even judges. 7/Remember that the judge is also a dog person who started right where you are starting. 8/the dog show judge can't send you to jail so don't be afraid of them. 9/ She is a dog. You are human. all can make mistakes. When I first started doing obedience it was explained as follows: The very fact that you and your pup communicate in different languages means even the best laid plans are doomed to fail. 10/ as it is baby puppy class there are no points to win as baby puppy are not eligible for challenges. Therefore as there are no points to win there is also nothing to lose 11/ have some treats- these are good for getting a frisky pup to settle or to walk on lead. Try small pieces of liver or schmakos broken into small pieces about the size of your thumbnail. I have even gone to the canteen and bought bacon or sausage to break up for them And for yourself Relax,and remember to breathe. If your nervous or edgey your pup will pick up on it and this could cause her to misbehave. Many deep breathes or as some use a red liquid (many call it Wine,rum or dutch courage-but not too much) Be at the ring gate ready for your number to be called. But do not block the gate so others can get in and out of the ring. When they call your number let the steward know you are there and ready. Good time to let the steward know it is your first show. Remember that your number will only be called three times. Miss it and you will be disqualified. If anyone starts saying rude or nasty things about you or your pup just walk away and ignore them. Most likely they are just jealous of what you have At the end of the day your pup is still the same dog as she was before the show. Enjoy the day, you will find you will make some new friends (the enemies will come later when you win everything) Have fun

Worth remembering that not all breeders are listed on Amypie's link. There are also many that breed but are not registered breeders and so you may not get a true Tenterfield from them. Whatever Tenterfield you decide to get make sure it and its parents are tested for PLL, CHG, and luxating patellas. It may save a lot of heartbreak and expense later on. If the breeder gives you any reason why they do not test for these three problems then walk away immediately.

Be advised that the free version is limited to only sixty records. Want anymore and you have to buy it. I know this as I have bought it and did look into this previously. Also I have just checked the link posted and the site will verify this. Also it may be issued as free for educational use. Many software companies will provide software free or heavily discounted to schools, universities and TAFEs but not to the general public.

Another thing to consider is that loading of roof racks can have an effect on the cars handling. As such you really don't want too much weight up top. Also many newer cars do not have the strength to support heavy loads up high. We get a lot of people travelling through out our way that have 2 or 3 jerry cans of fuel on the roof and then wonder why their 4wd tips over easily on our rough roads. The higher the load the greater the impact on the cars handling especially in crosswinds.

YES they are. In fact three shows this weekend all NZ judges. Two in May. Not too sure about our end of October 3 show weekend though. Might have more on thatwhen it gets closer.

You are quite right. We don't know.And yes it is a terrible situation. Therefore it is hard to proportion blame for this. WHich is why I said "from what I have read on this I don't accept they have any fault". However if more facts behind this came out I would reassess if the owners of the dog have any fault. I know if it were my dog that attacked I would consider it being PTS. Basically as a matter of being able to trust it in the future. But that is different to being at fault in any way. The reality is that we probably will never know the facts that lead to this. Perhaps this is something that has been brewing over a period of time. The only people that would know are the owners of the dog, the child, and the parents of the child. No doubt there will be several versions of the incident, and the truth will lay somewhere in amongst the variations. But I think its a bit harsh to say that someone who wasn't even there has some form of fault though under the particular circumstances mentioned.

I am curious how the owners of the dog are at fault. The child put his head over the fence. in the mind of the dog this is an intruder. Simple as that. The owners of the dog did not provoke or cause the attack. They weren't home at the time. The dog was in its own yard. Perhaps if the dog was loose on the street I would accept they have some amount of fault. But from What I have read on this I don't accept they have any fault. The owners of the dog have had the dog PTS perhaps to prevent another issue later on but I fail to see how they bear any fault. We often have kids going down our back lane going to and from school and for the most part they are OK but there are always those that get some thrill from stirring up the dogs long the street. Are you suggesting that if they provoke my dog and it thinks they are an intruder when they put their head over the fence that this is my fault. It never ceases to amze me how people will not accept responsibilty for their actions but instead blame anyone else for their own decisions. You may think I am a bit harsh, frankly I don't care but I think the fault for this should be put to those at fault not the innocent people that have no part in the circumstance that lead to this matter. In this case the dog owners.

I've only just found this thread but I do want to contribute to it. Esky we have never met but I feel certain that you are underestimating yourself. You say you don't do anything different to everyone else. I think you are wrong. You are prepared to give these lovely dogs another chance at a good life. If everyone did this we wouldn't need rescues. These dogs are blessed to have you and the love you obviously give them. Don't ever sell yourself short. In closing I wish a speedy return of Penny and that you both have a long future together.

The council probably did know. But the chip number is used to prove ownership and the council, and its lifetime registration, probably want proof from the original owner that you do own the dog. Consider this: I could steal a dog from its yard, and then go and say I own it and transfer it into my ownership by signing a stat dec. The procedure for transfer is to prevent that happening. So the council will want some form of evidence to ensure you are a legitimate owner. So don't be surprised if it is not as easy as simply doing a stat dec. If it were simply details for the chip it might be simple in other states but in NSW that chip is the lifetime registration of the dog. So it could be a bit more to it. Just curious but how many in NSW are aware that you are supposed to provide a death certificate from a vet within 7 days of a dog dying? I wasn't until it was pointed out to me by our council.

I made my own database with the ability to search through judges names and see what shows they did, what comments they made. Also search for the clubs so I can see which dates I showed at which club, which dogs I showed and what the results were. This makes it easy as when a dog gets its title I can print the shows straight into the title app form along with all the dog details. I also use it to store dogs info, medical history, matings, whelpings, pup buyers details, club details and judges details. I found this much easier than a spreadsheet especially with multiple dogs.

So far only a few judges in my Black Book (although its not actually black) but they are all there for the same reason. As we are usually the last breed in our group at 99% of shows we do, these judges are usually the ones that will call class winners before all the breeds are in the ring. The first time this happened I had bought a titled dog for my neice as she wanted to show. We travelled away for a weekend of showing and at the first show she had to take her dog in for a class in group. The dogs were called into the ring one at a time by the steward. The judge didn't even bother to turn around and look at her dog. She took two steps into the ring and the judge called the class winner. All the other dogs were lined up opposite the gate. The arrogant judge just ignored her and her dog. As such she came out of the ring somewhat upset and refused to go back into the ring. This was the first show of a 4 show weekend. The end result, I showed her dog for her for the rest of the weekend, she has never gone to another show since and I refuse to go under that judge again or any other judge that does something similar. Had two others listed for the same reason

This may happen in some areas of NSW but certainly not anywhere we have been and that would cover half of the state. We have shown throughout SA, VIC and Western half of NSW as far east as Junee and Parkes area which would be about middle of the state. We do get a breakdown from some clubs in Vic but not all of them and none from the other places. We work on the theory its like a lottery to get to a show and then discover who your competition is and how many there are. If I knew in advance it tends to take away some of the fun. As for knowing what time to get to the show- the start time is in the schedule so we make sure we are at the show before the start time. If that means waiting around for our turn then that gives us more time to get the dogs ready.

Should also be pointed out that although Showpony has mentioned two sweepstakes classes, these are not the only ones although probably most common. There are some clubs that will have Juniors or even intermediate sweeps as an alternative. It is upto the club if they wish to run a sweepstakes and what age group they want to run. But it does give the club extra income from the additional entries. Also not all shows have sweepstakes and it is not compulsory to enter sweepstakes either. By that you could have a baby puppy entered in a show but it does not have to be entered in the sweepstakes. However many use the sweepstakes to give a youngster more ring experience. Sweepstakes are upto you if you wish to enter. We don't usually do sweeps as I rather use the time to get ready for breed judging itself as quite often our group is one of the first in and many of the shows we do have sweepstakes before breed judging. But that is my personal choice Also worth remembering that in a puppy sweepstakes, for example, that means in theory all pups in the show could be in the same ring at the same time so at larger shows it could get quite crowded in the lineup and it means your youngster may have to behave for quite a while. But then again many judges are forgiving if a young pup gets a bit rebelous after a while waiting to be judged.