Alyosha

Poor bloody sheep. What a world class tool, not just engaging in such disgraceful and cruel behaviour, but sharing it - and his face and numberplate... Classic dumbarse crook. Glad he's been bail refused, he's one of the main reasons gaols exist.

Newfoundland, Basset, Tibetan Spaniel or a French Bulldog perhaps? But I would still be looking at a dog as an individual, within it's breed. My kids grew up with my old Afghan and he was led around (gently) by an ear fringe, leaned or laid against for cuddles and occasionally grabbed by a stumbling child and never batted an eyelid. He could also walk without issue beside a pram or stroller. But that wouldn't be overly normal within the breed. Oh, and he used to nursemaid our baby ducklings - they would climb on him and snuggle into his coat. Maybe my Afghan was broken...?? :laugh:

Do you personally know many vets or people in the industry? Or checked out the wages on offer to new grads and junior vets? It's not a field you would be entering for cashflow. Bloody hard work for not a whole lot, and very high costs involved in running a clinic.

Maybe a bit of something else poo, or even a dirt clump that he brought in? Am thinking it might be a perfect size to have been in one of his feet...

There is also the PBGV - although you already have a basset... :D

Australian vet meds can also sometimes cost more due to very high standards of manufacture. It can be a matter of getting what you pay for... You need to respond to the company in question and tell them that it may be an offence for people to import vaccines personally, both with Quarantine and with APVMA. Australia has these sort of laws for very good reason.

:D Great pics HW.

Sounds like she is pretty convinced her dog/s don't cause any problems. It can be hard for people to accept - like some parents not coming to terms with their kids being obnoxious, and just finding someone else to blame instead. Possibly the same issue at play here.

This one captures our Ursula. This is her default position - the kids call her "Beetle Dog". If she's not doing this she is trying to prise her way between your legs, from front or back. She just likes to stand there, but the action in getting there I have nicknamed the "Mother in law deterrent"... :laugh:

That would indicate the presence of court orders... Anyone getting involved at all would be within their rights to ask about it, and certainly should read so they are no implicating themselves in anything.

There is an on site caretaker. If the hot water doesn't work in the showers track him down.

There have been about four through rescue. As there were two large (10 or so) crossbred litters from the same source I suppose that's not too bad. But the first litter were sold through Pets Paradise - as were some purebred afghans from the same source, and some of those have come through rescue too. It's from the PP sales that the rescues have come. The later litter came to rescue as tiny pups and have had much better success. Probably just due to upbringing and appropriate adoption. Some of the PP litter were sold to people with no idea. One at least was pretty much left to grow up in a backyard alone. So you have a crossbreed with potentially independent tendencies from the Afghan side, and some highly strung and more needy requirements from the Pharaoh side. Both breeds are not really for beginners, or even the faint hearted sometimes. Both parents of these litters were temperamentally sound, absolutely chilled and easygoing. But they had good upbringings and only came into unpleasant circumstances later in life. So I think the environmental factors for some of the pups have had a huge impact. So at least one though rescue took considerable time and work - he was very independent. AWL never quit on him. But the other thing that you're up against here are that these sorts of hounds don't respond well to shelter situations, no matter how good. He did end up going through foster and adoption but will always be a slightly challenging dog to live with. But he has an experienced home that love him. The one currently with AWL was (as far as I know) a full time house dog his whole life, but when his owners separated that changed to more and more alone time, and repeated escape attempts. So he ended up in the pound a couple of times and eventually surrendered. AWL took him on as well - number three of the litter for them. But he is struggling with his environment now - can't say I blame him!! Not like his brother, he's a much more outwardly loving and possibly a bit of a sensitive boy. Again he will respond much better to to foster care and eventual permanency. But the in-between stage is tough.

:rofl: I'm not sure desexing would help DD.... :D Funny how little things can have a flow on effect though. Yes it was a nerve rattler... But maybe for the best really.

Thanks guys. Tralee included - I did get your meaning. :) Dog was desexed yesterday. Owner grumbling that it was expensive and inhumane and offensive to dogs' manhood... Dear oh dear... And there are moves afoot to engage some parenting classes and supervision about the state of the house and care of the kids. So some good things. Fingers crossed it can be maintained. I think teenage daughter is feeling a little empowered - after she saw me speak up about dog and things happened, she has spoken up about other things and got some results.

Great news guys. Sorry to hear that dear Roy is still at AWL nswgrey. Do you want to make him his own thread on here? I might have some photos somewhere and can do it if you like?

Awww. Warm and fuzzies.... :D

Will certainly let you know if I hear anything Kirty! Fingers crossed! Did you send Gillbear a PM for the details?

Thanks all. Much appreciated. Diva you got it - poor dog is a product of his environment alright. Yes, dog is in ACT. Attack is not as comprehensively defined in the ACT Act as in NSW, but I think this was pretty cut and dried. Although no skin broken the biting and grabbing was still there. Possibly lucky my flapping long cardigan copped it instead of my arms (which I had up out of reach). Update. Contacted rangers this morning. They were very, very good. They asked what outcome I was seeking and I said I hoped they could talk to the owner and assess whether he is willing or able to make suitable adjustments to dog's training, socialisation and confinement. I talked about the dog's lack of training and socialisation, and him being alone with the kids so potentially protective. I also made mention of him being important to the kids, but that father may not understand the potential problems his behaviour could lead to. They visited within hours, poor teenage daughter was home so was expecting it. They spelled out the potential offences involved, unregistered dog, dog attacking on private property, dog attacking on public property, dog not under control etc etc. They have asked for the father to contact and there will be ongoing interaction. Dog has been assessed by vet and I don't know the outcome of that. Hopefully at minimum some worming and better feeding. I don't know yet what will be the outcome for him. Of course father blamed me when it was all relayed to him. This is the disappointing part - there won't be learning on his part. But I think there is other intervention going on with kids and stuff, so he may be a little under pressure. Which in this case I think is a good thing. I think older daughter may be starting to accept that situation is untenable in so many ways. Possibly the fact that I have stood up and reported, and action has been taken, might help her gain some courage to stand up and ask for help in other ways. She understands that the dog is not necessarily at fault, but his living conditions aren't good enough, and he is not a happy well adjusted dog.

I haven't heard anything but will see what I can find out.

Son seems to support reporting it Ruby. I think he's worried the girlfriend will blame herself, but keeps telling her it's not hers, or even the dog's fault. Which I thought was pretty perceptive. I think I'll ring the rangers in the morning and see what they want to do. Thanks guys for letting me bounce thoughts off you all.

He was really rattled Ruby - and he missed it, but he could see how shaken I was. And I told his girlfriend that the dog was lucky I didn't have a gun... Whoops... Son doesn't have much time for dog either as he has had to tell it off for jumping on bedridden disabled sister and stealing her food. But he doesn't want the father to blame the girls for what happened which I can understand too.

Which is fine btw - if it saves a kid from being hurt. But just frustrating as there won't be any learning involved.

Unfortunately Aussie I don't think the father would be responsible. He isn't generally - hence the dog being so out of control and the kids alone so much (even the physically disabled one). He won't desex because it costs. I don't think he will pay any fines or costs. The dog is a real barker too and may have had council intervention previously as it's a close suburb. The easy option that would fit his attitude of everything being everyone else's fault would be for him to put the dog down. Then blame me or anyone else.

The first two glasses of wine went down mighty fast HW when I finally got home!! It was a long and shaky drive... No holes in cardigan - it's pretty stretchy! W Sibs I agree, I do still think I have to report it. If a kid had been grabbed, even just in amongst such an intense display, I don't think I'd forgive myself. I was amazed he didn't find another dog owner when he ran off as there are usually people out and about with little fluffies etc in the late afternoon. But you nailed it Diva - the poor little girl thinks the world of him. But I don't think they have much love in their lives unfortunately.

Oh Felon... :love: