Odin-Genie

He's a baby! His coat needs time to develop - to me he looks like he will have a beautiful wavy coat with paler cream weathering and a nice mid gold back and ears! Come going us in the Sub Breed Forum in the Retriever thread! haha , i found what your guys was talking about, i'm reading that retriever thread now, very good thread!~ PS there are some piccies of fluffies you pup's age that are just as leggy and gangly looking! I read somewhere that goldens that have the 'field' line in them tend to be taller, leaner with thinner coats. Does anyone here know anything about it?

Sorry i'm all new to this forum, didn't know there's a golden thread too, haha. so i think my golden won't have as long coat as other goldens. Hi, My goldy is skinny too compared to other goldens I see, and she has a thinner coat as well. But her energy levels are fine. She eats well, so I am not too worried. She is purebred with full pedigree papers. But she looked exactly the same as your puppy when she was that age. In fact, quite a few people used to ask me if she was a goldy x lab. Now, at 2 years, she looks like a proper goldy, but with a thinner and softer coat.

Same here. I can take bones out of my dogs' mouths. This is a relief since I have sometimes found chicken bones from KFC thrown around after soccer matches at the oval So if my dogs ever pick up one of these, I simply put my hand in their mouth and take it out with a leave command. However, at home if I need to take their bone away, I always do it with a treat. That what my dogs' trainer had suggested when they were puppies to avoid any resource guarding issues.

I agree with Erny here. There are many houses with large front yards, but tiny back yards. This would seriously affect those who don't have the option of moving out due to these laws. I don't think it's fair that just because some people have flimsy fences and allow their dogs to roam, all dog owners should have to bear the brunt of these laws. What comes next? If someone walking by the road feels threatened because my dog is sitting by the window and looking out, I'll have to move my dog away from the front section of the house? What if neighbours feel threatened because my dog is in the backyard? Should dogs be removed from the backyards as well? I don't like where this is going. There should be high fines for roaming dogs to stop those who aren't responsible. There should not be greater restrictions on dog ownership. Where I live, there are quite a few dogs in the front yards. The fences are secure. They bark when I cross their houses while walking my dogs. But the barking is not vicious. I never feel threatened and it doesn't bother my dogs either.

Yep, that's pretty much what we go through here too. I find if I can get to Sasha before she gets over excited (whether that means bringing her inside or into the garage) she will remain fairly calm, sometimes even go to sleep (although if the thunder explodes loudly she may raise her head ). If I'm too late, and the crazy dog has kicked in, it will take a good 15 minutes or so to calm her down, get her to stop pacing and relax. Not sure if anyone else has tried it, but giving them a massage to distract them is VERY useful!!! Can settle them very quickly Same here. If I can give Odin a few drops of Thunderpetics 15 minutes before the storm hits and play classical music, he doesn't react. But if I fail to do that, then it takes a while to calm him. He does relax if I give him a massage, but I try not do that in case it reinforces his fear of thunder. What works really well is a raw bone. If I give him a bone, no amount of thunder can budge him

Hey, that's an interesting point. How would temperament affect noise sensitivity? Would it have anything to do with what the dog was bred for, ie hunting dogs need to have sharper hearing so they are likely to be more sound sensitive? You've seen Odin. He's such a happy dog most of the times. But he reacts really badly to thunder. I have to keep checking the weather forecast all the time to ensure he's ok during thunder. How did you manage your thunder-phobic dogs?

I have a dog that reacts badly to thunder. He doesn't try to hide under the table. Instead, he wants to run out and bark at the sky. I usually manage it with classical music and a few drops of Thunderpetics. However, my other dog who has been been with my older dog since she was a puppy, doesn't react to thunder at all. She usually just looks bored. I read somewhere that dogs that react badly to thunder usually have more sensitive ears. Some dogs just can't stand the sound of thunder and their reaction can be managed but not cured. Other dogs would not react at all. I would be keen to know if anyone has actually stopped a thunder-phobic dog from reacting to thunder completely.

I can't tell who is alpha either. Genie usually takes away any toy Odin is playing with (in a playful manner) and Odin let's her do that. However, when we are in the dog park, Genie follows Odin everywhere. They never try to take food from each other or try to dominate each other in an obvious way. If I had to pick one I would probably say Odin is the dominant one who doesn't wish to dominate (if that makes sense).

I would say your dog is whining because she knows she would get her meal soon. I used to feed at approx the same times as you and then my dog started barking at me because he knew food was coming. Now there is no set feeding schedule. They get fed at different times every day. They generally get fed twice but probably once a week I will only feed once a dayk (feed more for that one meal). Now I have no problems with barking or demanding to be fed. If the whining is an issue for you I'd give this a go. Thanks keisha. That's probably it. Her whining is not an issue. It's really soft. But she sounds so pathetic that I was wondering if I was starving her

I have wondered about this too. My dogs get fed twice a day, at 6.15 am and 8.00 pm. However, my goldy starts whining about 20 minutes before meal time and quietens only after she has had her meal. We ignore her and give her the meal at specific times. But I do wonder if she is whining because she's terribly hungry, or because she knows she would get her meal soon. My other dog has no issues.

I haven't crate trained either of my dogs. However, I used a puppy pen initially and later cordoned off a section of the rumpus room (so it was like a large crate for them). Toilet training was basically taking them out every few hours and waiting till they did their business. Then praise and a treat. When we have people over who are scared of dogs or plumbers etc who need to work without dogs bothering them, we simply put the dogs in the bedroom or the rumpus room and close the door.

Bumping this to check if any other goldy owners or other dog owners have seen this. I am assuming by the general lack of response that this is not a common occurance.

Hi, My two year old goldy seems to shed the top covering of her nails. Sometimes a whole layer comes off in the shape of her nail. I've never seen this before. Is this normal? She is due for her annual check up next month, but do I need to consult a vet before that? She's otherwise healthy and there is no bleeding/soreness in her paws. But her nails don't look very strong.

My two are mostly inside so no fuss when we leave. We just give them a cuddle and leave. That's their nap time anyway so they look up and promptly go back to sleep.

My dogs are fed Artemis Maximal (which is grain free). They love it and are doing really well. However, I don't feed just the dry food. They also get BARF patties, fruits and raw bones.

Does that happen with frozen bones too? I sometimes give my dogs frozen bones on hot days. Should I thaw it first?

Selective breeding is how most of them came about, NOT cross breeding. This is a misconception most people have. Purebreds did not start out being different breeds that were crossed with each other to make different purebreds. They started out as purebreds who were selectively bred to set desirable traits which were then carried on down the generations. Here is the origin of one of today's purebreds (From the GR Club of America website): Golden Retriever: Dudley Marjoribanks, (later known as Lord Tweedmouth) mated a yellow Wavy-Coated retriever with a Tweed Water Spaniel (a breed now extinct) between 1868-1871. This resulted in several yellow pups that became the foundation for a distinctive line of yellow retrievers. Descendants of this mating were combined with wavy and flat-coated retrievers, another Tweed Water Spaniel, and a red setter. The breed was officially recognized by The Kennel Club in 1911 as "Retriever- Yellow or Golden" and finally, "Retriever- Golden" in 1920. To me, this definitely sounds like cross breeding, not just selective breeding within a breed. why? Because a Red Setter, a Wavy-coated Retriever and a Tweed Water Spaniel are different breeds. The definition of selective breeding within a breed would be to select traits within a breed that are desirable and breeding those. Where three different breeds are used, that should fall under cross breeding.

Selective breeding is how most of them came about, NOT cross breeding. This is a misconception most people have. Purebreds did not start out being different breeds that were crossed with each other to make different purebreds. They started out as purebreds who were selectively bred to set desirable traits which were then carried on down the generations. Here is the origin of one of today's purebreds (From the GR Club of America website): Golden Retriever: Dudley Marjoribanks, (later known as Lord Tweedmouth) mated a yellow Wavy-Coated retriever with a Tweed Water Spaniel (a breed now extinct) between 1868-1871. This resulted in several yellow pups that became the foundation for a distinctive line of yellow retrievers. Descendants of this mating were combined with wavy and flat-coated retrievers, another Tweed Water Spaniel, and a red setter. The breed was officially recognized by The Kennel Club in 1911 as "Retriever- Yellow or Golden" and finally, "Retriever- Golden" in 1920. To me, this definitely sounds like cross breeding, not just selective breeding within a breed.

Enjoy......

well the jump up seems to be the biggest problem so far! Need a jumping up support thread and diary!! Ha ha I noticed that too. My goldy is now mostly under control (she will be two next month) so I guess it was a lot of puppy excitement too. Issue is I absolutely love dogs jumping on me, I love the hugs. So I do miss that!!

I chose the following: Jumping up on people: this used to be a big problem with my goldy (Genie) but we have been working on it and it has significantly reduced. Now she does it probably once or twice a month. Stealing food: Since my dogs have access to the kitchen during the day when we aren't there, and Genie can reach the kitchen counters easily, we can't keep any food, plastic containers etc outside. Recall: Genie has good recall, but Odin doesn't. We are working on it and it has improved.

None of my dogs cried when they came home. Odin started playing the moment he got home, had a good dinner and promptly went to sleep We had set him up just outside our bedroom in a puppy pen. I had put lots of soft toys in the pen. But tiring them is a good idea. Genie slept next to Odin when she arrived. She did not cry either.

Erny I said yes to this. The reason being that it will help give a more accurate picture of bite statistics. Yes, you will still get breed bias to some degree when it comes to identifying the breed responsible, but it will capture the incidents of owners' dogs biting family members a lot better than currently recorded when people go to the emergency dept of hospitals. With a lot of dog bites people tend to go to their GP and that data is lost. It is possible that it will help balance some of the media hype surrounding dog bites. I understand, Grumpette. That's why I deliberated about it. But, as the survey was going to kick me out if I didn't complete it in 15 minutes (because it had sat static), I answered "No". My reasoning behind this is that EVERY dog bite stat recorded is a nail in dogs' coffins and there are many a times when the bite does not equate to an aggressive dog. For example, a dog who suffers a pencil being thrust down its ear cannal by a child; a dog who I might have worked with for the very reason that it was a bit snappy (leadership) and before behaviour modification had the opportunity to be effective, snapped me and caught my hand or whatever - I'd class that as "my fault" and whilst I might need a stitch or two, would not class that as something the dog or dogs in general should be tainted with. Another example would be one from when my own boy was a titchy pup with needle point sharp teeth. He and I made the mistake of heading for a crash course (accidentally). It was only an accident that his mouth was open as he went for a toy. It was only an accident that I bent down in his 'line' and his tooth caught my lip. It opened it up but fortunately didn't need stitches. If it did, then this potentially would have had to have been reported as a "dog bite" if this law was in. I possibly wouldn't mind as much if we could have the equivalent of stats which indicated when dogs have been good - maybe that would weigh the balance a bit better. I answered "No" to this as well for the same reasons. If all dog bites have to be reported, it would be the dog that would suffer the consequences, whatever the situation may be. It should be up to the individual.