Everythings Shiny

It does! I have a working breed who has pretty high drive but even she settles when needed. I'm not sure what else to suggest but all the best with it, must be so stressful for you all. To be honest, I've often said I think she is on something. And I honestly think this is why she was at the pound. Watching her run around all day non stop is exhausting for me!

Mixeduppup - we took her to working dog days on sheep and she would pay attention for five minutes then do her own thing, the trainers were surprised at her lack of want to work for a dog so hyper. We haven't tried tracking at this stage, I don't think there is a group around here that do it. Something I did forget to mention at this point in time, taking her away to clubs a great distance from me (ie the closest tracking club I think is over 2 hours away) is not doable due to the fact I work 6-7 days per week currently. Dogmad - I'll look into that - thanks! Megan - Bark busters guy we got was a qualified and recommended by my co-worker (a vet) after Rob failed. Stabler is the equivilant to Steve in this area.

Nawnim - have tried all sorts of diets - especially low allergens like Z/d and RC's hypoallergenic - no difference. Poodle mum - it was a fair while, she has only recently come off the clomicalm (this issue has been going on for over three years now) and she was on that for ages. Most were a minimum of three months. I can't remember exactly how long as there have been so many trialled, but both Stabler and her vets were of the opinion the trials had been long enough.

We have struggled and failed to teach her to settle, I've followed the threads in the training section and tried so many different things, but she honestly reminds me of and extreme ADHD child. Her age is unknown, we thought maybe 3 when we got her, but her face has gone very gray over the last year or so, so she could be anywhere up to 8 or 9 (Diesal is 8 and for a kelpie is in amazing condition aging wise). Vets have guestimated a range of between 5-10 years old. Maybe if she took an interest in service work, maybe she'd be suitable? I don't know

Getting her to focus is hard, No one has managed to get her to do it. When she sits, she literally looks like she's convulsing she shakes that hard. I've tried an e-collar (that was the static one) and she out smarted it I don't know if the treadmill would work, she has been out running literally all day fast paced with us on the horses and she is still a complete lunatic at the end of the day. I'll see if I can find a cheap one and try it though.

So do I Jed, thank you for your suggestion though :) I knew I'd forgotten something in there! I don't want to make the decision to have her PTS as I love this dog dearly, I am just at my wits end

We have tried working her, she's not interested, and it doesn't seem to wear herself down at all. We did try her at agility - again - no interest, much rather chasing everyone around

So long story short. I have a kelpie rescued from a pound three or so years ago, Serenity-Jayne is a beautiful, affectionate and mostly obedient dog. However, she has quite a few bad habits which I can't shake her out of. She has seen two behaviourists (Rob Stabler and Bark Busters) and both have tried and failed to sort her out. Bark Busters gave us some training ideas to do with her, which worked in the short term, but in long term due to time constraints, they've not been a long term solution. Rob Stabler prescribed Clomicalm and a few others, didn't work. My co-workers have tried valium, and many other drugs to try and settle her down, nothing has worked. When we first got her she was fantastic, she was our first foster dog, and I fell in love with her, but now I'm starting to get to the point I don't know what to do, I've questioned whether there is anything more I can do, and I've had several collegues tell me I have one option remaining, euthanasia. Serenity's biggest problem is she is hyper. I've tried everything to wear her out. I've taken her mustering cattle so she was running around all day, she came home and still circled and barked and fought with the other dogs. She isn't toy orientated, food is her only true motivation. She barks from sun up to sun set, tries to make the other dogs play by barking in their faces. My older girl hates it, so she rolls the lip and then the fights start. I've seperated Serenity from the others, and currently she is locked in a run when I'm at work and gets to come out with me while I'm feeding up. I can't give her free run of the yard as she has attacked the geese before and I can't risk her injuring Paige again (She almost punctured Paige's eye in a previous fight). Paige will not fight back, she has been caught in this situation before and wont defend herself, my other dog, Diesal generally breaks up the fight if I don't get there in time. Serenity has had a go at him several times, but as he is the biggest dog (she is the smallest), he goes back at her and she backs off. I had a big yard built for her to play with the other dogs in, she circles the yard so much she has created a path, and has created a huge dip in the ground where the path is, to the point the dirt is now covering part of them fence. I used to get her to run with my older dog who is ball orientated, but Paige is too old and arthritic now to be doing this for long periods of time. When Paige has had enough, Serenity gets in her face and barks non-stop until she goes again, Paige gets cranky and tells her to back off, then Serenity starts to fight. We've tried all the bark collars in the world, nothing stops her, she works out how they run and outsmarts them. The static collars beep before going off, so she barks once, hears the beep, stops, waits, then goes again. Once the battery is dead and it stops beeping, she gets straight into it. She loves citronella, it made her bark worse! I'm lost on what to do, my mum used to love my little Serenity, but now she has come to hate her because of all this drama she is causing. I can't get her debarked, I've tried to have it done, but council wont put the nuisance order on her as my neighbour is hardly home during the day, and she is quiet of a night. Any ideas would be great!

Debarking requires a lot of work to be done before the proceedure. I've looked into it for a chronic barker I have. Firstly a nuisance order must be placed on the dog. Secondly all other avenues (behaviourists, bark collars etc) must be tried and proof of this given to council Then a stat dec must be filled in stating all the above has been tried and failed, then they may ask you to try other things first, then they may give you the paperwork that the vet will ask for to have it done. I then rang around looking at prices, SASH quoted upwards of $5000, another vet quoted $1000~. I still had to have all the above done first though I've given up now, we've had behaviourists, we've done the collars etc and I still can't get council to place the nuisance order on her! Good luck with it :)

Well I brought Buddy up at a staff meeting at work with our Area Manager in attendance and we are creating a grooming protocol to ensure this never happens in one of our practices ever. I've never seen any of my coworkers do this, but I wanted to ensure that this serves as a reminder to us all that negligence can cause devastating consequences, not only to someone's beloved pet, but to the person who owns such a beautiful animal. Every single staff member here was beyond horrified as I told them what had happened. No one could fathom how it has happened Caz, every single staff member here wanted me to send you huge hugs and our best wishes and the promise that this will never happen here. We're all sending our best thoughts to you in this difficult time. *hugs*

Most of the longer blades will look a little choppy so don't be too worried when you do it :)

Decent clippers probably around the $200 mark for Wahl, dearer for Osters (They're the only ones I've used.)

We currently have: Dogs: Serenity - Jayne Diesal Paige Jimmy Smooch (Was Smokey when we first got him) Horses: Oliver (AKA The Hood - which is his rego name pending approval) Abby (Royal Illusion - pending approval) Calleigh (High Priestess - pending approval) Jesse James (Ambaura Jesse James) Bailey (Jokers Kat) Shorty - no rego name for him as he is a first cross. Isabelle - we call her Belle though Birds - only naming a few as we have so many Bella Harmony Elena Siena Caroline Rogue Princeton Rosalie Holly Nerd Santana Rocky Grassy S***head Ella Cows Bub Samara (I call her Sami though) Suzie Tango Savannah Blair Subi Nikita Rambi Jethro Our naming theme is generally tv character related. A few came with their names (Isabelle, Shorty, Jesse), the others I've named, a select few my mother has named (Smooch, Suzie and Bub) At least not many of mine are on the list! I like mine being a little off kilter!

ActiVet Carlingford does heaps of different things from Holistic medicine, acupuncture, chiro etc.

Bova does compounding but is dearer in some drugs. LM - it does come in 2.5 mg - its a 42 pack, but works out much cheaper in the long run. What a vet here has done is get the 5mg and split it for the 2.5mg dose, which gives you even longer use of the pack :)

Ask if they can get Vetace in, its cheaper, same drug etc. Fortekor has gone up recently and our clinic has many seniors with senior pets. See how you go

He's too cute!

RIP Buddy Caz if you need anything, please let me know *hugs*

Oh Caz! I'm so sorry to hear of this.... how can people be so careless RIP Buddy

no Priya was not misstreated, she was a working dog, I meant Ricki the kelpie I have Priya is doing very well btw, she is so lovely and now in process learning agility she is doing quite good hearding, I went and watched her a few months ago Yay! Glad she's going well! I was confused for a minute LOL. You've done a good job :)

That wasn't Priya was it Chezy?

We were with Insuranceline for many years and have just terminated both policies due to them jacking up our older dog's premium by almost 50%. WE contacted them and they told us it was because the dog was 'old', we expected it to go up, but we weren't expecting it to go up by that much.

if they arent going to be swimming I'd use scallibor or the preventic collar.

I've gotten in trouble for asking people to control their dogs before. I had one case yesterday were a family brought in their three mix large breed dogs, two of which hate each other and started having a fight, I asked them to wait outside and seperate the two fighting dogs (we have a spot outside for people to sit) and the family then put in a complaint about me, grrrr!

We were with Insuranceline, we've dropped both our dogs from their books as they almost double mum's older dog's premium. Apparently it's because he turned 11.