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My lil kelpie's are hopeless with working. Serenity would rather be snuggled with me on my bed then be out working the cattle etc Everytime I do some cattle work on the horse she manages to either get under the horses feet or under the cows lol

This girl needs punishing severely, I don't care who she is, how old she is etc. These puppies had a life and would have had a mother who loved and cared for them. This girl is sick and disgusting and she needs punishment. A slap on the wrist will not cut it here... I don't care what their reasons were or why they did it. They have since worked out that this was filmed in Bosnia... and they have identified the girl, they haven't identified the filmer however. I hoe karma punches these two in the face

The people behind interceptor don't recommend splitting it as they wont get an even dose every time they get it, at least thats what they told us at work.

visceral hemangeosarcoma patients have a poor prognosis no matter what you do... they are such a nasty cancer and are so agressive... it's probably one of the worst canine cancers out there IMHO My boss says if you dog is lucky enough to get past the two months stage with this type of cancer, they are very lucky. There's nothing known that can prevent this which is the hardest part

Let us know how Mars goes

Yeah, my practice has a couple of vets studying oncology under one of the writers of the letter I posted. They had a major discussion about it and the main concern about this drug is why the company Qbiotics wont let a clinical trial go ahead... seems a little suspicious to us. But hopefully something good comes out of this

Just letting everyone know that the dog that got caught yesterday in the kong died a few hours ago. The owners were getting ready to put her to sleep but she couldn't cope with the shock of what happened to her and went in her sleep. RIP sweet girl May you be in a better place

Very true. I'd be talking to the vets sooner rather than later. I'll try and find the photo's at work of a 2 year old dog who ended up with really bad jaw problems cuz of his retained baby teeth.

^very true My boss had seen that happen so he made sure all staff helped clients pick the correct size Kong for their pet before rini got injured I feel sorry for the owner of this latest dog. Apparently these owners are the best ones you could ask for, always bringing the dog in if the slightest thing was wrong or they had any concerns at all. Normally, they apparently supervised the dog with her kong, but something happened yesterday whilst they were watching her with their young child. A matter of 20-30 minutes later and now their pet is facing an uncertain future. My friend whose hospital it happened at, told me late last night that after the vet spoke to a specialist surgeon in Sydney said that with the amount of damage to the mouth, the chances of saving her are very slim. They've done some x-ray's last night which showed 8 fractures of the lower jaw. Very sad day for these owners

Its a retained baby tooth. If he's getting desexed the vet should be able to remove it easily enough for you. We see lots of little white fluffy's with retained teeth

Here it is: A new cancer treatment in animals (EBC-46) derived from a North QLD rain forest tree was originally promoted in tv programs in Oct 2009 and then again in June 2010 (although no scientific data has been released during that time) No data regarding this compound has be published in the scientific literature at any time. THe information that the company Ecobiotics (via their subsidiary Qbiotis) has posted on their website claims of efficacy in treating cancers in mice, horses, dogs and cats with only minimal discomfort. The mechanism of action of cancer killing is not clear, but is postulated that direct injection into the tumour may stimulate neutriphils to eradicate cancer. The anecdotal descriptions we have heard from veterinarians that have used EBC-46 vary and include necrosis of the tumor creating and open wound sometimes accompanied by significant pain, and often followed by regrowth of the tumour from the periphery, this implies corrosive activity rather than a specific anticancer mechanism. although Ecobiotics claims cancer cures in patients with otherwise unmanageable cancer, there is little long-term follow up, little clear information regarding the pets disease status or previous treatments tried, and toxicity has not apparently been assessed in any cohesive manner. the Qbiotics website states there has been a "lack of significant effects or adverse events". However we know of at least one dog with a live tumour that was treated in November 2009 with EBC-46 (under direction from Ecobiotics). although the amount of the drug was less than the recommended dose, the patient died during the injection and could not be revived. This event has not been reported by Ecobiotics in their most recent media release or through their website, although they now list liver cancers as one of the sites to avoid treatment. This case and several other patients we know of with marked toxicity that was reported to Qbiotics, casts not doubt as to the completeness of the company's reporting. The CEO of Ecobiotics was contacted to see if we could help with a properly desigtned clinical trial but this offer was refused. Whenever a "cure for cancer" arises it raises flags. We feel it is appropriate for veterinarians as highly trained professionals whose first concern is the well-being of our patients and all animals with cancer, to be wary when a research group wants to treat patients without a significant body of toxicity data, and chooses to announce trial "results" in the lay press rather than through the scientific literature. Marketing directly through the lay media is of concern, as we feel it takes advantage of worried pet owners fears and hopes. in addition, there appears to be an effort to avoid the same level of scrutiny just because the patients are animals and not humans. This is doing injustice to the veterinary profession as well as to the pets we care for. Finally there is an implication that current "traditional" cancer treatment is ineffective and associated with unacceptable side effects. Veterinary oncology is currently practices with the highest regard for quality of life, surgery, chemotherapy, and radiotherapy are all tailored to ensure these treatments are effective and yet provided with minimal side effects in the vast majority of patients. the animals treated with EBC-46 have, according to the Qbiotics website and media releases, been pets that have "untreatable diseases". Some of the patients we know of (including those shown on the website) certainly had the potential to respond to, and in some cases had the potential for cure with, established therapies such as surgery, radiation therapy or chemotherapy. PLant derived materials do have potential for cancer treatment; in fact some of the most effective and well-established chemotherapy drugs used in veterinary (as well as human) oncology are derived from plants. However, enormous amounts of careful research and evaluation needs to be done before efficacy can be established. Since the USA National Cancer Institute initiated a screening program for plant-derived antitumour agents in the 1960's, more than 100,000 compounds have been screened but only seven plant derived anticancer drugs have received Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval for clinical application. A critical part of the necessary evaluation of a new drug is a carefully designed clinical trial. A rigorous clinical trial is the only way to provide the evidence of safety and efficacy which is required by regulatory authorities for the approval of drugs, and should withstand the process of peer-reviewed for publication in veterinary and medical journals. Treating individual cases without the framework of an appropriate study design can contribute useful early information but it constitutes a pilot study, not a clinical trial. For example, the American Cancer Society evaluates cancer treatment methods by asking three questions: 1) Has the treatment been objectively demonstrated in the peer-reviewed scientific literature to be effective? 2) Has the treatment shown potential for benefit that clearly exceeds the potential for harm? 3) Have objective studies been correctly conducted under appropriate peer review to answer these questions? Our concern regarding EBC-46 is shared by the Cancer Council of Australia. In June 2010, this group sounded a note of caution on the media releases, saying the company had not yet published its research. "We have yet to see the results of this research published in a significant journal, where they would be subject ti independent scientific scrutiny, which is useful determining the rigour of the research,"chief executive Ian Olver said in a statement. "...it is far too early to be able to class this as a breakthrough." EBC-46 has not undergone the testing and scrutiny for saftey and efficacy that is required to enter clinical veterinary practice. Until such time as controlled clinical trials can be performed that ensure that pets are not likely to be harmed by this treatment, we cannot endorse this product. The undersigned veterinarians have had extensive experience in designing and performing clinical trials, both in Australia and overseas, and we strongly urge our fellow veterinarians to wait for complete evaluation of any compound before recommending it for their patients. Signed Anthony Moore : BV SC, MV Sc: (Oncology) Adjunct Professor, University of Sydney, Director Veterinary Oncology Consultants Angela Frimberger V MD (Oncology) Adjunct Senior Lecturer, University of Sydney, Director Veterinary Oncology Consultants. Rodney Straw BV Sc - Specialist small animal surgeon (oncology), Director of Brisbane Veterinary Specialist Centre, Executive Director of The Australian Animal Cancer Foundation. Peter Bennett BV Sc (Oncology and Internal Medicine) - Specialist in Veterinary Oncology and Small Animal Internal Medicine - Director Melbourne Veterinary Cancer Care, Senior Fellow Univeristy of Melbourne Adjunct Senior Lecturer Massey University. Valerie Poirier DV M, (Oncology and Radiation Oncology) Specialist in Veterinary Oncology Peter Best BV Sc - Specialist in Veterinary Anaesthesia After a lengthy discussion at our vet practice, until more work is done on this we are not recommending it to anyone... not one of our staff would even contemplate using this in our own animals, let alone recommending it to the general public. Hope this info is helpful for everyone :D ETA: This was written very recently, there is no clinical trials in place as of yet

I'm not so convinced on this drug after reading a letter to the editor of the Veterinarian Magazine. I'll try and find it and type it up here

talk to your vets re revolution - our clinic now can split packs as the company has recently made it possible.

Not any more lol (just removed the squeaker!) I'm always hesitant with toys and my dogs

We have sent the information onto Kong, 4 months on and still awaiting their response. My Boss has even contacted KONG. He believes that an older dog would be fine with the appropriate size kong as their teeth are worn down. Rini is only a young dog which is why she got it caught up. My dogs are now entertained with some heavy duty squeaky toys.... no chance of bits falling off, getting mouths stuck on it or choking on it.

Our clinic has refused to sell them after Rini's incident as she is terribly loved by everyone at work. My friend email'd me the photo's of this poor dog, they are so terrible I'm not comfortable putting them up on here.... the poor dog's face is half ripped off! My friend sms'd me and said that the owners are considering Euth now as the damage to the mouth might be too expensive for them to fix... I'm going to be ringing the comapny again tomorrow and blasting them for not getting back to me

Just bumping this thread for the newbies plus another incident that unfolded today at my friends vet clinic Another dog (making this three this year that I've heard of) got a Kond stuck on her jaw (the same way rini did) Owners tried removing it themselves causing massive damage to the mouth - ripped out the teeth on the bottom of the jaw and fractured the jaw as well.... Owners still didn't get the Kong off. The dog did enough damage to herself as she has shredded her face to pieces trying to get it off. Brought her into my friends work and after a long surgery had the Kong removed- Owners are now crossing their fingers that she pulls through okay... she appeared to have lost a lot of blood from the face. Now I really really hate KONGS!

Maybe try the larger furminator for the sheltie? We have each size at work in the grooming box and off memory we used the largest one on a Saint bernard x who's coat was terribly thick

I agree with poodlefan on this one

What breed is she? Has she done anything like falling over etc of late?

malaseb is great for that type of condition.... we are seeing so much of it of late with this wet weather... so many dogs are going on home on malaseb to help get rid of it.

the only injection i've heard of is for Cats only and is extremely expensive.

^Agreed We have a dog in at work at the moment who was put in a laundry about the same size and still managed to get herself into trouble... hopefully she behaves herself

*hugs* In that case sounds like it doesn't really matter what you would have done, it probably still would have ended this way.

What was the company you used?