Dame Aussie

$350 is very cheap for a complicated surgery.

In theory my Labrador eats anything and everything. But for some reasons the NylaBone only got her to munch a few times. She gave up quickily as if it's not food and treated it as a toy-only. It's a chicken flavoured, though. So, just be wary your dog may not dive into it. Yeah, neither of mine will touch Nylabones

Yep this!

let's put it logically... people are being fearmongered into removing normal organs from their animals. Normal. Required for maturity, growth and maintenance. Why should you worry your dog has it's testicles any more then your dog has 4 legs, a tail and two eyes? Frankly if vet's are so worried about unwanted puppies they should be more willing to do partial speys and vasectomies that include more then just a quick snippy of the tubes but removal of a length of it to prevent potential rejoining that seems to be the excuse not to do it. Your problem is most vets just repeat what little they're told, and keep parrot fashioning at you until you comply. That's when you find a more logical vet that is willing to see both sides of the coin.

Totally agree Wobbly

Vets can be very one sided when it comes to desexing, just be sure to look at the pros and cons.

The idea that bull breeds have lock jaw is not correct. Studies have shown other breeds have higher bite pressure than bull breeds so to make out as if there is something different about a bull breeds jaw is incorrect. I don't care what each actual word means, we all know we're talking about a myth, a belief that there is something different about the way a bull breeds jaw works. This is not correct. That's all I'm saying on the matter, I don't need to defend science against raving lunatics on a dog forum.

Sorry I meant in two to three weeks time from now. She will have almost finished her season by then. Although as perse said there is probably a similar risk either way, i.e. doing it ASAP or in a few weeks time.

Yeah I'd do this too, how scary. I'm glad she's ok.

Gawd I just caught up with this thread! Wow. Some people are very silly indeed!

Good to hear the bloods are clear staffyluv :) Fingers crossed it was just a turn and you don't see it again.

I agree. Really, when you think about how many dogs are in the country compared to the amount of serious incidents that actually happen, it isn't a great deal. This doesn't excuse it of course, but I do think people can get a bit hysterical about it being a bigger problem than it is. I'd be more worried about getting attacked by a person out on the street, and I would say that the amount of serious attacks on people by other people, greatly outweighs the amount of attacks by dogs. I guess it depends on where you live but the reason I do not walk my dogs around the local streets is because of the sheer number of off lead roaming dogs, the vast majority of which happen to be bull breeds. Unfortunately because these dogs are rarely under control, they are also involved in the majority of attacks in the local area. By attacks I mean attacks on other dogs, and less frequently people. Some of these attacks have resulted in the death of the other dog. Such serious incidents don't happen here on a daily basis, and when they do they are often not reported to council for various reasons, but they happen often enough to make me very wary of where I walk my dogs. Even when walking at the park, I sometimes carry something with me to ward off roaming (or I should say, charging) dogs. It's not hysteria, and it's certainly not OTT. It's about minimising risk, which shouldn't be necessary at all, but unfortunately it is. I hope the victims of the attack in Boronia are able to recover physically and emotionally. No that is not hysterical. I know the problem is bad, my area is shocking too. Some people do get a bit carried away though.

Done :)

Idiot. What hope have we got when supposed experts don't even know what they're on about? Were did you get that the vet said 'lock jaw' from? She certainly did not use that term during this interview. The journo said 'lock jaw'. Were you "ranting" when you made that comment? It did appear you did not like the term used. So to ask what term is acceptable to you does not elicit a reply as to what is. Can you only find the word "dog" or "ranting" in your dictionary? :laugh: I already said accuracy is important. There is no such thing as lock jaw.

Idiot. What hope have we got when supposed experts don't even know what they're on about? Were did you get that the vet said 'lock jaw' from? She certainly did not use that term during this interview. The journo said 'lock jaw'. Absolutely correct. However, on the Seven News Melbourne report, the same Dr Sharee Maas states @ 1'19'' 's/he had a lock jaw so he wasn't going to move his head off that dog. I managed to get a vein and anaesthetise that dog'. http://au.news.yahoo...in-dog-attacks/ Just saying. I just love your thinking. Discuss the correct use of the wording. Completely ignore the fact the bloody dog still had hold of its victum and wouldnt let go until it was knocked unconsious be it by caving its head in with a hammer as happened in a previous case, or in this case a vet was handy to knock it out by injection. Or in the case in England 23 knife wounds later and dying. It still didnt let go until it was unconsious for god's sake Not even interfering humans around it nor the needle being inserted distracted it from its purpose. You people amaze me. What words wont cause you so much distress? Accurate ones. How are you going to define "accurate". What words can you cope with to describe a mammal that does not let go the attacked even while the sedation needle is being inserted and is still hanging on until rendered unconsious? A dog. Ha so the public thinks the vet simply attacked the "dog" with the injection and rendered it unconsious for no valid reason other than it was a dog? Then why didnt she knock out both instead of only one? Joe public would very curious to know the answer to that one. You're just ranting now.

Idiot. What hope have we got when supposed experts don't even know what they're on about? Were did you get that the vet said 'lock jaw' from? She certainly did not use that term during this interview. The journo said 'lock jaw'. Absolutely correct. However, on the Seven News Melbourne report, the same Dr Sharee Maas states @ 1'19'' 's/he had a lock jaw so he wasn't going to move his head off that dog. I managed to get a vein and anaesthetise that dog'. http://au.news.yahoo...in-dog-attacks/ Just saying. I just love your thinking. Discuss the correct use of the wording. Completely ignore the fact the bloody dog still had hold of its victum and wouldnt let go until it was knocked unconsious be it by caving its head in with a hammer as happened in a previous case, or in this case a vet was handy to knock it out by injection. Or in the case in England 23 knife wounds later and dying. It still didnt let go until it was unconsious for god's sake Not even interfering humans around it nor the needle being inserted distracted it from its purpose. You people amaze me. What words wont cause you so much distress? Accurate ones. How are you going to define "accurate". What words can you cope with to describe a mammal that does not let go the attacked even while the sedation needle is being inserted and is still hanging on until rendered unconsious? A dog.

Idiot. What hope have we got when supposed experts don't even know what they're on about? Were did you get that the vet said 'lock jaw' from? She certainly did not use that term during this interview. The journo said 'lock jaw'. Absolutely correct. However, on the Seven News Melbourne report, the same Dr Sharee Maas states @ 1'19'' 's/he had a lock jaw so he wasn't going to move his head off that dog. I managed to get a vein and anaesthetise that dog'. http://au.news.yahoo...in-dog-attacks/ Just saying. I just love your thinking. Discuss the correct use of the wording. Completely ignore the fact the bloody dog still had hold of its victum and wouldnt let go until it was knocked unconsious be it by caving its head in with a hammer as happened in a previous case, or in this case a vet was handy to knock it out by injection. Or in the case in England 23 knife wounds later and dying. It still didnt let go until it was unconsious for god's sake Not even interfering humans around it nor the needle being inserted distracted it from its purpose. You people amaze me. What words wont cause you so much distress? Accurate ones.

I agree. Really, when you think about how many dogs are in the country compared to the amount of serious incidents that actually happen, it isn't a great deal. This doesn't excuse it of course, but I do think people can get a bit hysterical about it being a bigger problem than it is. I'd be more worried about getting attacked by a person out on the street, and I would say that the amount of serious attacks on people by other people, greatly outweighs the amount of attacks by dogs.

Idiot. What hope have we got when supposed experts don't even know what they're on about?

Great. Sounds good.

Yes, because someone starts bagging out a breed as a whole.

Nawwww look at her, that's gorgeous :)

I agree it's a choice each individual makes and what suits one may not suit another but I think it's dangerous and incorrect to say that desexing is a cure for behavioral issues.

Thanks skyefool, great advice

Yep, any dog approaching us gets stamping feet and yelling and if it still approaches it will get a kick. This has stopped any dogs trying to have a go at us.