Dame Aussie

God people are Best of luck with getting him a new home

It's crap isn't it? I hope pup's ok. We have been rushed at so many times by wandering dogs it does my head in, almost every time the dog was not friendly. We just rush back at the dog and it's worked every time, just jump at it and yell if you have to, my OH has said many times he wouldn't hesitate in kicking a dog if he had to. Why can't people just keep their dogs in?! You'd think it was bloody rocket science.

Already clarified lol Yep ..cat castrations are the quickest and easiest of things ! I can't tell over the internet but are you being sarcastic? I don't know why else you would repeat it like that... I don't know, maybe if a dog/cat has to be anesthetized to have it's nails cut that might be a quicker and easier procedure? That's really all I can think of. I've seen the procedure performed in person - and if you're curious, go on youtube - there's heaps of videos there. I've also seen piglets castrated with no anesthetic - they were from an organic, free range farm and without growth hormones they longer to develop so need to be castrated (with hormones they're killed before puberty). It was literally a 30 second procedure, and then piggy was back with his litter mates. They don't even need stitches. If I'm wrong, it would be helpful for you to inform me (and anyone else reading this thread) of why - I'm not sure who benefits from sarcasm? Sensitive much? I can't say I read ANY sarcasm in persephone's post

Lili had a similar reaction to her 16 week vacc. We still gave her a booster but I will be titre testing from now on. I think I would still finish the puppy course, unless she is really unwell. Lili only had a bump, no diarrhea.

I have to agree here, I couldn't imagine crating a puppy/dog for that long! Can the puppy go outside when you're gone for that long? Or be in a laundry or similar area?

I have to agree, how ridiculous, just another bloody restriction :rolleyes:

I've never owned a greyhound, and I don't think this is a good idea. No dog is foolproof and obedience training only goes so far. This to me is just not necessary, I see dogs at cafes near me all the time with no issues? My personal view is that council and government already have their dirty little fingers all over dog ownership and something like this will just restrict more people and their dogs.

I agree, Wylie can probably sense that Loki is getting older and figures he can get away with it. Luckily you were there.

And if that doesn't work, add a little perfume . . . or ammonia . . . depending on you emotional state. I don't really hate cats, but I hate the fact that people think it's ok to let them roam. That's what I'd be doing. It amazes me that it is seemingly ok to let cats wander and harass people/dogs, yet if a dog is wandering it's the end of the world. We have a lot of wandering cats where we live and they often just block our path hissing.....luckily lunging at them has scared them all off so far. Does my head in.

This is my OH too - he yells "PUPPIIEEEEEES!!!!" when he comes in then gives butt rubs and scritches, sometimes gets down on the floor and wrestles with them I'm sure some trainers would have a fit if they saw it :p Yep my OH is ten times worse than me :rolleyes: He sends them into a freakin frenzy same including the OH saying PUUPPIEEEEEEEEESSSS. our lot well the big dally talks sort of whoo whooing... talking not barking and he does a u turn away from you, just once till he's facing which he then repeats to the other direction till he's u turned about 8 or 9 times. they do however calm down very quickly and within minutes they are installed on the couch or laying at my feet while i check emails... Mosley that u turn thing too and the woo wooing

This is my OH too - he yells "PUPPIIEEEEEES!!!!" when he comes in then gives butt rubs and scritches, sometimes gets down on the floor and wrestles with them I'm sure some trainers would have a fit if they saw it :p Yep my OH is ten times worse than me :rolleyes: He sends them into a freakin frenzy

This is me

Yep, ours have this on their tags too

That's been the discussion here today. He and Dusty have been inside now for the past week, while we're at work and they both love it. And they're both very good.......aside from my husband forgetting to empty the rubbish today and leaving it in their reach. They sorted and cleaned it, but they apparently left it in a neat pile. I do have to teach my husband to sweep the floors better though, they leave a LOT of hair on the floor. I'd do the same Gayle, Lili doesn't mind being inside during the day at all, if he seems happy I'd feel much more comfortable leaving him inside where I would know he's safe.

The ones I've met haven't been thick, my favourite ever Bully who used to come into my work was such a gorgeous boy. He would just walk in, stand there, and not even really look at you, just expect pats

That's horrible! So lucky she managed to get him back!

I'm not much help, my dogs go spare when we get home I dont mind it to be honest, I run around the yard WITH them like a loon I think normally the best thing to do is just ignore them until they are calm, it may just take a while before they get it I'm sure more knowledgeable people (who don't run round like a loon with their dogs) will be here soon

Most modern scanners will read all chips but sone of the older ones require a different scanner, this was my experience I'm unsure if it has changed since though. Also it's worth checking the details not just that the chip is in there, as sometimes a chip will read and be registered on a database but have no details attached, this happened quite a lot.

We came across it quite a lot Anne, normally with pups bought from pet stores. Pup 1 was given pup 2's details so both pups were chipped to the incorrect owners. Big mess

This sort of thing really gets to me. I think people involved in these fields really need to know what they're talking about. That kind of flippant arrogance can lead to disaster. Even if they were to utilise a breed chart it would be better than guessing. I regularly scan shelter adoption pages and the number of clear breed misindentifications I see is abominable. How is anyone to find their JRT if it's been labeled a Fox Terrier? I see crossbreeds labeled as staffies, Kelpies labeled as lab crosses (if it's not black and tan with pointy ears it can't be a Kelpie), plain old mutts being labeled as exotic breeds (some that don't even exist in Australia!) . . . it's mystifying. I would hate for my Schipp or my Kelpie to end up in some of these places. I could imagine she'd be a Chihuahua or Pom x and he (boofy headed show line dog) would be called a Shepherd or Lab x. Fortunately, they're not the straying types. However, if they did get out and someone held on to them and if I ever found out who they were I would push for 'theft by finding' and if that didn't work I'd be in touch with my lawyer. I agree with you to an extent, but as someone who has worked in a pound I have to say, about 60% of the dogs that came through where I was working were cross breeds. Pound staff have to make an educated guess a lot of the time. We would have people calling looking for their dog and the only info they could give us was "It's brown". This happened MUCH more often than you would think. We used to tell everyone that they HAVE to come in and look for their dog. It's not enough to just call and then blame pound staff when the dog is destroyed. Yes, some places arent great at breed ID but when you have a cross breed with no ID, what can you do? Also, mistakes will occur, we are humans and we are not perfect and there is always going to be some amount of human error, this is why people need to go in physically. Also in my experience the dodgy breed ID's are much more frequently from Rangers than pound staff. I once had a Ranger with two Chis taking pictures as he was so chuffed to see such small dogs, asking me what they were. It is up to owners to ID their dogs so that when they come into a pound the workers know without question what the dog is. I agree that people who don't have their pets ID are partially to blame. I understand having to guess, though if it is a guess I think it's important to use a variety of descriptors just in case. "It's brown" That would get very frustrating pretty quickly. I hope pound/shelter people always advise people to come in just in case. I think they're fully to blame, who else could be held responsible? Yes, we had to advise everyone that called to come in, many still didn't though. I also hope other places do this too. I'm going to copy and paste my response to another individual who basically said the same thing: You failed to read this in the context of what I was saying. I was talking about widespread breed misidentification in pounds. Yes, obviously people should ID their pets, but given a big function of pounds is to hold and return pets they should really have a system in place that goes some way towards guarding against this misidentification. Educating staff or using ID charts might be helpful. Yep, they do have a system in place but as I said it only works if the dog is pure. Once a dog is crossed it could be anything, even if it looks like something else, breed charts are usless if a dog is a mix. The onus is on the owner, not the pounds.

I always had collars and tags on my dogs unless being bathed but after i almost had one strangled they only wera collars when out htey are microchipped though This. My girls don't wear collars at home, due to the fact that I'm worried about then strangling themselves on the tubular fence by getting their collar hooked in it, plus being coated breeds it ruins their coat. Like you, they are microchipped though. Actually this can happen, my lappie's microchip didn't scan at the vet a few weeks back. Turns out it's moved down her leg slightly so was hard to find. You're right, microchips are missed A LOT. Please do not rely on any form of ID other than looking for your dog at the pound/s. Human error means people can miss them and sometimes they can move down too far and cannot be detected.

Fantastic! Good on them.

This sort of thing really gets to me. I think people involved in these fields really need to know what they're talking about. That kind of flippant arrogance can lead to disaster. Even if they were to utilise a breed chart it would be better than guessing. I regularly scan shelter adoption pages and the number of clear breed misindentifications I see is abominable. How is anyone to find their JRT if it's been labeled a Fox Terrier? I see crossbreeds labeled as staffies, Kelpies labeled as lab crosses (if it's not black and tan with pointy ears it can't be a Kelpie), plain old mutts being labeled as exotic breeds (some that don't even exist in Australia!) . . . it's mystifying. I would hate for my Schipp or my Kelpie to end up in some of these places. I could imagine she'd be a Chihuahua or Pom x and he (boofy headed show line dog) would be called a Shepherd or Lab x. Fortunately, they're not the straying types. However, if they did get out and someone held on to them and if I ever found out who they were I would push for 'theft by finding' and if that didn't work I'd be in touch with my lawyer. I agree with you to an extent, but as someone who has worked in a pound I have to say, about 60% of the dogs that came through where I was working were cross breeds. Pound staff have to make an educated guess a lot of the time. We would have people calling looking for their dog and the only info they could give us was "It's brown". This happened MUCH more often than you would think. We used to tell everyone that they HAVE to come in and look for their dog. It's not enough to just call and then blame pound staff when the dog is destroyed. Yes, some places arent great at breed ID but when you have a cross breed with no ID, what can you do? Also, mistakes will occur, we are humans and we are not perfect and there is always going to be some amount of human error, this is why people need to go in physically. Also in my experience the dodgy breed ID's are much more frequently from Rangers than pound staff. I once had a Ranger with two Chis taking pictures as he was so chuffed to see such small dogs, asking me what they were. It is up to owners to ID their dogs so that when they come into a pound the workers know without question what the dog is. I agree that people who don't have their pets ID are partially to blame. I understand having to guess, though if it is a guess I think it's important to use a variety of descriptors just in case. "It's brown" That would get very frustrating pretty quickly. I hope pound/shelter people always advise people to come in just in case. I think they're fully to blame, who else could be held responsible? Yes, we had to advise everyone that called to come in, many still didn't though. I also hope other places do this too.

This sort of thing really gets to me. I think people involved in these fields really need to know what they're talking about. That kind of flippant arrogance can lead to disaster. Even if they were to utilise a breed chart it would be better than guessing. I regularly scan shelter adoption pages and the number of clear breed misindentifications I see is abominable. How is anyone to find their JRT if it's been labeled a Fox Terrier? I see crossbreeds labeled as staffies, Kelpies labeled as lab crosses (if it's not black and tan with pointy ears it can't be a Kelpie), plain old mutts being labeled as exotic breeds (some that don't even exist in Australia!) . . . it's mystifying. I would hate for my Schipp or my Kelpie to end up in some of these places. I could imagine she'd be a Chihuahua or Pom x and he (boofy headed show line dog) would be called a Shepherd or Lab x. Fortunately, they're not the straying types. However, if they did get out and someone held on to them and if I ever found out who they were I would push for 'theft by finding' and if that didn't work I'd be in touch with my lawyer. I agree with you to an extent, but as someone who has worked in a pound I have to say, about 60% of the dogs that came through where I was working were cross breeds. Pound staff have to make an educated guess a lot of the time. We would have people calling looking for their dog and the only info they could give us was "It's brown". This happened MUCH more often than you would think. We used to tell everyone that they HAVE to come in and look for their dog. It's not enough to just call and then blame pound staff when the dog is destroyed. Yes, some places arent great at breed ID but when you have a cross breed with no ID, what can you do? Also, mistakes will occur, we are humans and we are not perfect and there is always going to be some amount of human error, this is why people need to go in physically. Also in my experience the dodgy breed ID's are much more frequently from Rangers than pound staff. I once had a Ranger with two Chis taking pictures as he was so chuffed to see such small dogs, asking me what they were. It is up to owners to ID their dogs so that when they come into a pound the workers know without question what the dog is.

I don't think any of us "wrote her off", the person who adopted her is the one who is returning her to the pound All we were saying is that she won't have much of a chance at being rehomed as she has bitten someone.