StaffordLUV

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/328493 Dog training expert threatened by BCC after speaking out about Lennox

My link This is US soon Australia!! wake up before its too late. Pitbulls,bulldogs etc may not be your breed but its only a matter of time before its other breeds of dog. RIP Lennox ive followed your story right to the very end :(My thoughts are with your family.

the "just chooks" attitude is a joke! what if i said pfff they are only terriers plenty more of them around, they still make them or the pounds are full of them? That would cause some trouble wouldnt it? I breed chickens also and the amount of time and effort planning and money that goes into my other hobby is on par with what i spend on my dogs. It might not have been a "prize bull" which might have been able to defend itself against marauding dogs btw, but they were someone's pets or livestock.

atm im using treats and praise. She loves to play fetch so sometimes she comes if i throw a chew toy near me, she will come and grab it and bring it to me,

can you discredit any of these? Are you saying GSD HAVEN'T changed for the worst? Are bulldogs the fit dogs they once were? And yes i have met a lot of dogs ;) And i see by your avatar it was probably too close to home ;)

hi all im having difficulty getting my 11 week old stafford pup to come when called. She has an attitude of ill come when im ready or not at all. Sometimes she comes at a running paces and straight to me other times she just sits wherever she is and refuses to come at all and if i go to fetch her she runs off (i dont chase her) And other times she runs towards me and i think YAY shes got it then she runs right by me and takes off in the other direction. Im at a loss as to how i get her to come each and everytime i call. any ideas?

IMO if a dog cant do the job it was breed for (excluding fighting dogs of course) then it has deviated from that breed. The breed standards were created to keep certain characteristics for THAT breed, which includes the dog's original purpose. With the breeding of extreme traits ie short legs,short faces, long coats,over long backs etc some show dogs today simply dont fit their own standard. Modern SHOW GSD for example would simply not be able to perform as a herding animal. Fox Terriers have also changed unable to move properly to chase a fox,deeper chests and far too big to go to ground after fox. cocker spaniels now only fit to mop floors as they would not be able to perform there intended purpose, they have grown in size and coat making them unable to retrieve and flush birds from under low bushes. The bulldog is a sad sad sad example of what show breeders have done to destroy a once full capable and fit breed, its now a dog that has so many problems its almost cruel to keep breeding them. They have breathing issues and breeding issues and any dog that has to be AIed and C section just to keep the breed going should have long died out. Labradors that look like a keg with short legs and deep chests, how the heck is that meant to swim? The Pug- well you hear it before you see it, the poor bloody dog cant enjoy family life, chase a ball with the kids or even go for long walks. Breathing problems out the wahzoo,skin problems,Luxating Patella,Stenotic Nares, eyes that pop out of their damn heads. Luckily they dont really have a "job" to do becasue they would be incapable of anything except sitting around and struggling to breath ;)

i cant see the problem, if you are doing the right thing then nothing to worry about simple. Isnt the closing down of puppy farms and unethical breeders what you all want?

I never expected to see such a controversial statement on this board. However, you express my views perfectly. OMG IT HAS BEEN SAID!!!!!! thankyou for putting my thoughts into words that i failed to find for so long!!

oh and I would be charging you for the cost of replacing the chickens and the price of the ammo used to shot the dogs. ;)

if they had of been my chickens the dogs would have been shot and disposed of, then a notice in the paper or community notice board that any dogs caught killing stock on my property (not just roaming as dogs dont understand the whole boundary thing) would be dealt with in the same manner. I dont care if its a one off or not the fact of the matter is your dogs caused the death ( and a horrid death as well) to other living creatures and should be dealt with in this manner. How was the farmer suppose to deal with 2 hyped up terriers ripping apart is chickens?? A few years ago on my parents farm my neighbours had a beautiful lab that used roam the farms in our area. Countless warnings from farmers failed to deter the owners to keep him locked up, while out by himself he never harmed sheep or chickens but one night while we were visiting mum and dad and camping in the paddocks we heard dogs barking and found the lab and 3 other dogs, a shepherd x and 3 kelpie xs chasing the sheep. A spotlight was quickly found and the dogs shot on the spot. we lost 5 pregnant ewes that night. The next morning the lab was returned to the owners and they had the hide to be pissed my dad had shot him!! he was then asked to pay part of what the ewes were worth. The owners of the other dogs we never found. a friend is currently going thru a similar thing trying to get compensation out of an owner whose dogs killed 25 breeding rats in her avairies. The owner is fighting it saying they are "only rats" we both breed fancy rats and i can tell you they arent "only rats" ALOT of money and time went into breeding the varieties she has now lost. People need to take responsibilty for their dogs. Keep your dogs locked up and this type of thing wont happen again. RIP dogs and RIP chookies.

Bull arabs have been around for a very long time and there are people who only breed BAs and they do breed true. Of there are people that cross them and still call them BAs but the BAs association are setting up a DNA data base to help with that. They dont actually look anything like a pitbull or bull breed the only thing they have in common is the Bull at the front of their name. And that bull terriers played a part in the original founding dogs. They are a wonderful breed and one of the best dogs i have ever owned. I have never met one i didnt like or trust :) I would have to say my girl was simply THE best dog i have ever owned.

i have a deep love for Bull arabs and to be honest i hope they dont become a registered breed, because then people will want to show them and thus another dog down the gurgler as far as function goes

i think to trust the future of dog breeds just to the ANKC is to put all its eggs in one basket and not very wise. And as for charging more for main register puppies that is just plain money grabbing. You breed your dogs to have something yourself to show, then you sell the rest of the litter. If you arent breeding to make money (which everyone claims they arent) then you should just be charging the cost of microchipping,registration, worming and raising a litter. In that sense it cost no more to raise show prospect than it does a pet puppy so why are do main register puppies cost more? As i see it if you breed your dog and get say 7 pups then say 2 show prospect puppies out of the litter after testing etc, you keep 1 of the puppies and have another left but dont have the room to run on the second dog, wouldnt it make sense to have that dog out there somewhere incase something happens to your show prospect? I had this same situation a few years ago and thank goodness i did. As i bred VERY sparingly i would have lost my line completely if i hadnt had my other dog somewhere i could use him. If all dogs went out desexed then i would have been very stuck indeed.

Goodluck Angeluca hope his scores are great :) Your vet seemed to be very eager to fuse your boys hips without a real guarantee that it would work, Thats a lot of money for something that "might" work

:Putting on flame suit: "man this thing is tight must have been a while since i voiced an opinion" :laugh: I was toying with the idea of keeping her whole, i know i can handle it as i used to breed/exhibit other breed but im not sure that im comfortable with having a bitch that we have ZERO interest in EVER breeding complete. I still have all my crates etc so locking her away when she is in season is easy and possible and we never had an "accidental" mating before and seeing we have no entire males here im sure my track record will remain intact. But im just not sure the pros outweigh the cons as far as that goes, i would also have to apply to the local government for permission to keep her entire. She is not registered but both parents were, (she is from the neighbour of a friend) and i though long and hard about purchasing a puppy from a situation like this but i know i have made the right choice and both parents have now been desexed. I guess it is a decision i will make when the time comes.

:laugh: yes Stafford farts are very unique arent they! She also suggested i book the puppy in at be desexed next week (9 weeks old) i said i will be waiting until she is 6 mths old or until my regular vet deems it ok to do. He will be doing the surgery ;) She also handed me a bunch of flyers for doggie classes and puppy preschool as in her words "with such a strong breed i recommend you put her thru obedience classes, they arent the type of dog you can train yourself" At this stage i told her i was experienced with the breed and i was sure i could handle the training. She ok but slipped the flyers in the puppy folder anyway. :laugh:

and because they wont be paying for the operations themselves, the new owners will discard these puppies when it all get to hard or the operations dont work 100%. Raising a puppy with a disability such as this is freakin hard work and while the people might think "oh well if i dont take them they will be put down" maybe that is the kindest and correct thing to do.

lol yeah thanks guys im back to my good old faithful vet from now on, i only used this vet because of limited time during the week i used the closest vet. Lesson learnt. Im sure the young vet is a wonderful vet but i think a bit of an alarmist. I was just wondering if there was something i had missed in the years between having rescue Staffords and bying my new fur-baby.

just a question, how do you know he wants it for fighting? In reality staffies arent high on the list of potential dog fighters.

yep she did, as a preventative incase she ends up with a long soft palate and actually warned me against excercising her to much or long walks as she can overheat and likened her to a pug or other brac. breed.

thanks for the replies. No she doesnt snore or have any other issues with her breathing. My vet said he couldnt see an issue at all but i thought i would ask if anyone else had similar experiences. I mean if it was a problem i can have it fixed when she is desexed.

Hi all i took my new stafford puppy to the vet(not my usual vet) for her vaccinations and the young vet there suggested i have her operated on as sometimes they can have an overlong soft palate that ca cause snoring and other issues later on in life. She said it was best done before 12mths of age. Now i have had a few staffords in my time thru rescue and i have not seen any issues. I have had some that have snored but apart from that they have been fine. I spoke to my regular vet and he said that in the past 7 years he has only operated on 2 staffords for this problem and they had very short muzzles. Im just wondering if anyone has come across this problem? TIA

i think people have the best intentions and they feel bad surrendering them to say the pound or shelter. There of course are people who claim to be doing to best to find the owners and not doing anything at all in hope of keeping the dog. Not sure what the legal side is but i do know dogs are seen as property

hi all im looking for help bringing a staffy bitch (desexed) from newcastle to the ACT in the next few weeks. I know there is some shows done here on the weekend of the 25th and 26th of Feb so if someone had room id love for Hollie to hitch a lift :) I will temp someone with choccies,beer or wine :D TIA