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The impression I got from the guy at the EP stand at pet expo was something to do with supply and demand. Something happend with the last shipment due to the change in packaging and paper work at customs. Should be getting back on track. He assured me none of the ingredience have changed.

Yes I did get them from a different place and did cross my mind, my butcher now has free range carcass. Same size, I always trim the excess fat. No change in eating habbits. He has ground chicken carcass, lamb flaps, BARF patties, Holistic dry a few times a week. MMM maybe because they are from a different butcher.

We have been feeding our grey chicken carcass for 18 months as part of his diet, twice per week. Three weeks ago I gave him one as per usual, 2 minutes later his brings it up. Gave him one tonight same thing. Any thoughts as to why?

We met the Lappies and were introduced to them..They were all lovely . I can't remeber who we spoke with but they were very helpful and a pleasure to chat with.

We went yest, and enjoyed meeting the dogs. One of my favs was the dandie dinmont terrier, and the breeder was lovely. I enjoyed talking to the Am Staff people, the lowchen, cairn terrier and I was impressed with the soft wheaten terrier. Everyone was approachable and loved showing off their breeds. I honestly think there should be more promotions of purebreeds.

Very happy with BH here. Are the 3kg available in Vic?

Lort Smith, don't know if they were surrenders, clients or one of each.

Not sure were the dogs were from. Heard from a friend.

A Melb vet had 2 dogs test possitive for heartworm. With the increase of humidity, water and mozzies everywhere is this something to be concerned about? There has been a massive increase of mixo in pet rabbits due to the increase of mozzies.

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Has anyone had experience in a diet for cushings disease? Home prepared or commercial? All I can find is that the diet should be high in protien, low fiber, low fat and low purine. Food high in potassium such as potatoes with skin on, beans and brocoli.

Heard they have re opened, but don't think they are adopting at the moment.

I am still confused. Apart from the paperwork, is PH an animal shelter or a pet shop from where they rehome animals.

Being a pet shop type set up do they have a quarantine area? Where do the animals go if they come straight from the pound? To me this isn't a shelter I could be wrong.

Where is the shelter? The PH I have been to before the make over was a pet shop with cages out the back.

I love the oldies. I hope she is ok.

I was talked into it 4 years ago and my dog had a mild reaction. Would never do it again or recommend it.

I buy the BARF patties and they inc pork, broccoli, spinach, carrot etc... Once every 2 weeks they get veggie slops with broccoli, spinach and carrot in the mix.

OGAN CITY COUNCIL FAILS ITS DUTY OF CARE TO HOMELESS PETS MEDIA RELEASE 22 November 2010; Non Human Rescue LOGAN CITY COUNCIL FAILS ITS DUTY OF CARE TO HOMELESS PETS PUBLIC RALLY 27 NOVEMBER 2010 NHRO is disappointed to learn of Logan City Council’s decision to continue providing pound pets to Queensland University. Chairperson, Kisha Giannangelo, said today “Abandoned pets in pounds and shelters have already suffered the fear and distress of losing their family/carers and familiar territory. Their use in research and teaching is the ultimate betrayal and as a society we should never condone that.” Students can become compassionate and competent veterinarians without having to kill those they are training to protect. They can gain valuable experience operating under strict supervision on pets that will actually benefit from the surgery, i.e. supervised desexing programs. This way they will also gain experience in observing and monitoring post-operative recovery which is a key component of health care. The fact that veterinary schools in the UK, North America as well as Sydney, Melbourne and WA Universities are able to produce well-qualified veterinarians without relying on terminal surgery labs demonstrates that they are able to achieve the same outcome by more humane means. RSPCA QLD says “we are opposed to providing dogs for non-recovery surgery or for any form of research. (We do allow final year vet students to desex our rehomeable dogs under supervision and they are returned to us for rehoming.) RSPCA encourages the use of alternative teaching methods (replacement) and reduction of numbers (Reduction) by ensuring students do initial practice on cadavers or simulated animals.” Andrew Knight PhD, MRCVS, Fellow, Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics says “Starting as a new graduate vet is an enormously stressful experience. Suddenly, you have full responsibility for the lives of your patients. I’m enormously grateful that I chose not to participate in our terminal surgical labs, and instead gained around 5 times the experience of my conventionally-trained classmates, by assisting with beneficial surgeries, mostly in private clinics and animal shelters. Accordingly, I was much more confident surgically when I graduated, and my patients also benefited from my increased speed and skill. Such outcomes are common. Of 11 published studies, 45% demonstrated superior learning outcomes when vet students used humane teaching methods to learn surgery – partly due to increased ability to customise or repeat learning exercises. 45% demonstrated equivalent learning outcomes, and only one study demonstrated an inferior outcome. Well-designed humane alternatives are indisputably better for students, for the animals they will treat, and for the animals who would otherwise be harmed during veterinary education.” Dr Lisa Elsner BVSc said today “I obtained my veterinary degree without killing any patients in the process – upon graduation I had performed many more desexings than anyone in my year and had the confidence to perform surgeries unsupervised. I learnt by performing the most common surgery a new graduate will perform, desexings of cats and dogs, whilst initially under the supervision of an experienced veterinarian and then on my own – this was done both at welfare shelters and private practices. This not only gave me superior learning to my peers but I also gained an enormous amount of post-surgical experience including monitoring of patients as they woke up and recovered. Qualified vets do not kill their patients after they operate on them so why should vet students be taught this way? Vet students who still take part in terminal surgeries are being denied a full education, that is they are not gaining any post surgical care of their patients as well as being taught that it’s ok to use dogs and then dispose of them. It’s only a matter of time before all vet schools will have to change their outdated ways and eliminate terminal surgeries and start teaching students to respect life and give them that all important post surgical experience which is just as important as the surgery.” “Brisbane City and Moreton Bay Councils no longer supply homeless pets to University of QLD and considering the availability of more humane and pedagogically-sound alternatives, the use of terminal surgery labs is an unnecessary and unethical practice therefore we are staging a Public Rally outside Logan City Council Animal Management Centre at 10am on the 27th November 2010 at 213 Queens Rd Kingston to raise awareness in the community and end this unethical and inhumane practice.” Ms Giannangelo concluded. Pet overpopulation The number of healthy animals euthanized each day due to a lack of suitable homes is a tragedy, but using pound pets is actually creating a dependence on the problem rather than helping to solve it. Queensland University is therefore benefiting from the human irresponsibility and cruelty necessitating pounds.

I don't think vets are allowed to give out chip details I know some will if a stray is handed in and will call the owner. But I'm pretty sure they have to call the ranger.

Bugger, just jumped to $17 del. Tried to order one before work but ran out of time. Thanks for the link to the website. I will order one after xmas.

That made me feel ill.

None of them have been tested for heartworm .

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I cannot support the of selling puppies and kittens in pet shops, never have and never will. It was only today when I was speaking with a lady who bought to poodle crosses from a pet store. She bought them because she felt sorry for them. They are male siblings, they were covered in fleas and full of worms. They are 16 weeks old and and showing signs of odd behavior. They are constantly liking each others private parts. They were sold once and returned.