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LAT is you are marking the dog looking AT the trigger WITHOUT REACTING & the click also acts as an interruptor. The dog pretty quickly picks up the game as long as you don't go too close too soon. Always set you dog up for success. If you click & he doesn't turn to you for the reward, then you are too close to the trigger. It is entirely different to marking him for looking at you. But there is no reason why you can't play LAM too. the good thing about LAT is eventually the trigger becomes an advantage to you instead of a distraction. :)

To me...I immediately saw a border collie face (with pricked ears)...something about the eyes :)

I have got two of them & they are the BEST

I've started the LAT game at home :)

You could try the Look At That Game....but you need to take it very slowly & "set up" scenarios where you can train it in a controlled environment & gradually add the triggers. Here are some notes that will get you going...if nothing else...have a read :) LAT Game

I wrote this article on Look At That Game, & put it on my web page, to save having to explain the fundamentals to people every time I tried to explain how it works. You are very welcome to have a look if you like :) The LAT Game Secret is to not try to rush it...you need to be patient...it is not going to happen overnight, like most training.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys Redsonic ...thats interesting with the elastomer. We used that grippy fibreglass matting that you buy for caravan annex flooring for the A-Frame, but when it is damp it is quite slippery. On the see saw & the dog walk we used course sand, but that also gets slippery when damp. This is all for my home equipment. The club did their equipment last year, so when I go to training next week, I will ask them where they got it from. Thanks for the link to BBAE, Tigerjack, that is exactly what I am after & I will definately check out what Bunnings have to offer Mrs RB, before I go to the expense of getting the other stuff.

As the topic says, where can I buy the coloured rubber granules or sheets to rubberise my agility equipment.

Ah I see, you don't like Dave-O/respect his review of food? I agree with him on this kibble. You don't need to try it to see what it's like - ingredients tell you what's in the bag. Or perhaps wants to see more than one opinion...? Yes...hoping for more than one opinion. Not saying I don't value Dave-O's opinion/review at all, but when I seek reviews on a product, I like to get a range of opinions, then draw my own conclusion, as to whether nor not I might buy that product...be it dog food or a steam cleaner

Thanks Sas....I was wondering if anyone has first hand use of it, apart from the review by Dave-O.

Have a look at what you might be giving her for treats. Dried liver treats used to go straight through my BC pup like a pack of epsom salts.

Any feedback on Genesis Dog Food, in particular the Salmon & rice Adult formula?? My link sorry if it has been done before, but I did a search & nothing came up :)

It's back on again but with a different print cover. :)

Oh dear that was quick...I grabbed two, even though I am not sure I even need more beds :laugh:

Sorry...couldn't help myself Budget Pet Products dog bed

I use a clicker for the same reasons as mentioned in previous posts. I have tried making a clicking sound with my tongue but wonder if I will still be able to do that when my mouth is dry & will it be loud enough when in a noisy, distracting environment. Also you might be having to click your tongue, 30 times a minute depending on what you are shaping. Can you do that?? Using a verbal like "yes" as others have pointed out, is a sound that they hear many times during the day & it doesn't hold the same value as a "loaded" clicker. I also use "yes" in general training, but it is more a marker as in...you have gone in the correct entry to the weaves & you may continue on...or...yes...that is the right end of the tunnel..or the correct response to an already learned cue. I went to a seminar once, where the instructor had spent her whole life "clicker" training all sorts of animals, including marine animals as well as large zoo animals. She found the clicker cumbersome, so she using a whistle which she can hold in her mouth. I also find that the excited, focused look on my dogs, when I pull the clicker out of my pocket, is worth all the tea in China. They don't show much excitement when I pull a "yes" out of my pocket. I have done up an article for people wanting to know how to get started in clicker training & some exercises you can do without your dog to sharpen your skill. You can find that Introduction to Clicker Training. Also, it doesn't matter if you accidently click the wrong thing...you just try not to do it too many times. I also find that placement of the reward is not terribly important, as it is the click that marks the exact moment, the reward follows. If you find the clicker cumbersome, & you do get better at it, try a whistle held in your mouth :)

Was it useful? (Did it work?) It was demonstrated - Scottie - the senior of the class paid no attention, Gemma the obsessed lab who only has eyes for mum took no notice either. It was only Meg, the kind of nervous Dobe who pricked her ears. It wasnt pointed at them -but I do wonder if they're... useful at all ... Yes it did, in so much as they retreated quickly. I have used them before on my own dogs to correcting/stop barking or other very bad or dangerous behaviour. They are good for repelling rats out of the wall :laugh: ETA..they have to be pointed directly at them Oh - I'm about to go OT we have a mouse issue at the moment... Maybe they might be useful. Back on topic - yes - we were told they had to be directed at the dog but didn't want to torture anyone in class - so the owner of the Dazer pointed it away. I still think 1/3 dogs even perking their ears is a low result. Yes...good for mice & once I got a rooster out of a tree at night :laugh:

Was it useful? (Did it work?) It was demonstrated - Scottie - the senior of the class paid no attention, Gemma the obsessed lab who only has eyes for mum took no notice either. It was only Meg, the kind of nervous Dobe who pricked her ears. It wasnt pointed at them -but I do wonder if they're... useful at all ... Yes it did, in so much as they retreated quickly. I have used them before on my own dogs to correcting/stop barking or other very bad or dangerous behaviour. They are good for repelling rats out of the wall :laugh: ETA..they have to be pointed directly at them

I have used a dazer in the past to repel dogs aggressivly fence running while I have been out walking, but doubt whether they would repel an attacker

Anyone ever tried throwing a handful of treats on the ground in front of a rushing dog ??

I wonder how fly spray could alter a dog's behaviour if sprayed in its face..or some other household readily available pressure spray. Obviously hard to do to avoid getting in the face of your own dog, but it might be enough to make the other dog back off...don't know. Capsicum spray, would be good but it is not legal.

I did ask in my opening post that this NOT be turned into a "BullBashing" thread. If everyone could keep the discussion on how to react to a dog attack, please. On an update note...the offending dog has been released back to it's owners

Well I guess it is up to the owner of the attacking dog to take it to the vet. No way would the good samaritan that drove her & her buddy to the vets about to bundle the other dog in the car too. If it were my dog being attacked, I would use any measures to rescue my dog & if that meant causing great injury to the offender, then so be it. It is amazing how, when put into a life or death situation, how adrenalin kicks in & you seem to suddenly have great strength. I had a friend who's horse got its back legs stuck down a cattle grid & her husband literally lifted the horse out of the grid....to this day he doesn't know where the strength came from.

I just spoke to her & the good news is that the little guy is home & has just wagged his tail. He hasn't eaten or gone to the toilet, so she is taking him in for an ultrasound. Obviously was'nt a Bull terrier, more a Mastif x as she said it was the biggest dog she had ever seen & would have weighed about 50 kilos...so all she could do was jump on it's back & try to strangle it, while also trying to get it to open it's jaws. Eventually it dropped her dog & the friend with her quickly put it over a fence. The dog has been taken t the pound.