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New judge Mr B Ranie Fri Toys - 1-56 Terriers - 57 - 96 Gundogs - 97 - 145 Hounds - 146 - 198 Working Dogs - 199 - 252 Utility - 253 - 278 Non Sporting 279 - 310 Sat Toys 1- 66 Terriers 67 - 120 Gundogs 121 - 185 Hounds 186 - 240 Working Dogs - 241 - 305 Utility 306 - 339 Non Sporting 340 - 387 Sun Toys 1-68 Terriers 69 - 113 Gundogs 114 - 170 Hounds 171 - 226 Working Dogs 227 - 278 Utility 279 - 304 Non Sporting 305 - 338

Do they include breed breakdown? If thy do can you pretty please tell me how many cavaliers and griffon bruxellios are entered? Only for groups Im afarid, nothing breed based. And there has been a change of judge, Dr Cowie is no longer judging. They have a guy from Canberra instead I believe, I will get the name when I get home tonight unless someone else has it.

I got my numbers tonight Good luck everyone

Thats all very interesting, its given me something to think about. I might be better off saying my Lab has 99.9% recall :cool: Thanks guys

Lagotto

My MIL had her security screen fitted with a dog door but as far as I know it was a custom job.

Thats a very good point Snerzok and one I agree with totally.

I agree

Ok so most people are of the opinion that 100% is impossible, correct? What then is concidered reliable? Also is it possible for the highest reward for a dog to be its owner? Is that level of training possible?

Nope, having said that I am often the last to get them

Thanks Fantastic, well done

Go Kyza! What a little Champ!

Congrats

Kelpie X not sure what else, ACD maybe or Dally?

I wont speak for Icemist but I took it to mean that it is possible, that a pet owner shouldnt assume that just because its a Samoyed means its impossible to train. I could be wrong Oh and believe me I will never say a Samoyed is easy to train! I should film Misty and I training OB, it can be very funny sometimes

I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't mean to. I just find it even more shockng to find two people now that feel this way, i just assumed the opinion must have come through from your breeder (and, understandably, of course) I agree. Fletcher does have good recall. In fact great recall! Until that day, it had always been 100% since i'd been training him from a young age. That day, i learnt good recall does not mean 100% recall. All good you didnt offend me I think we might have to agree to disagree on this one. And I will say for the record unless a pet owner is willing to put a huge, and I really mean huge, (years even), amount of training into a Samoyed, I would never recomend the dog is proofed enough to believe the recall is 100%. We are talking about a breed here that has been bred for thousnads of years to have a mind of its own, to think for itself and many owners are not willing, able or even bothered to put that kind of training into a dog, thats fine, dont let it off lead unless the area is 100% safe. All I am saying is, if the owner is willing and able and is more stubborn then the dog, it could be done, eventually. Oh and in regards to the previous post about Fletch getting away. I know exactly how scary that can be, I have had a dog do that to me before and it is the worlds worst feeling.

I rather suspect their opinions would change if their dog suddenly broke and got hit by a car. The point is, this thread is information about the breed for a potential puppy buyer. Most will not have the experience of those in the "obedience thread". Read the replies I got on that thread, no one denied that no dog has 100% recall. I have never heard from a breeder that feels that they should trust a Samoyed off lead 100%, even those involved in obedience. That is why I am so shocked, Wolfsong. You spend your weekends with Icemist so I guess I understand why you wouldn't find it so shocking. In fact, I have here what Kate Hall wrote from Mezen Samoyeds in reply to the same post when i put it on Facebook "YES you are crazy to think a samoyed ever has 100% recall because they dont they are samoyeds" Just because I hang around with Icemist does not mean I have to agree with everything he says. And everyone has their own opinions. This is mine. Yes a Samoyed can have good recall as far as I am concerned, any breed of dog can provided the work is put in. If that means you are training and proofing that dog for years, so be it. No where did I say that a puppy buyer should go to a park and let the dog off hoping for the best. They need serious amounts of training, years of training and yeah some dogs might never get it but there are dogs out there that can have good recall and it can be obtained.

What do you mean by reasonable?

Pretty simple. Do you believe it is possible for a dog to have a 100% recall? And are some breeds impossible to teach a 100% recall?

I am sorry but the call the no dog could have 100% recall is not true. I rather suspect that the people in the obediance thread would have a few things to say about that.

So true Icemist, well said

Yep, I'm all curious now

Thats great, congrats!

How exciting, he is lovely. And his father, wow, I know nothing about the breed but he is stunning!

A Samoyed is a very intelligent dog. It is very possible to train a recall in these dogs. There are a good number of Samoyeds out there with obediance and agility titles.