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Congrats to all those super dogs and their handlers. Ruby looked great - and so happy RS. Was the 270 left turn the one where you turn left as normal, and the dog, being slightly in front, wraps around the back of you and comes out at heeL? My first BC Sam used to do that sometimes - it always cracked me up, and he would do it so neatly that I would wonder if the judge believed whats/he saw.

Nope missed the closing date unfortunately. Spent yesterday rounding up stuff for making my jumps. My next trial is the state trial then southern river the next weekend (both am and pm trials) then the GSDA trial the next day, then NATIONALS!!! :D Just posted my entries for Southern River - looking forward to meeting you guys - but nobody laugh if I lose the plot and the BC goes feral.

That must be a relief.

Oh, that is just lovely, Jed. What a lucky little girl Chi is - she certainly landed on her four funny little feet when she came to you. Dog bless you! And Chi.

Suzanne Clothier and Susan Salo would both definitely say yes. There's also a book called something like Jumping from A to Z by Chris Zink (a sports vet) and Julie Daniels (agility competitor) which goes into jumping style in some detail - and which emphasizes the importance of the dog learning to jump correctly. Clean Run link to the book

RnL - I'd say - yes, keep doing what you're doing. Amypie, I'm using the Susan Salo methods to teach my BC jumping - a whole lot of good reasons for doing it. And I think back to a Suzanne Clothier seminar I went to years ago - she had the same sort of methods for getting the dog to teach itself to jump correctly - and she's also a horse person. Yes, flatter may be marginally faster, but not good for the dog in the long run, apart from the short term cost of bars down. And IMHO a dog jumping correctly and intelligently has more brain power spare to respond effectively to handler cues e.g. for wraps etc.

:D glad to help. Coincidentally, there is a good doggy first aid kit article in the new TCA Gazette - that includes Phenergan - but I'm pretty sure you could substitute Polaramine - your vet could help with the dose for that.

:D Huski and Daisy.

:D Clever boys. I still have to wait till I get over to WA to get mine. Not too long now - well, in time - very loooooong in distance.

Coming in late - but what else is new. :D Glad she's OK, Spottychick - but I worry about jackjumpers too. I keep OTC antihitsamines for myself - and have given a previouis BC a Polaramine after he was bitten. Asked my vet - he says for the BCs - keep 10mg Phenergan tablets on hand - so that's for 15-20 kg dogs. I'm not so worried about anaphylactic reactions in the dogs - don't know if that's been reported - and if they had one the antihistamine would only be a stopgap till they could get adrenaline - but more worried about the pain, and local reaction. The antihistmine knocks that right back for me, so I guess it shold hep the dogs too. The jackjumper bites really, really hurt .

I'm pretty sure that Discovery parks (Kingston Lodge) one at Carrum Downs is one that was used for Agility nationals in 2008 at the Park. Sounded OK.

Souff - Post #31 - :D That deserves to be pinned IMHO. Gets right to the heart of the differences. Do you think ANne read it???

Aaargh typing a reply and lost it. Anyway - along the lines of what pf said - guide dog training is for a different scenario. IMHO there's no way to train a dog to have road sense when they're unaccompanied - as Erny says - some seem to be born with it or be able to acquire it through near misses - others never do. It's not only the roads that you have to worry about though, with confirmed escapers - livestock, kids, snakes etc. are also a worry. So, containment is the only option. This is one of the DOL advertisers -don't know them - just putting the link in for ideas. Dog runs link

Good insights there ness! On the UK style heeling - Mary Ray was explaining that they are deducted points if the judge can see daylight between the dog and the handler's leg (so she said, she wears trousers with a wider rather than narrow leg ). To me, unless the dog had pinpoint judgement and accuracy of holding the position, that would get you pinged for crowding here. So I'm aiming for close but not touching - but like ness, I like the head round (but not as exaggerated as some of the UK ones, and trotting (well, maybe not in slow pace without a lot of work.) Hastens to point out there are huge differences between my aims and my current achievements.

Besides which, she's too old for Maccas .

Me too.

In Tasmania, at Masters level - Sheltie, GSPs, Whippet, Smithfield as well as BC.

Only if the handler is waaay late with cues - that would be me sometimes. In most cases, the cue for the next behaviour (and the cue might be verbal, physical or both) will come often at the commitment point to the particular obstacle - and sometimes before. If the dog actually has to look at the handler at the completion of an obstacle for the next cue, the dog is asking a question it shouldn't have to ask - the answer should have been given before the question is asked - ideally. And no, I personally wouldn't consider a course a behaviour chain - as the OP has said, each course is novel for the dog.

Try putting crate training adult dogs into a search engine. There seems to be quite a bit out there. Here's one Link - look OK at a quick glance.

I like the way you said "and then was the show at Westbury" Maybe we should stick to the performance side of our doggies, rather than "someone's" opinion of what a breed "should" look like It is a whole different world.

Good job, Biker Girl and the girls. Knew that UD pass wouldn't be too long coming. I missed you - did agility at Tas Dog on Saturday (some nice runs, but only 2 Qs for Kirra and me - but one was a 1st in Open Agility), and then was at the show at Westbury today - might just as well have stayed in Lonnie to watch you!

Wow - some great brags from, SA - well done guys (including Dova's admission - Izzi will forgive you - trust me - Kirra should have advertised for a new handler ages ago. ) - and an especially well done for the very busy xena98 - you must be so proud of your girls.

Me too amypie - though it's easier for me to hide at the moment. But she'll get me 'cos she has my i-squeaks hostage .

I had that chance one time when I was training Kirra to work sheep on a friend's sheep property. We were having a bad day one time, so my friend said, put Kirra up in the car without comment, and then come back and do the exercise with Pearl - her working bred BC - her top dog - Wow!!! That was so good in terms of teaching me where I needed to be and what I needed my dog to be. You're right, ness - and experience that stays with you.

Would Australian Shepherds be considered a collie related breed in this situation? Yes. One of the best souces of information on the genetic mutation which causes the problem is in this information by Washington State University link . You can have your dog tessted to see if it has the sensitivity. There's quite a bit more out there - try putting something like mdr1 gene ivermectin sensitivity into your search engine.