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Whats Suprelorin? An implant originally manufactered for male dogs as a chemical casteration but I am sure one or two have used it on bitches here. My vet didn't know much about it and ordered it in and charged me the same as it would cost to have him casterated as they want more dogs desexed pemanently, they do not say much about the implant at all unless you ask. It come in a 6 or 12 mth implant. I will have to google.

Do people use dogs for hunting roos in WA? That would be so illegal in QLD. What do the roo dogs do? Depends. Some Roo shooters shoot roo's then send the dogs out to mark where they have fallen, one I know uses Weims as they are easy to see in the spotlight. Others use them to hunt, pull down and kill roo's. As far as I know it is not illegal but most people shoot them or get a roo shooter in. Not too many use dogs. Ahh, interesting. The use of a dog to find the downed shot roo is a good idea. They can be hard to find in long grass or something. Pulling down and killing roos - surprised that is not illegal. WA's laws might not be so tough as qld perhaps. Plus, from the point of view of a professional roo shooter - I'm surprised it wouldn't cause too much carcase damage. Thanks for the info. Professional roo shooters don't use dogs it is generally the cowboys that do that. Some farmers still use roo dogs as well.

Do people use dogs for hunting roos in WA? That would be so illegal in QLD. What do the roo dogs do? Depends. Some Roo shooters shoot roo's then send the dogs out to mark where they have fallen, one I know uses Weims as they are easy to see in the spotlight. Others use them to hunt, pull down and kill roo's. As far as I know it is not illegal but most people shoot them or get a roo shooter in. Not too many use dogs.

I do understand what you are feeling. Having said that I felt sad when I had my Dobe (RIP) done until I have a good 12 months of mentally together, no phantoms, no bitchiness happy go lucky dog every day. Then I was VERY happy she was desexed. I guess for me it's the finality of it all, there is no going back once it is done. So I do feel a bit should I, shouldn't I. In time however you will be happy with what you have done and she can be a happy pet with no worries about seasons, mismatings etc. When you have more time you may decided to welcome another bitch into your family. Can't you use Suprelorin for bitches as well?

Spearwood is a suburb of Perth. I have seen some pig dog type of litters advertised in the Quokka, but I think they are from up north a bit and would be more roo dogs than pig dogs I think.

She is cute, and rather large for her age, I am with COsmolo she is going to be big. I think Grey X as well, with goodness knows what else. I don't see one hair of bull breed. She did look whippety until I saw her size. My male Whippet is 14.5kgs fully grown and has decent bone and well filled out.

It was an unacceptable abuse of power, but to whom can you report it? No ombudsman to handle this! No-one which is the problem.

I would not have them walking around the house. I would crate or pen. I have seen a dog that did have the house to wander in and he needed repeat surgery. If she is crate trained I would be crating her and carying to the toilet in the first little while, then straight out toilet and straight in. The recovery phase is ever so important in the success of the surgery. Rommi has been crate/dog run rested for 5 weeks (she is very quiet in the run) or tied on her bed with a short lead for a strained knee. It is nearly 6 weeks and she is just starting small trots around without the other dog. They will not be back together playing for another 3 or 4 weeks. As much as they do get bored with it all on the scheme of things it is only 6 to 8 weeks out of a potentially 16 year life. Best to do it once and do it properly the first time

Teebs very sorry to hear that. I am not sure of exact time frames but from memory they need to be crated and toileted ( if really full on carried out) on lead only for 6 weeks. Then they can have very small walks on lead - around the back yard- and work up from there. It is really important they are kept quiet for the correct length of time or it may not heal and you may have to repeat surgery.

Agreed wholeheartedly. I want a closer relationship with my breeder. I have been told when researching a breed that this particular breeder would not sell to me because i had a 4 and a 2 year old. To be honest it did annoy me in the beginning as they knew absolutely nothing about my situation or experience or the fact I had an 8 week old puppy and a 5 mo and 2 yo and was happy to get references etc, just a blanket no. After a while I decided the same, I wouldn't want a puppy from them as I like to be close to my breeder and have a good relationship. I spoke to another breeder with that breed who was happy for me to have a puppy with young children. As it happened I got another Whippet from the same person as my first puppy.

I did see this show and I do remember they gave the young Bracy breed dog a GA to xray it's tail. I am quite sure a sedation or even just holding it would have sufficed! I was thinking at the time I hope nothing goes wrong with the GA. If that was my dog I would have been on the rampage. As mentioned how dare they take a perfectly healthy dog with no evidence of pain off to have a GA just to see if the dogs tail was docked. They could have spoken to the owner and sorted it BEFORE the GA etc. The behaviour from the RSPCA was over the top and not required and only done as a publicity stunt. The average Joe Public would have been to caught up in the "oh noes a nasty person cut off the dogs tail" instead of thinking about the invasion of privacy.

So you have the black and tan and red?? But not the brown and tan like in Dobes?? Very interesting. Do they happen often?? I agree with the dilutes. Wish they didn't allow them in Dobes over here. Very cute little Aussie!

I have tears pouring down my face reading your wonderful tribute to your special girl. RIP Millie, no more struggles for you.

If you want them to get used to say being in a puppy pen, or staying out of certain rooms or spending more time out than they do now, then start now! Even though all the gear isn't in the house yet if you have a room picked as the nursery and you want to limit access start now. Get them happy with spending time outside when you are in (if they don't already) that means that they can enjoy time out from the new baby when it is crawling moving around. I found a play pen/crate invaluable. If for any reason I had to go out of the room or where distracted ie cooking, my then puppy went into the puppy pen. that way the kid wasn't hurting annoying the puppy and the puppy wasn't dive bombing the kid! In the beginning you will have less time for your dogs as you get used to being a mum and you both learn about each other. Prepare them for it now. I know I thought it wouldn't be much different but the truth is in the beginning youa re trying to come to grips with disturbed sleep and a little person who has a will of their own and can't tell you exactly what their problem is, so as much as you would like verything to stay the dsame it won't. Well thought out and organised introducing a baby to the house doesn't have to be a nightmare or a major stress.

They are definately a different noise and there is a small hole next to the squeaker hole. They have stood up okay to mine but they just squeak them not really chew into them.

And I agree with you. My bitch was checked by vets and xrayed a day before she flew back and was told no puppies in there. The day after I got her home I had a nagging feeling and I should have listened. Lesson learnt I will go with my gut feelings from now on - they are usually right- and it will not happen again. The bitch I mentioned was ultrasounded at 4 weeks and x rayed the week before she whelped. Neither showed anything. Sorry guys, wasn't referring to you specifically! Hope I didn't come across the wrong way :rolleyes: No was saying I guess that the odd one can slip through, however I would not knowingly do it as I do not think it is the right environment for a bitch to whelp in.

Oh Champa you do test your mum's patience!

I'd like to hear what this has to do with rare and disqualifying colours! At this time I year, I prefer to reflect on beer and presents. Or just presents in my case :rolleyes: oh me too! I have a ripper this year

Good point Souff. They will not be wanting to "dob" in breeding partners and friends!

And I agree with you. My bitch was checked by vets and xrayed a day before she flew back and was told no puppies in there. The day after I got her home I had a nagging feeling and I should have listened. Lesson learnt I will go with my gut feelings from now on - they are usually right- and it will not happen again. The only reason she was in the show was a friend was going to show her bitch, the breeder was going to the show as well and we met up (750kms drive for me, interstate flight for the breeder). She was carrying a little more weight when I picked her up but the breeder has more weight on his bitches than I do and she wasn't getting as much exercise, She had a waist and a tuck up. I was not happy when I woke up to a puppy at 5.30am the Wednesday morning!

Woofen would you sell a pup to someone like me?? I live on acerage, have livestock fences around the house which if a dog really wanted to they could get thorugh. I do not leave my dogs out unattended, I have escape proof dog runs of a substantial size and will have a yard attached (half finished) that is 7 metres X 4 metres and is grassed and a 7 foot high fence??? My dogs are inside when I am as a general rule. But are in dog runs when I am out. I am interested to know as with some breeds who do need really secure fencing or they could rack off and not come back until they are ready the fences would be no good, but for dogs like my Whippets that never leave your side and certainly always know where you are they have never attempted to ge through the fences and never taken off. As I say they are not left out unsupervised. I am sure there are a few breeders that would not sell to me due to the fact I do not have the convential backyard set up.

Generalisation - much! Must go and tell my Stafford who was not desexed until he was 8 that he should have been half crazy and mad as a hatter. Sorry but rubbish. He is and always has been a very laid back dog, it's just him. Wether he was entire or not made not a scrap of difference. In fact my Whippets are more energetic than he has ever been. Staffords like any other breed can have very energetic drivey dogs and rather laid back ones. RSG said HER Staffords would not be suited for apartment life, my old fella possible may have been, but he hated being left by himself and complained so maybe not unless someone was home all the time??? Like I said before I would chose the best home for my babies with the people I think they will have the best homes with. I did not say that that would mean no apartments - infact I think Whippets could be very good apartment dogs- I said it would be the best home I could find. My definition of best home and yours may differ - I don't really care about that to be honest.

I agree in your circumstance that I would take my dog out for walks. I would avoid dog parks, training shows etc. Around here I have to be careful as Rommi goes hard and puts her body on the line and doesn't always pull it off. So the lead walks would increase and the free body slamming play decrease as well. But I can go for a good 6 km walk and not leave the property. I consider myself very lucky, although it does have its down sides, like my closest show/trial being 475kms away

I do have to say my bitch was flown from interstate, I met the breeder at the show, picked her up, she was shown and three days later had a pup. The bitch was returned as she was xrayed as not being pregnant, and due to the fact she had VERY convincing phantoms there was nothing unusual about the large boobs. There was only one pup. So I guess it could have been me! I would never have had her there if I had of known, and she wouldn't have been flown back if the breeder had known. Yep I know of a bitch who was confirmed not pregnant who ended up with 3 pups! Her owner came home from a dog show (the bitch hadn't been entered due to the possibility of being pregnant) to find 3 pups and a happy bitch in the backyard!! So not whelped at a show but could have been quite easily. This bitch also was a classic with milk boobs and false pregnancies! Quick question to those who keep the bitch at home from mating- how do you exercise her? Or do you have a large yard/property to run her on? I have a large property and only take my dogs to town for training and just to give them something else to look at really. I take them to the beach as well but we have lots of beach and if there are other people their we quite often move to another spot with no other people or dogs. I have no need in the exercise department to take them off my property

That's interesting considering working farm dogs need to prove their worth tand to be able to work all day by 18 months to two years or quite often they are removed from the working dog life. If they were not sound enough to be worked they would have been long gone by 18 months. Anyway back to topic I really do not see why people get so het up about whom a breeder sells their dog to. They are their puppies and they make the decision on homes after much research and with their best interests at heart. I have some friends who are lovely people but I would not sell them one of my puppies and it is for a particular reason, they would wonder why it bothered me. At the end of the day it is the breeders right to sell to the home THEY think is the correct one for their baby. I live on acerage and I do not have a backyard that is fenced with 6 foot colourbond fencing. I have single wire electric fences. I understand that for some breeds that would not be ideal and for some breeders it would not be ideal. I do not leave my dogs outside un-attended and they have very secure dog runs and a soon grassed yard on the front of those with over 6 feet high chain mesh fences. But I do not have a typical set up. I have been told bu a person that they would not sell me a dog because I had a 2 and 4 year old, however another breeder did not find it an issue and happily sold me a puppy who has a great life and I even have a second dog from her. While I was a little miffed at the person not selling to me because I had kids, I just went about finding one that would. It is not different to the apartment verses yard argument. My puppies will go where I think they have the best chance at a great life and being very well looked after.