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Yes is rather ironic! That is a not very JR looking JR, and the Rotti is not very Rotti looking either. Either the "JR" is large or the "Rotti" is small. Still poor little girl what are those morons thinking!!!

No one breaks ankles better either Only if you don't get out of their way!!!! Sorry Haven Black Lab and GSP from me I will leave before I derail any further :D

BB You did give it your best shot and your heart still will be hurting because not only did you invest a lot of time you invested a lot emotionally. Not every dog works for every situation. Given a little time I am quite sure you will find a wonderful dog to share your love with that will not send you on such an emotional and physical journey. We really feel for you. Lots of Whippet hugs and nose prods

I'm with you Seita - I do tend to try to look a little bit neater for obedience than I do for agility and definitely neater than for tracking I can't help it, my dressage horses were always trimmed and had make up on! I always liked to start looking like a millon bucks ( well kind of, no pair of yoga type pants can look like a millon bucks!) and hope it carry's through. Also I think in general it creates a good first impression.

Black is my favourite Lab colour And because they are black they come with the big black dog label so quite often people are a bit wary of them just because they are a BBD

I didn't mention them because I thought they might be more active a dog than Haven is looking for. The good ones are great dogs though.. and quite imposing. They are when young but with training as Haven wishes to do I think they would be pretty good as their brain is occupied. They are pretty full on teenagers though, and I have found the males a little more laid back, but not sure if they are all like that. No-one gives choccies eyes better than a gorgeous male GSP.

Not sure what you are saying The pug Breed PUG Ranking 2nd (2nd worst hips) Number of dogs screened 406 % of excellent 0.0% % of Dysplasit 64.3% Is this what you are talking about? With pugs my understanding is that HD is often hand in hand with dwarf genes. It is true that most breeders do not score dwarf breeds, as it is pretty well understood they will generally not have good hips. Having 400 scored in any dwarf breed is doing very well. I'll see if I can find any infor from Norway Finland or Sweeden on hips scores for pugs, not sure if they mandate there or not, with other more pressing health concerns I am thinking they will not be screening all breeding dogs. Oh sorry I stand corrected I read it wrong, was still waking up

And this is exactly my story and I would not stop others from doing the same. I also do not begrudge people who desex their puppies before they go when they are popular Puppy farm breeds.

I am thinking Black Lab, if you can handle the hair which may be similar to a Rotti?? or a GSP. Many peopel think they are Dobes for some reason especially if you get a fairly solid one. I LOVE GSP's so that would be my choice

interesting stats. However I do wonder about some for example, the Pug. ONly two recorded, but they rank second with 0% excellent. That would be because no-one sends in a Pug radiograph unless they have a hip issue. This would possibly be the same with other breeds who have a very low incidence of hip issues. I do realise though that in some breeds number may be higher due to people not wanting the results to be recorded or not getting them scored.

Found ours and it says 2 dogs over the age of three months if the premises is situated within a town site. 4 dogs over the age of three months if the premises is situated outside a town site. Mine friend lives just one the outside of the townsite border and she has 4 dogs all rego'd no worries, but she is actually about 10kms if that from the centre of town. Her side of the road is small acerage ie 5 acres and less, the other side of the road is normal town sized blocks. I can't find anything about applying for any permits though

I guess in a way SG that is how I have gotten to the point I have. My bitch was on Limited, bought as a pet ( I have shown dogs before) as time went on and many exchanges with the breeder she got changed to the MR and has now been shown a few times and will have a litter. It will be a registered litter. I am not totally against a person having a litter but I think there are certain things that I don't agree with as I have said previously. A bitch that is bred from and the litter not registered, contributes nothing to the gene pool as the puppies cannot be used in future breeding programmes.

Have to say that my Lewis boy is starting to look ubber fit. I like them when they look ubber fit. They both looked great before, but he is looking even better now

Strauss is looking great I cannot imagine you having a dog in your house and not trialling the dog:) I am sure he will be up there winning with the best before too long!

You won't get vitriol from me. I can see your point. If a dog is healthy people will wonder why not, but a Whippet that is healthy is great, but not if it resembles a JRT cross?? It should be healthy and look like it should. Hmmm don't think I can put into words what I am thinking. I worked in the veterinary industry for many years and there were many people that thought their dogs were the beez neez and they would make wonderful puppies. Sometimes to be honest their dogs was a dog that you could see a fleeting glimps of what it was actually supposed to be, or it was down right ugly. They didn't think that a level bite was an issue, or that all Jack Russell skip it's just a habit they have, or that all Staffords have bandy legs. The truth is no they shouldn't have those things but many owners thought that was the norm (and yes there are many other things I have heard in that vein) The Purebred Bull Terrier that was a definate cross, but the owner had kept her entire to breed because she was purebred when there was no chance she was. The owner must have heard it all before as she was extremely aggressive about any suggestion about her being wayyy over sized or not having the lovely head shape that BT's are reknowned for, also she had no idea about testing for the kidney disease these guys can get and to be honest the vets didn't really have a clue about which genetic tests were recommended/required for the various purebreds. The other reasons not to breed a seemingly very healthy dog is they have no idea if there is an issue behind it, especially if it does not have any pedigree info. There may be a resessive gene they know nothing about, they breed, the other piece of the puzzle is fitted and say 6 different families get a puppy with a genetic issue. The will blame the breed instead of the BYB that didn't have a clue in the first place. Many people breed seemingly healthy dogs that have no genetic testing. There was a littler of Border Collies down here, seemingly healthy parents. One pup euthed with TNS at a young age, all other pups will be carriers. Personally I want it all, really good looking, extremely sound physically and the temperment to do dog sports etc. That is what I strive for. To me there is a lot more to owning and breeding the perfect dog than the show ring. But I also do not think that puppies should be bred willy nilly as reality dictates that these wonderful homes people have lined up quite often fall through. Yes there is people that may wish to only have one litter and not pump out babies, but it can be very hard to tell. My babies will not be desexed before going, I hope that people do what we agree on and desex any limited register pet puppies. However at the end of the day I cannot guarentee that is what they will do.

I use thick coats and Snuggle safe disks, but they are quite a bit smaller than yours! The old Stafford has a 12v pet bed from Red Dot

When you bought the dog what register it was on would have been explained as would the breeders position on potentially upgrading the dog - or not! If someone wants a dog to potentially breed from a dog then they should be upfront about it. If a person wants to breed they should only breed from sound - physically and mentally - fit dogs. The breeder would have more knowledge that a new person to the breed so if they said it wasn't good enough then well it isn't. While I understand a person saying well it's my dog I can do what I like, I can also understand a breedr trying to protect the puppies/dog they have bred. I would hate to think of any dog I had bred being used to pump out puppies by someone who does not have a code of ethics to abide by and no real knowledge or means to breed correctly. The bitch could be pumping out puppies every season ( which we all know examples of!) I do not want that for my puppies./ I want them to go to loving families where they are loved companions first and for most, not a potential breeding and or money making machine. Personally if someone approached me regarding a potential show pup I would not dismiss it and say only the ones I keep are on mains, but I would make sure - to the best of my ability - that they were legitimate and caring owners for that puppy (like any pet or not, but especially for a Mains puppy)

Yep seen those before as well Lewis is really starting to look like a VERY fit dog, he has always looked fit, but now he is starting to look rather nicely polished Love a fit looking dog

Breaking Dawn First light A Lil ray of sunshine Um sorry that's all I can think of for the moment - I am not very good at it!

My bitch was purchased on the limited register and up graded when she was older and the breeder was happy with how she had matured. I didn't specifically buy her to show, but have got back into it, even if only rarely and she is a lovely girl.

Google is my friend I googled your prefix and a DOL profile showed up, then wahla a lovely WHippet He was a dog that was put forward to me by someone who had seen him in the flesh as a potential stud dog one day

Peperone Original Sin

The Goldie sin't close to her leg? I guess that is the difference you are pointing out? If that is what I was supposed to tbe seeing? Lewis works closer than that and he does brush my leg very lightly, he does move out of the way and doesn't wack into my legs or anything though. I was told by only two different judges, that is working style is excellent.

Handsome lad there Murve :D I have just figured out who he is We biked and walked today, missed out yesterday because I biked and walked in the morning then had to pull a calf in the afternoon the day before so my muscles were a little tired! Lewis just loves the biking, you put your shoes on and get the lead and as soon as he see's the bike or you say bike he is a jumping, waggy bundle of Whippet!

I am a little particular about what I wear in the fact I like the colours to work. However I do wear sneakers. I wear training pants that are what we normally train in, but newer ones - so like yoga type pants. I wear a shirt or top that matches my dogs collar. So Last time I had on black pants (I have light dogs) sneakers and a red top. My male dog had a collar with a design that was blue and had red in it and a red lead. My femal dog had a red black and grey collar and a red lead. I see dogs sports as that and thing sprots wear is more than appropriate. My friend however trialed in jeans and docs, very neat and all matching as well, but probably not what I would wear.