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Also on that note can anyone recommend a good vet with after hours emergency around Central Coast NSW? I live near Gosford but will be prepared to travel a safe distance to get the best possible service for my poms - I am feeling really scared about the changes happening here - My vet is great but they have since ceased afterhours/emergency - I really don't like the sound of these new afterhours clinic!

As my friend said, its never about the money - you just want what is best for your girl and if possible her puppies..... for that price what are your thoughts about the fact they did not send the bitch away with antibiotics, telling my friend she will need to arrange this with her regular vet, and no follow up appointment to check on bitch and have her stitches out?? I have never gone to an A/H vet that purely specialises in that a lone so maybe it is different - they just do what they can A/H and the rest is up to the regular vet?? is that right - still for that amount of money paid I would expect a course of AB's and a follow up consult - I know most probably take their own stitches out but still???

Thanks SparkyTansy - I am glad you can see the error too in this situation - it really just does not add up does it? In more ways then one! My friend is very lucky to still have her bitch and her puppy, but yes it could have been a lot worse

Hi there, My friend has just had a litter of black and gold puppies. I think they are around 2 weeks old. MY friend is a registered breeder, usually breeds poms but also cockers, she has a black and tan female and a black female both are fully registered. Her kennel name is Pramoda. The mother of the pups is a lovely solid black girl and the sire was used from another breeder up around Newcastle I think - I am not very knowledgeable of of the cocker spaniel community so don't know the bloodlines or kennel name of the stud that was use but I can certainly find out any details for you. I believe there is both sex available in the gold. Puppies will be registered/ have papers. Pups are based in Central Coast of NSW.

Hi, I just wanted to get some advice and some of your opinions on what should be correct service provided by a vet? Firstly this happened to a friend of mine, not me, so I apologise if I cannot answer some of your questions regarding the situation that unfolded - however the reason I ask is because my vet is no longer doing after hours/emergency so I would almost be forced to attend this new afterhours vet clinic, and as it is I have a bitch soon to whelp so I need some sort of guidance as I am very worried! My friend and I exhibit and breed Pomeranians. The story is.... In the early hours of the evening my friends bitch goes into labour - She calls this vet and notifies them that her bitch is in labour. I am not sure the exact time she let her bitch try and whelp but it was only a matter of an hour and a half of intense pushing with no progress that she decided to call the vet and tell them she was on the way. She informed them over the phone that she would be there in 30 mins and to expect an emergency c-section so they can get prepared. My friend checked heart beats of puppies and all seemed fine, she also noted that her bitch was stable and not starting to stress. She turns up to the vet and was served by the vet on duty who she described as being a little unorganised, she wastes time with the paper work and kept ringing her "boss" to try and find out information and fees on the procedure. My friend points out to the vet the urgency of the matter and that no time should be wasted as the bitch really needs to be taken in for the best chance possible for her and her pups! The vet explains that there is not enough staff on to undergo such a procedure as apparently they have other emergencies that need attention and at this point my friend is getting very anxious about her bitch! There is much discussion and argument over the risk of holding off too long but the vet doesn’t want to hear it - eventually they take the bitch in and virtually kick my friend out of the clinic - my friend obviously wanted to stay and wait with her bitch. She eventually gets a phone call to come pick up her girl and her pup. There was a total of 3 pups but only one survived. My friend learns that her bitch was taken in and put on a drip and then waited a further 2-3 hours before they eventually did the c-section on her..... for me I would be extremely angry with this as you should never wait so long for a c-section, especially on a toy breed and any other breed for that matter. They then proceed to charge my friend a cracking $1,990 for the emergency c-section, on the paperwork the c-section alone cost $800, there was a consultation fee, and theatre fees?? But surely that would not add up to nearly $2000!!!...... Yet no antibiotics were given on discharge!!! and no they don't cover taking the stitches out in 10 days - My friends was told to contact her usual vet to organise the AB's and to book an appointment with them to take her stitches out!!! Sorry but not only does this sound hugely expensive for an emergency c-sections, but what about all the missing extras??? I just had a bitch c-sectioned and it did not cost me anywhere near this, fair enough it was during trading hours, but in the past it cost me around $1,100 at the most for an emergency c-section after hours, and I have also had one performed in Sydney which you can expect to be a bit on the higher side yet that still cost around $1,300. BUT AB'S were given on discharge, and the price covered a 10 day follow up appointment to check on the bitch and remove her stitches.... My poor friend has ended up paying close to $2,200 as having to book two appointments with another vet to get AB'S and to get stiches out! And sadly lost two puppies that night – BUT it could have been worse..... waiting that long and they could have lost the lot!!! What are your thoughts on this??

Thank you - good advise will investigate this. Sorry I did forget to mention the girls were swabbed aswell and all was good - a lot of my breeder friends put their girls on a course of AB's and this has been something I follow too. Thank you :)

Thank you Lappiemum - yes agreed that is my only problem... I would in this case not know whether they reabsorbed or not as we never confirmed pregnancy in the first place. This has been the first time I have ever carried out progesterone testing.. We tested 3 times, and 2 times, so I guess it would only estimate when ovulation would occur - but this was what was advised to me. We mated during all of which time the girls were receptive - so I can see this would not be a complete guarantee - but nevertheless in the past we left things pretty natural and never worried about progesterone tests and managed pretty well - funny how the more you interfer and worry the more unsuccessful you can be. But anyway we will see how we go! I appreciate the feed back :) do you have any other thoughts about why all of a sudden we are missing girls - someone mentioned the herpes virus which kind of scared me hence why I have come on here for more views?

Hi all, just wanted to get some ideas of how to go about our situation and what direction I should take. Long story short.... Just bred my two girls to my new UK import boy and so far things look no good firstly we have had his sperm checked and all is good. He is 15 months old and has not been bred before. The two girls have both had a litter each, one has had a c-section and this particular girl we missed on her previous cycle, so are now wondering if maybe there is some underlying issue which is preventing her to conceive?? Both these girls have cycled together for 2 years and have been right on time. Last year they were 2 months late, and again were due in season back in November but again came in season mid January. Because both these litters were very important to me we got both girls progesterone tested so not to miss them and even did AI on the first girl because at first our import boy had no idea due to inexperience and we certainly did not want to miss her.... He finally worked out whey he was doing and continued on to do natural matings with this girl and the next. I have not done an ultrasound on the girls as a few times I have had to cancel due to work. Girls should be due in 2-3 weeks but given the lack of belly etc I am very doubtful they are pregnant. What avenues should I be exploring!? I know this happens but it seems odd to have missed 2 girls especially given we have done progesterone tests and fertility tests on the male?? For the girl who has now missed twice to two separate studs, should I be checking things out with her?? Possible scarring from previous c-section or health issues etc??? Thank you in advance.

Thanks guys - yes we made copies but ANKC want originals - anyway must thank you again for your help - spoke to my good friend Tom Couchman today and he has given me all the info needed - just have to hope the new papers from the UKC arrive in the coming days as this is all that we are waiting on, everything else is processed. Thank you again

Hello all.... Just wanted to get some help with re-registering my import into the ANKC. Last year I underwent re-registering an import from NZ successfully into the ANKC, knowing that this is a lot easier but providing all necessary documents like export pedigree, airway bill, airport quarantine clearance invoices/paperwork, animal identification using microchip details and proof of ownership being clearly stated on his pedigree certificate and microchip details. The re-registrations forms look no different (unless they have updated them over the past weeks?) to that of the ones I used last year, so went through the list and supplied the same as above - however after 2 weeks of sending my form off with paperwork and having the $90 odd dollars taken from my account I get a phone call stating I need to also supply the "owner registration certificate" which I knew straight away what they were referring to as I had this arrive in the letterbox some days early sent direct from the UKC. This certificate provided nothing more then the dogs details, the sire and dam, breeder and owner details, all the information that the pedigree certificate provides but much more simplistic..... I send this and unfortunately it has been misplaced or lost in transit - have traced it through post but have no idea what has happened and whether it was received or not I am wondering if this paperwork is absolutely necessary for the registration of my boy as there is sufficient enough evidence that I am the new owner and no where does it state on the re-registration form that this paperwork is needed??? I never needed this last time so I am very confused and getting quite upset as my boy arrived back in September and I sent the form and paperwork to dogs nsw end of october, they have taken payment and now I have had to contact the UKC and pay out more money to have them replace and send out a new owners registration certificate which I have now been waiting for a month and hoping they arrive any day now!! Just upsetting as I am hanging out to show him and not to mention I have girls coming in season any day now, so time is of the essence!!! Hoping someone can shed some light Thank you in advance.

Thanks Becks - yes been very busy unfortunately!! but always come back when I have the time spare to catch up with everyone and learn something new

Thank you so much everyone for your comments - very interesting how things change so quickly - always new tips everytime I have another litter - which really is only 1-2 times per year if that Great to hear others experiences with this product. Thank you again jess

hello all I have not been on here for a while and just wanted to catch up to date with what supplements, food etc people are using now for pregnant girls - it just seems to change every time i have a litter - LOL - This particular pending litter is very very special to me so I want to really make sure I do everything right. I also thought it might be a good topic to start for new breeders to this forum seeking similar advise as well as most of these similar post are out dated or have disappeared.... I also wanted to find out more specifically about raspberry leaf on pregnant bitches? Is it the tablets that you buy from the health store/chemist? If so how do you prepare and how much for a pomeranian girl weighing 2.5 kilo? When do you start? My girl has just come into season now - day 4. Any other supplements people use or advise etc would be greatly appreciated - I am always interested to learn what others are doing these days. Thank you in advance

Congratulations Redkidsmum on the arrival of your litters - I hope this your new litters makes you smile a little and warms your heart after all the devastation you have experienced - thinking of you and hope that things will only get better soon. Jess xoxo

and China - Partipaws Lil China Doll couldn't resist adding this pic

so nice to see how all the december babies are doing - my how time flies!!!! gorgeous babies everyone!!! our two girls are doing really well - both have their first shows coming up real soon! here is a pic of Asia - Partipaws Lil Asian Princess

good luck PomsNZ!!! everything crossed here for you to get your 2 happy healthy BIS girls.... I am amazed to hear that Jed!! younger girls producing girls earlier in their life and older girls producing boys!!! well I got scammed then lol!!! I have been getting all boy litters, but thankfully got 2 girls just recently! fingers crossed for girls with my next litter pending any day now - probably jinx me with yet another all boy litter as this is my older girl if you would call her that

Rubystar wrote:"She will indulge like Millie's backside is a Mr Whippy machine" :rofl: :D :D :) :p :rofl: WOW I HAVE THE WORST VISUAL NOW - NEVER AGAIN MR WHIPPY Yep look up my old posts and I had problems in the past with my poms eating poop - their own, their dads, mums, sisters, brother, friend, cat, bird, possum etc.... I tried everything possible and change of diet and never stopped the disgusting habit!!! Maybe just made it less frequent?? As they have gotten older they seem less prone to doing it, but every now and then I catch them doing it and presto who on earth designed this icon: its bloody fantastic!!! lets look at it again in slow motion ok moving on... so yep we just learned to live with it now - its very disgusting but thats dogs for you

Hello all... Quick question,.... Something I have always wondered! Are spiders such as red backs and funnel webs poisonous to dogs?? As many of u will know we have Pomeranians and have just moved into a new house 5 months ago! I am guessing this summers strange weather patterns with lots more rain has brought out the spiders and in 2 days I have stumbled across 3 dirty big funnel webs, 1 female and 2 males - yikes! So in short I am worried about my Pets, my Poms and cat.... Can they kill dogs and cats or make them very ill?? Would a pest man be able to spray for these creepy crawlies!? Thanks in advance

Nice one! will speak to my partner.,, thank u. Jess xo

BB we meet again!!! LoL might be expecting yet another pom litter end of Feb! I will have to confirm dates as I am finally picking my girl up after and extended vaccation away with her boyfriend so will get the mating dates confirmed. Her first mating was around the 20th so I might just scrape in to feb... Will see?? Busy year for us! All quite one year, all girls on break or not old enough and then "wham" it's all on again have left the most exciting one till last, which is planned for July - some of u might remember my first litter December 09 well we are repeating it

Because I am a rebel and have more money then sense!!!! LOL!!! *sighs* I wish I had money! The breed standards is very out dated! Black and tans, or any colour and tan are acceptable now as of June 2009. We are still working on modernising the standards though. Some would say the tan marking statement refers to something else being that of a mismark?? But as we have all found there are many many grey areas in the standards which need to be deleted or rewritten so that it is crystal clear and not so open to misinterpretation! The fact of the matter is that as of June 2009 the big question mark for the Poms with tan markings, so black and tan, blue and tan, choc and tan and the tri colours (blue, choc, black with tan parti colours) have been accepted and are showing quite successfully - one black and tan getting RUISS! Yes you do hit the odd judge who is old fashioned and picks the oranges, but times are changing. I came to be a breeder/exhibitor of the Poms because I fell in love with the breed firstly but also fell in love with the parti! I become very passionate at seeing the unique/rare colours accepted and recognised and I thoroughly enjoy the challege of getting out there and promoting the colours! These colours have every right to be in the ring and on equal with the sables, oranges, these "exotic/rare" colours were the original of the breed long before the orange popped up and the black and tans are very useful in correcting pigment and richness in coat colour in oranges and sables... So we value them greatly. Anyway in answer to your question, I will show him if he is a fine example of the breed, in my opinion colour should never fault a good dog! Colour should be the last thing to judge. But most importantly he will be a great asset to my parti progra here as there is not enough parti Poms here in oz to work with. I love a good challenge and I will see to it the standards change, see these colours rightfully accepted! Out with the old i with the new - I am only 26 so I have a life time to fight this war There is a good theme for a name - lol

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Hello all!!! I have been straining my brain for weeks now trying to think of a suitable name for our exciting new import boy from the UK!!! He is a parti colour boy, but is actually considered a Tri-colour being that he is black, tan and white...... He has a registered name already which is Pommania's Parti down under - so we were trying to keep with the theme, but just can not quite find the "perfect" name ?!?! Some names we have thought of is Thunder, because of parti down under and because he is going to cause a stir in the show scene we hope because of his colour - maybe spellng it Thunda ??, or Trio because he is tri-colour!!! but just not sure What I like in a name! I do like cute names - My current poms names are Bundy, Gucci, Tipsy, Monty - so there is a bit of a theme with the 'i' 'ie' 'y' ending - but really I am not fussed as I really did not plan this!!! I like the 'big strong names' for little dogs, example being 'bruizer' for a chihuahua, Dozer etc???? And I am a fan of keeping in with the 'Parti/party' theme too!!! Being his name is parti down under, maybe giving him a party themed name like DJ, Disco, groover?? These examples are not really suitable as some are already taken by close breeder friends so maybe someone might be able to think up something else His markings do give him a cheeky look with the eyebrow markings so I was trying to think of names that suggest devil or rebel - and showing his colouring in australia will be a little rebelious as well ;) so that might inspire some names?!?! I do also like unique names, as I would really like his name to stand out and be specific to him a lone - our breed seems to have a lot of double ups on names....... ok that about sums up my "likes" in names LOL - seems that is everything that I will be open to suggestion - LOL I have attached pictures of him to help Thank u so much in advance - I am having so much trouble trying to think of names... its hurting my brain...

Hello All! Firstly a belated Merry Christmas to all and a Happy New Year!!! Gosh I have been soooo busy!!! so much happening here with work running up to and during christmas and of course we have our darling mum and babies distracting us - so just have not had the time to pop in here anyway quick update here - everyone is going well - our little girls are now 3 and a half weeks old and now starting to find their feet and play! We have called the darker more smaller girl 'China' hoping to register her as Partipaws Lil China doll and the lighter orange girl we have named Asia, hopefully a registered name like Partipaws Lil Asian Princess??? we will see what gets accepted!!! Glad to see that most received wonderful arrivals for christmas - I have not read through in detail but I hope everyone experienced fairly drama free whelps! all the best to all for the new year! jess