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Depending on the plane and size of the dogs, we could fit 2-3. Yes we could potentially take 1 -3 passengers. The cost is a put off, I agree. This would be something rather exclusive!

Hello! I'm putting out feelers to see if anybody is in need of a private plane to move dogs or cats around Australia. My husband is a pilot and would be flying, I would accompany the animal. This is a service we've been considering offering, not as a job as such, but because I know how frightening animals can find travelling by air. I wanted to offer an option with the pets health in mind. Prices to each airport will be calculated differently, however all flights will leave from Camden Airport in Sydney. If the animal needs to be picked up and dropped off from another location, that would incur further costs. Example of costs: Camden > Gold Coast: $3,952.00 Camden > Dubbo: $1,580.80 Camden > Cowra: $2,277.60 Camden > Adelaide: $6,292.00 My question is, would this be something breeders etc would be interested in? Thanks :)

I don't think Bonnie is really relevant to this directly and I'm reluctant to go off into a tangent on this one as I feel like this thread has finally gotten back on track. I will mention briefly that Bonnie was never set to be adopted directly from the pound. A very reputable rescue group was lined up to take her with an experienced foster carer. This group has some of the best behaviourists in Sydney on board with them should they ever need them, and they are not afraid to make the decision of euthanasia if it is the right thing to do. All pound staff and volunteers were totally confident she would pass the temp test as in three months she never showed any aggression to dogs or people, even dogs that went off at her. One of the main reasons they stuck their neck out for her was for this. The temperament assessment was performed by a vet in his vet surgery (we all know how some dogs can get at the vets), hardly a neutral place and by someone with no behavioural qualifications. It was performed after the dog had been impounded for three months. Again, not really neutral or fair. She apparently reacted to the other dogs there and was failed based on that. She deserved further assessment out of the pound environment, like any other dog would have gotten if they had a great rescue lined up to take them, especially after showing no behavioural issues in the pound. There have been numerous studies done in the USA recently showing that the way an impounded dog reacts in a temperament assessment, even a really well researched and performed one, can differ hugely from day to day and generally does not predict behaviour outside that environment. Unfortunately the legislation set her up to fail and denied her that. I am well aware of the temp test and the vet involved. Why did it take you three months to have Bonnie assesed? A NOI and assesment is a fairly straight forward process. It would have taken a couple of days max. Hi Nic, shoot me a PM if you want more details, but just quickly (I don't want to derail) she was impounded for 2.5 months, it was about 2 weeks into the impound time that the rescue group found out she was there and they sprung into immediate action. There was much paperwork to be done behind the scenes and was dependent on Blacktown Council and the DLG. She was breed assessed by a person appointed by the DLG who declared her a Pitty x, which meant she had to undergo evaluation by another person appointed by the DLG (which was the vet), and it was at this point she failed.

This boy is release to rescue only due to very poor quality back legs that need further investigation.

When we are met with such hostility on line, why would anybody now take the time to phone you CBE and ask the questions posted here on line? Furthermore, when several people are asking the same or similar questions, why not answer them publicly here, instead of potentially taking several phone calls and repeating yourself? I realise I am probably talking to the wind here, CBE has expressed that he will not return, but I just wanted to put those questions out there rhetorically.

I totally agree Steve. I'm not complaining at all about BP now temp testing. :)

PR have stated time and time again that they take the dogs that are left last on the list. In other words, they take the dogs that no other rescue or adopter wants. Quite often that is due to the nature of the animal, and yes I realise many of those left on the list are large bull breeds, sadly many find these much harder to work behaviourally with than a small terrier type (for example) due to size and strength. Therefore, shouldn't this magical group have been screening the adopters thoroughly to ensure they are going into the right home? Shouldn't they be working with the dogs behavioural temperaments PRIOR to adoption or placing into a foster home? Shouldn't they be offering support when the dog is placed into foster care/adoption? I believe they should. Yes both HP and BP are not as strict in their rehoming as private rescues are, unfortunately they don't have that luxury. The staff also have the pressure of either taking a chance and rehoming the animal, or risk euthanasing it a few days later. If push came to shove, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have an easy time euthing the animal when a "what if" situation presented beforehand. Also, I have said this time and time again. Their are worse places for a dog than death. No animal can be stored indefinitely, and the sad fact is that difficult dogs can take longer to place into a foster or adoptive home... so they end up in a kennel situation for months, even years. I've seen perfectly behaved dogs turn into aggressive, self mutilating, highly strung beings after only months in a kennel. I can't imagine what type of hell that is for them to live in.

I havent read through the whole thread.. can anybody enlighten me as to whether a solution to this problem has been found? Cause it's a common one in rescue

Great idea, trakkies make great jumpers! I am happy to be the (volunteer) contact for Hawkesbury Pound :)

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Considering my name is on the top of that list, you'd think I would have heard from the police by now regarding this baiting or whatever else it is that MN thinks I have done...

Pound Rounds: Cease functioning Petition

Not via the media Plan B the media is a good idea if its well thought out and used effectively but there is much to loose here if it gives off any impression that there is a risk in taking rescue dog - again if this is a potential tool it needs to fit in with a strategy plan. . and then MN would just threaten to sue for defamation.

Scenario: You have space for one dog, do you: Take in and spend the time and money, working with a DA or escaping dog OR take the nice re home able dog on the list? Sometimes that is what it comes down to, and we, as the sensible rescuers seeing the bigger picture and are not operating with a bleed heart, trying to save them all. We take the nicer, more well adjusted dog that society will accept. Sucky? yes. But we can only do what we can do. PR have prided themselves on taking the "dogs nobody wants" or "the ones left on the list".. what did they think they would end up with!? Of course they will have a never ending stream of difficult dogs, and hey.. if they were doing the right thing by the dogs and members of the public, then I would be but I'm