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I'd like to try this tonight but we don't do obedience (well except drive training at home) - what does a straight present mean? I assume it means coming round in front of you to face you in sit?

I was searching for dosage of cod liver oil and found this thread. Can anyone tell me what the correct dosage would be. Is it something that shoulld only be given occasionally (due to Vitamin A content)? What other foods are sources of Vitamin A - which might push the vitamin A too high!

Yeah okay what he said, not what I said, must pay better attention at seminars - partial information is worse than no information at all

Ruth asked about that at the aggression seminar, I thought Steve said it was the sound of the air passing through her vocal chords when her mouth was almost closed around the tug (well something like that). I thought lot of dogs growled when playing tug. Jake tries to do crocodile death rolls as well But maybe we didn't witness something as full on as you have MonElite as obviously the dogs' behaviour may have been supressed by the environment at the seminar (PS off topic I didn't realise you were Mon Elite - I thought it was mona light - (spelling changed for pronunciation). Oops. )

Cheers, I tried to photograph mine too but I only have a camera phone and resolution is not that good.

We try to swim at least a few times a week in summer too, no noticeable difference in coat, but I do hose Jake off if he is has been in salty water, otherwise he gets the itches and very dry skin. Still trying to persuade my sister my dog should use the pool but in the meantime I am lucky to live near a couple of off leash swimming areas.

Lime is calcium oxide Bleach is chlorine - hook up to any city water tap and see how much of that we drink. Chlorine is a fairly volatile chemical and wouldnt remain on the hide long especially bcause it's left in the open air hydrogen peroxide is used to make chlorine free products. It also breaks down into O2 and H2O very quickly when exposed to light as it is not the most stable of compounds. It is able to be put directly onto wounds - it doesnt cause cancer or have hideous side effects and you can even drink a solution to make you vomit. As for formaldehyde - well what that would be used for who knows. It is fairly expensive to just process a hide with. Unless its used as a preservative but even then that is not something that is ecanomical to use to preserve an edible product. Thanks Nekhbet, I think the formaldehyde was mentioned in relation to products sourced from o/s (Lucky Dog Chews say made in Thailand) who don't have the same laws as we do. Where would I find blackdog stuff? Is it common in petshops?

Is that the place up on the hill my friend Di calls "the glue factory". Bad taste I know. Whereabouts are they?

oops now I have this thread going in health as well! Are kangaroo tendons dried too - or are they okay? if so where do you get them from.

When I was reading said that there are bad chemicals used to dry and preserve the skin - lime (and I'm not talking fruit) bleach, formaldehide? Something like that, basically lumped them in the same bucket as rawhide. Someone else will be more expert on the chemicals. I agree that the best (well most healthy) stuff would be raw meaty bones. My lot loves lamb necks (usually frozen). It takes them about 30-50min to eat one. They also love roo tails which a bit like lamb necks, maybe slightly smaller. There is heaps of meat on the outside and an bone inside. I get them from a petstore (buy them frozen). Where are you located? Maybe we can help you finding some good meat suppliers? In Sydney, Northern Beaches. I would really like to find somewhere good for chicken stuff too actually as at the mo it is piecemeal for me to get it.

Thanks that would be great. PS he's a staffy x (rescue with a bit of kelpie I think) too. And when you are finished with him I need help with my itchy skin too!!! We both suffer.

When I was reading said that there are bad chemicals used to dry and preserve the skin - lime (and I'm not talking fruit) bleach, formaldehide? Something like that, basically lumped them in the same bucket as rawhide. Someone else will be more expert on the chemicals.

Could've been staph infection, hives or bites... On his tummy are they round spots? Did he have the lumps there? Yes, they sound like scarring from staph infection... that's typically what it looks like, poor Asher has them... I can try and get a pic if you want... or you can try for pic to show us! Can you do me a pic for comparison purposes ! That would be great. I look at them and wonder if I should be worried? They are just as if you had had a rash it had gone down and left you with white discolouration. I don't recall many lumps there, sometimes he used to scratch there and get a bit scabby but I generally he used to be more itchy by his tail and under his armpits. As I said much better now we are off the Eukanuba. He does have quite gooberish eyes tho (that's a technical term don't you know! ) After sleep generally.

For those of us city folk, where do you get roo tail? What does it look like? We have roo sticks here but I think they are just dried stuff again? Is it true that nothing dried is good? Just thinking about my carpets!!!

Apparently they are just as bad for dogs as rawhide chews I'm a bit stumped really, as I want something chewy, but attractive to fuss-arse Jake

I wish he would eat them but he is so fussy. Just takes a look at raw veggies and looks at me as if to say - what are you trying to poison me. Believe you me this is a dog that will turn his nose up even if he is offered the "wrong kind" of human biscuits!!

This is really interesting guys, Jake had lumpy under his armpits, itchy skin during past summers up until last year. I was feeding Eukanuba too Ruth but have changed to Eagle Pack. Have to say his coat is much better and so far no itchies this summer. I have a question too, on Jakes belly the bit with no hair which is generally grey black, there are what looks like white pigmentation spots, flat not raised. Is that likely to be old scar tissue from allergies? it is pretty much over all the hairless bit around his belly button and willy. Not inflamed not itchy?

I posted this in puppy problems cos I'm a doofus. Don't even remember being in there since Jake is 5.5 years old!! Any thoughts much appreciated. We grew up giving out dogs rawhide chew sticks. Jake my dog loves the Lucky Dog ones (the little ones that look like cigarettes). I did not know until I read something here and then did a bit of research that they were so bad for dogs. Now I am worried, I am causing him irreparable harm. (not so "Lucky Dog" ) Can someone please suggest a similar alternative? Jake usually has one or two in the morning after his breakfast while I am still at home, so I am not talking about a large bone to chew on while I am out as he spends 99% of the time indoors (with a dog door) and puts himself to bed while I leave. If I am giving him a large bone, I prefer to be around to supervise. I do give him chicken tips, but again I supervise him as he tends to try and swallow whole. He rejected the carcasses (he's a bit fussy). Is there something chewy but not too big that is a safe alternative?

We grew up giving out dogs rawhide chew sticks. Jake my dog loves the Lucky Dog ones (the little ones that look like cigarettes). I did not know until I read something here and then did a bit of research that they were so bad for dogs. Now I am worried, I am causing him irreparable harm. (not so "Lucky Dog" ) Can someone please suggest a similar alternative? Jake usually has one or two in the morning after his breakfast while I am still at home, so I am not talking about a large bone to chew on while I am out as he spends 99% of the time indoors (with a dog door) and puts himself to bed while I leave. If I am giving him a large bone, I prefer to be around to supervise. I do give him chicken tips, but again I supervise him as he tends to try and swallow whole. He rejected the carcasses (he's a bit fussy). Is there something chewy but not too big that is a safe alternative? ETA: Oops I put this in puppy and not health, can it be moved to health?

Oh hey Jeff ?????????????????????????? Shut up!!! Smarty farty. ETA: I do note that my last post seems to have caused not only a 'cease fire' but also a 'cease conversation altogether' !!! Aah I've come back in and now we have a wedding on the horizon!!! Good to see people getting back on track and playing nice. You all have so much to offer on the subject of canines!

There were countless repllies on the subject.... And as any threads on any forum they evolve, this one evolved to use of an ecollar on a young dog. Still a training tool. Sure Monelite, but this one got personal hence the banding together comment. And I believe one of the rules says don't railroad and don't stray too far off topic. The OP asked about check chains and there wasn't much info provided about those, he asked about the harm, I wouldn't say there were countless replies, countless to-ing and fro-ing about e-collars and protection work with personal barbs thrown in yes. Sure, threads evolve, but there is a fine line between evolution and railroading... Put it this way if this were my post, I dont' feel I would be that pleased at where it ended up and I wouldn't feel my question had been answered at all but just my opinion. All I feel I have learnt AGAIN is that certain people on DOL don't like each other very much so thanks for at at least!! I personally come here to learn, I couldn't give a sh*t about whether so and so likes so and so, bores me senseless. Protection training and referring to paragraphs in handbooks has NOTHING to do with opinions on check chains. Anyway neither does this now so I'm off.

Nice to see all the members of the dog training fraternity banding together to assist someone with a genuine question - NOT Obviously there are some personal grievances here that need to be aired. Isn't that what PM is for or a face to face chat? You are all big enough and ugly enough daresay not to hide behind a thread. AND DON'T ANYONE DARE SAY THEY WEREN'T GETTING PERSONAL We get it, some of you don't have a great deal of respect for the other people's methods. That's life. Anyway I expect the OP is this very minute booking his Aussie Bulldog in for Protection Training Check chain opinions anyone???? Here's mine. We had welsh springer spaniels as kids, they pulled like a train check chain or not. All I remember from my youth is the constant hoarse breathing. Wrongly used I am sure, but we were kids and no one told us any better. Humane tool in the right hands - great. Humane tool in the wrong hands - whatever it be flat collar, prong, check chain, whatever, dangerous.

Guys, The OP owns an "Aussie bulldog" I believe, so I don't they have protection training in mind (pictures the Aussie Bulldog doing bitework ). I know you both have lots of knowledge about lots of canine things. Can you put that brainpower towards helping us "knowledgeless" folks out in regards to the original question??? ETA: Not that it's not interesting and enlightening, but maybe for a separate thread?

I've read this thread with interest, lots of info in here about different things. However, going back to the OP's original question, they are obviously committed to giving their pup the best start in life on a training basis and they have an opportunity to teach good habits to a young pup rather than bad and are obviously keen to do so. As someone already said some of us get our dogs when they have already acquired a couple of bad habits and need tools to assist us in putting them back on the right track in as efficient and thoughtful way as possible. I'd be interested to know if there have been any proven scientific studies about the effects of the use of check chains? Though I am sure this has been raised before so links to a thread would suffice. Similarly for halti's or headcollars? I think a link to any threads about lead training (positive, compulsion etc - sorry not up on terminology) might be good too. All to get the rounded picture. :D PS As a newcomer to training my dog (yes I'm a slow learner cos I've muddled along already with him for 4 years and been lucky he's turned out pretty much alright ) it is hard when you are bombarded with different opinions, things can be confusing. One person will tell you one thing, one person will tell you another and all will swear it is the right answer. For me, I am going to use what works for ME and MY dog. If my dog ever seemed stressed or distressed by any method of training, prong, check chain, halti, time-out whatever, I just wouldn't do it (no I haven't tried them all!). But I don't have a problem with using correction, in fact I just don't understand how you could teach boundaries or limitations in any other way (even if you don't call it a correction it is still a negative reinforcement in some way shape or form - semantics as far as I am concerned). All creatures surely learn through experience (ourselves included) good and bad and since we live in a world with limitations there has to be some way of reinforcing them.

Mina, I am very sorry to hear this. As someone already said this may be why he was in the pound. Thomas my father's welsh springer spaniel passed away at 8 from a massive grand mal seizure, it is extremely distressing to watch and my father was so devastated by it he ended up hospitalised with pneumonia. Thomas had the very occasional petit mal (small) seizure in previous years, but then suddenly it just escalated into one massive one. Be kind to yourself, you were trying to save this boy, you could not have known it would end up like this. :nahnah: RIP little man.