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A man simply approaching women in an aggressive manner is generally enough to make them back off if they were attacking his wife, there was no need for him to use a weapon and after he hit the first lady was it really necessary to continue the attack on the second? The puppy should have been under effective control and if it was this wouldn't have happened, not that his behaviour was justified at all but his family had the right to enjoy feeding the ducks too.

We sell them at work and I have all of the horse ones for my big animals

When I was on the Dog & Cat Management Board Forum we discussed the increase in bite statistics and how a high majority were family dogs in their own yards, one of the possible reasons for the increases were the fact that Councils had tightened laws so much that people were no longer walking/socialising their dogs like they used too. When dogs met other dogs and learnt social skills etc etc.

When my two colts were gelded a couple of months ago they were not clipped at the vein site and my OH said that when my old boy was pts a couple of months ago they didn't shave him either.

I think they should tie him with a chain and collar to a post in the middle of the prisioners exercise yard (wearing a tutu and pink bodysuit) and feed him out of bowls - if they remember

What breed is he Kirislin? Poor little angel

I hope he has to wear a pink collar and they change his name to b!tch

I believe the people they are referring to our puppy farmers, the kind of people this forum despises, the kind of people I would think we would all want prosecuted. Exactly the kind of people that would stir trouble in their area to take attention off themselves. Actually people that have had threads written about them on this forum criticising their practices What was posted were parts of personal correspondance and I agree that perhaps the poster should have posted relevant information regarding the horse only

Thank you KatrinaM and no luckily he didn't founder, I caught him very early on and spent the night walking him around in the dark while he was trying to impress the mares he was only 5 months old and they weren't very interested in him but it got him moving around. I fully understand how personal circumstances can affect how people view an organisation, I personally detest one that I worked for but keep that to myself . It is a shame though as I know several animal loving, fully dedicated people that work for the RSPCA and I know that they put their heart and soul into their work and in many cases their home.

In this case we are talking about several vets including a specialist equine vet at CSU, not just one vet. Many vets misdiagnose animals and that is why I always get second opinions if the outcome is not good, but in this case there were many people that made the decision and this was clearly a reoccuring issue with this particular horse. I myself have had several animals where vets have said to euthanase and after getting different opinions it turns out that they were orginally misdiagnosed. I am very glad that your pony survived as I have said earlier I have lost 2 to colic and thankfully my new colt survived his grain gorge.

Maybe it is the RSPCA's protocol, maybe there were ongoing issues with the horse that they wanted to monitor - I really don't know. If the horse was a windsucker and they had been told this was no longer an issue maybe they wanted to monitor that the horse was not doing it anymore before the adoption process started. If a dog had behavioural issues that had a constant affect on it's health and the foster carer told the rescue org that it was cured would you take the carers word for it or would the rescue org want to make sure that the issue was resolved? I believe that the horse was obviously unwell and several vets made the difficult decision to euthanase in the horses best interest, I also believe the foster carer was made aware of that possibilty before it happened and agreed to abide by their decision regarding the outcome, the horse was disposed of in a manner that is apparently acceptable in that area. I do not know the situation before or during the horses stay at the foster carers or anything up to the point of the day of euthanasia. I also know the RSPCA has admitted errors regarding customer service. Would any of these issue have made the outcome any different I really don't know, could it have been handled better by all involved - clearly. My heart breaks for the horse and no doubt the foster carer was shattered but it seems that she was kept informed on the day that Brandy was put down, is this any comfort probably not and I making excuses for or supporting the RSPCA - no.

Again, I suggest that the comments MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DIRECTED at this particular forum. Jaxx'sBuddy I believe that all foster animals must be returned to the RSPCA so that they can undertake their final health check, wolfgirl71's post seems to verify that. If people do a search on the subject various comments from different areas/forums have been quite negative, maybe the comments in Wolfgirl71's email were directed there. I am sure if those of you are offended regarding those lines email RSPCA QLD direct you may get clarification regarding that, but to see a line and take it personally when in fact it probably wasn't is causes further anger for maybe no reason

I am sure the line you are referring to isn't aimed at this forum rather than other media in which this case has been mentioned, however I am sure they would equally be as appalled by some of the comments aimed at them regarding this case. I believe that the line that was bolded was aimed at non pure bred people so just because that email was quoted on this forum doesn't mean it was directly personally to any posters here. It seems apparent that the foster carer was made aware of the horses condition on the day it was euthanased, which is something that legally they did not have to do as she belonged to the RSPCA. It seems the foster carer agreed to go by the vets decision which has not been mentioned previously and as I said earlier it made no sense that everyone would collude together out of the pure fact that they wanted to be nasty. There seems to be more questions now that some facts have been brought to light, but again I can not see various vets plus another from James Cook University colluding together. Unfortunately to get the whole story you need full truths on all sides and as any animal issue is highly emotional the chances of everyone being totally honest is highly doubtful.

Just a question to the horsey people if you had a horse that had reoccurring colic that was having a relapse and you had sought the advice of your local Equine Vets including a Senior Vet and an Equine Expert from James Cook University and they all agreed that the best course of action was euthanasia would you do it? I personally would myself but I am interested in genuine answers. I have lost two ponies to colic before, one when I was achild and another mini that kept reoccuring and after the third time he didn't pull through. My new colt went down 3 days after getting him which I believe was because of having too much grain (my fault) but he recovered very quickly as I kept walking him in the paddock with mares and he bounced around like a dufous. This is just a personal question

I personally have my dogs and cats cremated and I always ring a friend who is a supervisor at the crematorium to tell him that my animal is coming in and ask that he takes care of them. Whether or not that happens I don't know but it makes me feel better. I recently had to have my old horse put down luckily we have a tractor and excavator so my OH could bury him, but from what I understand it was a huge job but one that I am so grateful that he did for me.

This is also a genuine question. What do people think really happens to their pets when they are euthanased? The pets that people leave at the vets or shelters etc, obviously not the ones that are cremated or taken home for burial. I do not understand the difference between dumping the body of someones beloved pet dog or any other animal I believe that we just don't know what happens after the fact. I am appalled that the foster carer was not told the truth about the disposal of Brandy, I believe that if euthanasia had been decided by a group of vets than the carer should have been given the option to have the horse euthanased on her property if she wanted to bury her herself. In most cases there are not happy endings where pets get buried in a cemetary unless owners pay for it. Have people asked their vets what really happens to the bodies of their pets or are we happy in the belief that what we don't know won't hurt us? I still can't believe that animals and animal waste are dumped in open tips, as I stated earlier I thought that they would have to be incinerated. But after working in a shelter and seeing the bodies of strays and owners euthanasias dumped in wheelie bins and put in the freezer until the refuse company collects them I would personally never leave my pets for anyone but me to bury or have them organised to be cremated.

I keep thinking about this and I just can't physically get my head around the thought that anyone would be so cruel as to euthanase an animal out of spite, especially if the story was in the media it just does not make sense to me. Why would the RSPCA incur extra veterinary and disposal fees just to be pricks? There has to be more to the story, I understand that a lot of people have had bad dealings with them and have ingrained dislike of the organisation so trust is a major issue which I fully understand. It would have been a simpler and easier option just to sell the horse back to the carer and then the bad press goes away, surely the people at the RSPCA did not take delight in purposely slaughtering a horse that had been in care for seven months. Just another question - are members of the public allowed to walk into an animal carcass dump? This also seems unusual to me, surely there are health restrictions etc that would not permit this. Regarding burial of the body many shelters/vets etc send all deceased animals to a refuse company that dispose of the bodies, however I was under the impression that the bodies were incinerated. I do not know of shelters that actually bury animals themselves. I am in no way supporting the actions of the RSPCA but my head can not get around this story as it just seems to, well to put it honestly evil if the comments are true.

I use the live traps and then gas them as we have a CO2 set up for rats/mice for the bird of prey food (that is bred, not wild).

I was under the impression that foster carers were made aware that if they foster an animal and then decide to adopt then they were still required to pay the adoption fee but I also believed (clearly misguidely) that expenses were covered. When I fostered my little dogs mum and her 3 puppies for 14 weeks I still had to pay full price for her and I worked for the organisation (not RSPCA). Actually come to think about it, all expenses were incurred by me. What a horrible outcome for the mare, I just don't understand why they would take an apparently healthy horse off site for observation for colic if she wasn't shown any signs at the time. There has to be more to the story because if not it is a disgrace.

Sorry but my first reaction was that I know Quilette's did - sorry, but I couldn't help it

There is no excuse for bashing the dog but there is also NO EXCUSE why this dog is still allowed to roam. Going by his owners lack of responsibility I believe that the poor dog won't have a very long life span. Contain your animal for his own safety

My breeder gave me a $200 refund when I got my boy desexed, the refund wasn't an incentive in my case but I think that it would be for puppy buyers

I listened to the 911 call, no sounds of desperation by the caller in fact he sounded barely coherent. He hadn't even gone in the room to check if the baby was dead or alive, didn't know how old he was etc. I hope that it wasn't the babies father or else it makes the tragedy even worse. It actually sounded if he said there were dogs plural, not one dog but he was very hard to understand. Again RIP little angel

Poor bloody dog, sounds like a car to me too. There are too many could have beens too as the dog was out regularly, could have been a pitty hater, could have been a parent that was sick of seeing the dog out whose own child may have been attacked by another dog, it could have been anything. Not many people have spare star droppers to carry around and I am sure to do that damage you would need a hell of a lot of force behind the strike. I hope the poor bugger recovers and doesn't have to many behavioural and physical implications in his recovery. It would be interesting to see if he started showing aversions to vehicles or more to humans. Another good example of ensuring that your dog is adequately contained in the saftey of your yard

In this case the dog was in the other peoples yard, how is that not the owners fault? The victims dog was contained, it was attacked in IT'S own yard. As with your farmer comment should we be expected to cyclone fence km's of fenceline because the irresponsible twat down the road won't contain their own dog? People need to be responsible for their own and their dogs actions, parents need to be responsible for their children also but there is NO EXCUSE for a dog to get into someone elses yard and kill another animal. Blaming legislation, RSPCA etc etc gets you nowhere and in fact continuous criticism will only result in harsher laws, if you constantly butt heads with these organisations how can anyone expect anything positive to come from any dealings with them. People need to start taking responsiblity for their own actions. Being a parent and a pet owner are not just rights they are responsibilities, how many animals and children must suffer before people can understand that?