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I am sorry for your loss Sharon, hugs and kisses from me and my family

Claire you know how sincerely I offer my condolensces to you and your family and even though she has left a huge hole in your heart you filled hers with the love of a family in her last few months and that is truly a very special gift.

I think I have a couple of those left, what size do you need? I will check what we have tonight and put a list in the marketplace

Have you got a pic of the particular ones Ruthless as they change the designs every year and this season they said to suppliers that it may be a once only buy as they may not do repeat orders. We have discontinued buying wagwear since Nestle bought out KraMar as they are too hard to deal with. I am clearing out all old stock at 45% off but we mainly have the big sizes left

I can't wait to get a peke and I am going to keep her clipped off including ears and tail, they look gorgeous. I want either a white or white with cream markings. I used to groom a lot of them and I adore them

Chewie has he got hind dewclaws? Just an observation really

Animal lover of most things we have a dog, a cat, 2 ponies, 3 horses, 2 donkeys, 3 camels, about 150 sheep, 2 fallow deer (with 3 more coming in the next couple of weeks), 1 cow, 3 alpacas, 4 kangaroos, emus, kookaburras, bettongs, peacocks, guinea pigs, bearded dragons, barking geckoes, chicken, turkey, galah, rainbow lorikeet, turtles, rabbits etc. On the list to come in the future are different species of wallabies (including yellow footed rock wallaby, bennets, swamp, albino dama and pademelon), bettongs, fruit bats, bison or water buffalo, ostrich, gliders, water dragons, monitors, a couple more horses/ponies and a few other species but this is our long term plans for our property/family I am sure I have forgotten some but all of them are as special as each other and keep me very busy and they eat better than we do

Sandgrubber as a former (and hopefully future) custodian of one of lilli's dogs I know that she offers support throughout the life of the dog. She selects pups for individuals and their lifestyle/circumstances and experience. I hold a very great respect for her due to that, I am very honest about my experience with the CAO breed and I hold it it the upmost regard. There are other CAO breeders that I can approach for a pup and yet I have made the decision to wait for as long as it takes as I know that she will do the best for her chosen breed, the pup and the the owner for the long term

Horrid situation but good on the RSPCA for stating that it the deed not the breed

I voted a few days ago

A note from the Chairman - on the ground in Indonesia Dear MLA member, On Tuesday, I stressed that MLA’s priority is the urgent implementation of measures to assure the welfare of Australian cattle in Indonesia. Only this will give Government the confidence to reopen the livestock export trade. With that in mind, I’d like to provide you with an update on the activities that industry is currently undertaking on the ground in Indonesia. The Industry–Government Working Group on Live Animal Exports – of which MLA is an integral part – is developing a stringent supply chain assurance program from the vessel to the feedlot and on to the point of processing, verified by the use of a traceability system. MLA has a team of experts working with the Indonesian cattle importers to further improve standards at the 25 best facilities processing Australian cattle. Increased stunning There are now 11 Indonesian facilities using stunning equipment. Building on the five that were already in use, we have assisted another two facilities to install stunning equipment and an Indonesian importer has supplied another four facilities. A further three facilities have been identified to have stunning installed as a priority. Expert training has been delivered with the MLA/Livecorp team providing additional technical support. Improved infrastructure A program to review abattoir infrastructure and design has commenced. This will develop alternative options based on a Temple Grandin standing slaughter design, which will allow for both stunning and processing in the standing position. Designs will consider local conditions, including the lack of electricity, and skill levels to allow it to be manually operated. OIE compliance assurance program An audit checklist for all sectors of the livestock import trade in Indonesia will be used to assess whether their operations comply with OIE standards. Individual feedlots and abattoirs will need to have management procedures in place for staff training, maintaining equipment, feed programs, management of cattle and slaughter procedures. Traceability of cattle within Indonesia A team is urgently developing a traceability system for Indonesia. This will require importers to trace animals from the vessel into the feedlot, and then out of the feedlot and into the abattoir. Training animal welfare officers MLA will train 30 animal welfare officers during June. These animal welfare officers will be stationed in all facilities processing Australian cattle. The training will cover animal handling training, Halal slaughter practices, standard operating procedures, hygiene and stunning training. Increased training for Indonesian abattoir workers A team of eight Australian stock handling experts have conducted intensive training programs in 10 key facilities over the past two weeks. By 24 June there will be a team of 15–20 stock handling experts conducting training at 20 processing facilities. The work that our staff are doing on the ground in Indonesia is absolutely critical to improving the welfare of Australian cattle processed in Indonesia. This, in turn, will give Government renewed confidence in the trade so they can promptly re-open it. We also hope that increasing animal welfare standards in these key Indonesian facilities will give impetus to animal welfare initiatives across the Indonesian industry. It will not be easy, but we are committed to the speedy resumption of the trade to Indonesia. Yours faithfully, Don Heatley Chairman Meat & Livestock Australia

While this is getting sorted the cattle are stuck in holding pens Media on cattle at wharves Export ban risks starvation 'on an unprecedented scale' June 14, 2011 Comments 18 Up to 5000 head of cattle marked for export but now left in limbo at Nick Thorne's export yard south of Darwin since the federal governments ban on live exports. Photo: Glenn Campbell Full index of stories The Federal Parliament's sole veterinarian says Australia faces its own animal welfare disaster if 150,000 cattle cannot be exported. The Gillard government has suspended the live cattle trade to Indonesia following a television report showing some abattoirs using brutal killing methods. Advertisement: Story continues below The suspension could last for up to six months pending an investigation into the supply chain to ensure that international standards are upheld. But Chris Back, a Liberal senator and vet who specialises in cattle welfare, told a joint party room meeting in Canberra there was an urgent need to come to the aid of export cattle at wharves and other places. Senator Back said the trade should be resumed immediately to the six big abattoirs in Indonesia that currently exceeded international standards. That would cater for about half of the 13,000 cattle now on Australian wharves. He said that, unless exports were resumed, within three to four weeks more than 150,000 cattle would be too heavy to be exported and too underweight to be brought south to domestic abattoirs. Unless they were to be shot they would have to be set loose on the rangelands of northern Australia, he said, which would be an "animal welfare disaster". "We will see starvation of animals on an unprecedented scale and an environmental catastrophe on the rangelands that will take 100 years to recover from," Senator Back told the meeting. Indian cattle, which would replace Australian exports to Indonesia, could reintroduce foot and mouth disease to the archipelago, which could in turn threaten the Australian industry. The live cattle debate dominated most of the Liberal-Nationals party room meeting, with 15 members speaking on this issue. It was also an issue in the Labor caucus, with a motion passing unanimously for live cattle exports to Indonesia not to resume until "all slaughterhouses receiving Australian cattle comply with international standards, encouraging the use of stunning and requiring ongoing independent monitoring". But the motion appeared to be a watered-down version of that originally intended by some members of the Labor caucus who want a phasing out of all live exports, in favour of a bigger domestic industry. Meanwhile, peak industry body Meat and Livestock Australia has rejected a request from the federal government to use contingency funds to help cattle growers affected by the suspension of the trade with Indonesia. Agriculture Minister Joe Ludwig has written to the MLA proposing it release $5 million in contingency funding. Senator Ludwig said the MLA was ‘‘critically placed’’ to help the industry through the suspension period.The minister also warned he was prepared to force MLA to release the funding. MLA chairman Don Heatley said in a statement this afternoon his organisation had declined the minister’s request. ‘‘The industry’s priority is to direct available resources into implementing urgent measures in Indonesia to assure the welfare of Australian cattle and give government the confidence to reopen the trade,’’ Mr Heatley said. ‘‘Reinstating this trade under an accredited supply chain is the most effective means to provide financial security to cattle producers and businesses across northern Australia.’’ Mr Heatley said the MLA was focused on resuming the live cattle trade with Indonesia, but would ‘‘engage with government to find a practical solution’’. AAP Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/export-ban-risks-starvation-on-an-unprecedented-scale-20110614-1g1d5.html#ixzz1PQXy8TH1

I don't understand as I thought you had a breeders prefix and had a show bitch for breeding and were looking into co ownership of another. As someone who has gone to the effort of registering a pre fix I would have thought you woul have looked into the situation more closely and then just saying that you may just sell it off in the Trading Post is a pretty poor attitude for a Registered breeder to have I was wondering if it was one of the pair of neos that have been getting advertised quite a bit down here?

We are heading back from Victoria atm and just drove past a free range turkey farm and saw a maremma in with them just as I was reading this thread

What will you do with her Steve? When I was waiting for 2 years for my pup I wanted to call it Asha . I know the RSB had a bitch puppy a few years ago that they were going to see how she went but don't know if she passed the training, I wouldn't have thought they would be suitable though

Having had a lgd with all types of animals from guinea pigs, emus, donkeys, roos etc the main issue is that roos are highly flighty and at night the movement can be unpredicatable meaning if a roo scares and the dog doesn't immediately recognise what it is their protection drive can kick in. I trusted Jake with many of my animals but not in with the roos he was with them when they were pouched but not loose in the pen. I had Jake in with mine quite a lot when I was with him and one of his favouritte spots to lie was along the fence with the kaangaroos but I personally wouldn't have been 100% confident to leave him unsupervised for long periods of time just in case they got a spook and started to fence run. Saying this he was brilliant with them when they were calm, he specially loved the emus and they would actually play with each other and sleep together

Ooh the very first tea cup maremma perfect for guarding backyard budgie cages, I think we need photographic evidence of this little angel

Next to my dwarfed mini cow she would look like a normal sized Maremma

I was originally on a waiting list for 2 years with a breeder for a Maremma and in the end gave up and found CAO's which was a better suit to us I think. The one thing that really put me off of the Maremma in the end was the stories of excessive barking, even though we are on property we have 9 neighbours that border our property and I was worried about the noise. I believe that they bark to warn off intruders whereas the CAO will be more proactive in removing threats. There are 2 x 18 month olds advertised down here at the moment (different owners) and both are on properties and 1 the ad says he is a barker "As is typical of his breed, he does bark alot." and the other is being rehomed due to wandering. I know all breeds have their own stories of behavioural traits but can barking on small properties become a real issue? I used to work with a girl that had maremmas to guard her show dogs and I absolutely adored them and these two made me want one for several years.

Many registered breeders do not show their dogs, however unless you are registered with your canine association it would be considered backyard breeding. I suggest contacting your breeder for guidance and /or mentoring so that you can make informed decisions

Oh I know which one and it is the breeder I was thinking of, they are the pugxfrenchie cross frenchie pups going there. I think brindle ones and possibly a pied from what I was told

It is a bit like last year they had a campaign for not buying pets as presents and then a couple of days before Xmas advertised they were staying open late and having a sausage sizzle so why not come down an adopt a pet

If that is the person that I am thinking of her base line breeding dogs are mains registered and she has recently had a litter with a bitch from the first litter to a piebald frenchie dog. Was that shop in the Adelaide Hills?

What about grooming Steve? Don't they have problems with undercoat and burrs if not groomed regularly and if they are left with the flock with minimal human contact how do they go with being handled for grooming/medical procedures?

That is what worries me as I have mini ponies including one in her 30s and a really tiny mini cow apart from the others and the female emu free ranges with the camels/stallion and donkey gelding. She is a complete biatch and chases the horse and donkey when she is a mood but I am more worried about her being chased and hurting herself This is Miss Tiny (lowline) and she is fully grown at 2 1/2 years old and Drummer "playing" with Diego in the same paddock as the ewe was down. I don't think the camels would tolerate anything chasing her as she is incredibly bonded with the bull camel. Everything is weird here, they all bond with strange companions Steve it isn't fair to post polar bear puppy photos