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i think that if a dog has a halti on and the dog walker doesnt know what they are doing and pulls on the halti too hard then it can cause a neck injury

Just goes to show never assume anything on DOL - a few pages back on 1 or 2, I thought shall I ask if the OP is a registered breeder? but then thought nah must be there are all these DOL groupies probably someone knows the OP and the OP just doesn't know how to post on the breeder's forum ........... but anyway here we are and yes Jamieson you are welcome to post but you will find that unreg breeders are not encouraged and generally get less groupies not because they are inherently bad or care for their dogs less but because there is an unwritten DOL ethos that is about improving the standards of dog breeding and dog ownerhsip. As an unregisterd breeder, you counter that. HOWEVER there is no need to go screaming into the night An unregistered breeder can become a registered breeder and there are always direct ways of doing thigns as well as the long wayward way; Im not against the latter, I seem to be prone to it. What state are you in? If you enjoy learning about dog breeding, then I think you will find being a registered breeder and the knowledge circles this can impart - to be beneficial and of long standing interest. whilst i agree with this in part lilli, i have asked the OP several questions regarding the health of the sire and bitch and again the OP has omitted to answer. so here we have an unplanned litter with dubious genetics and a potential litter of puppies that will go to owners with no desexing policy....now where in all of that is responsible breeding? the bitch could have been desexed after the mating, the sire could have been desexed. there are many things that could have been done to ensure this "accident" doesn't happen again but i suspect another accident may happen. i have also asked what is it about both those dogs that adds to the betterment of the breed, apart from proximity to each other? ETS whilst the OP does not need to answer those questions, they cannot have it both ways, either start on the path to being a responsible breeder and get support from members of this forum, or dont answer the questions and look like a BYB. Probably (I assume) the OP didn't know or wasn't aware of their importance. Ultimately you can only do what you are aware of and this is dependent on your current knowledge and exposure and future learning (irrespective whether this is right or not). To breeding 'responsbily' isn't automatic but comes through knowledge. A few years ago I came across a BYB in Vic - dogs were kept in appaling conditions and not administered the vet treatment when needed - there was a language and culture barrier. So I would come past and bring ABs for the dogs, fox mange treatmenr etc and then we would discuss what the best dogs look like, the lineage of their dogs and where they came from; phyiscal traits and the bloodlines these came from ... now they are a very good breeder and registered. I dont know what the OP intends or cares for but I figure to take your dog to the vet three times, shows a genuine concern for their dogs health and welfare. From concern for the health and welfare of your dog, can grow concern for the long term heath and welfare of your puppies, and from there concern and welfare for the health and welfare of your breed. Once you see as part of a breed, and breed these dogs as an important part of the breed's continuam, everything else falls into place. again, i agree lilli but it is a really thin line in an online forum where all we have are words. i appreciate the work you put into the byb you turned around and i respect what you did. i dont believe i have been too harsh on the OP. what i am trying to do is to get them to see that there is more to breeding than letting 2 dogs mate. there is no question in my mind that that the OP is concerned about the bitch and is looking after her the best they can BUT lets call a spade a spade. I cannot betray the ethical responsible breeders that i know by accepting that the OP has good breeding practices. a responsible breeder looks at: - the lineage of their dogs and breeds to suit the betterment of the breed and for what they are looking for. - they health check their dogs BEFORE mating as this is part of what determines the betterment of the breed questions. - they think about who they will sell their puppies to and under what terms they will sell their puppies including their desexing policy - ethical responsible breeders expect to take any dogs they have bred back no matter how old they are as they have a lifetime commitment to the dogs - ethical breeders do this because they dont want their dogs to end up in pounds excacebating the issues - ethical responsible breeders also often work with rescues as their commitment to dogs in general - and tons more than this the OP has not answered the basic critical question for this breed, have the parents been hip scored and if so were the results good enough for a breeding program. if they havent done this critical health check then i cannot support them because the new owners who buy their puppies and fall in love with them may have years of heartache and expense fixing hip problems. then when they have to pts early and their hearts are breaking they will have learnt a very costly lesson, which is not to buy puppies from BYB's.

and another BYB who in all likelyhood will not take a lifetime responsibility for the offspring of their pets. so any problems that the new owners may have with the puppies/dogs and they are more likely than not to wind up in the pound and therby further contributing to the problem. and to top it off, they are here asking for help to whelp this litter...i find that very hard to stomach.

Just goes to show never assume anything on DOL - a few pages back on 1 or 2, I thought shall I ask if the OP is a registered breeder? but then thought nah must be there are all these DOL groupies probably someone knows the OP and the OP just doesn't know how to post on the breeder's forum ........... but anyway here we are and yes Jamieson you are welcome to post but you will find that unreg breeders are not encouraged and generally get less groupies not because they are inherently bad or care for their dogs less but because there is an unwritten DOL ethos that is about improving the standards of dog breeding and dog ownerhsip. As an unregisterd breeder, you counter that. HOWEVER there is no need to go screaming into the night An unregistered breeder can become a registered breeder and there are always direct ways of doing thigns as well as the long wayward way; Im not against the latter, I seem to be prone to it. What state are you in? If you enjoy learning about dog breeding, then I think you will find being a registered breeder and the knowledge circles this can impart - to be beneficial and of long standing interest. whilst i agree with this in part lilli, i have asked the OP several questions regarding the health of the sire and bitch and again the OP has omitted to answer. so here we have an unplanned litter with dubious genetics and a potential litter of puppies that will go to owners with no desexing policy....now where in all of that is responsible breeding? the bitch could have been desexed after the mating, the sire could have been desexed. there are many things that could have been done to ensure this "accident" doesn't happen again but i suspect another accident may happen. i have also asked what is it about both those dogs that adds to the betterment of the breed, apart from proximity to each other? ETS whilst the OP does not need to answer those questions, they cannot have it both ways, either start on the path to being a responsible breeder and get support from members of this forum, or dont answer the questions and look like a BYB.

Not to those who understand that oedema is simply the medical terminology for swelling (and swelling isn't necessarily painful). Umm, how? Unless your vet has as little experience as you seem to with whelping, then I doubt any vet would say this as all bitches have a swollen vulva at the end of pregnancy... just like all female mammals do. A swollen vulva has nothign to do with a dilated cervix. The only way to know if the cervix IS dilated is to do an internal... I know what odema is and he did not say all bitches have a swollen vulva at the end of pregnancy ( please read the post more carefully)! He said because of this it is easy to mistake dilation when doing an internal ( she has only had 1!) Im not sure where you are coming from now and you are clearly misreading my posts. Im sorry of I have offended you and feel that any more posts will me misread by you also. You really underestimate vets , perhaps you dont use them? maybe have a read of the forum rules before you post anything that has a personal dig at forum members as it is not allowed.

Its Jamieson here. Thought I needed to reply to a couple of posts... I have never used a forum like this before and my 2 dogs are purebreed and registered!!! However I do concede that I did not plan to breed at this time , however I am responsible for my male dog having access to Pearl as she had a very quiet heat and I missed the early stages. So no... not a planned litter, hence the confusion with dates etc. I have to say that I have really appreciated the very helpful and caring answeres of many very experienced people on this forum. However I wish some of you would read the posts more carefully'.... as I have never said Pearl has had 3 internals and she certainly has not been prodded and poked more than nessecary to make sure she is safe. If I had not taken her to the vet would you say that I was negligent and not caring for her and risking her and the puppies lives... I cant win really! I am a very dedicated dog owner and my dogs and 2 cats are in top condition, live in my house and are part of our very loving family. I owned border collies years ago and had experince with whelping with them. Again they were very well cared for and I have some real knowlege. I think that people should feel safe to ask questions if it will assist an animal. I Know many registered breeders ( freinds) who have many questions when whelping arrives and even though very knowlegable they also are not afraid to ask for assistance to assist them and thier animals. I am not going to divulge any more about my identity at this time , I have done nothing wrong and have nothing to be ashamed of,however I will post some photos when I work out how to. I would like to stay with this thread and share the birth of Pearls pups with those of you who have been very interested and helpful. Please drop the smart remarks , I just wanted to share my experience and get some good advice , not because I am clueless but because I thought this looked like a good place to post a thread and recive some intelligent answers. i think people are asking not just whether your dogs are registered but whther you are a registered breeder. can you let us know if you are a registered breeder because there is a difference between your dogs being registered and you being registered snap blab As yet I am not registerd as a breeder but my dogs are registered. I did not intend to breed my dogs at this stage, so have not become registered. However I am not a byb in it for profit and have had experince in the past as stated. So no these pups cant be registered but does that make them any differnt??? I will find very responsible homes for them. I think I have been very open here and appreciate what you are saying however I just wanted some sound birthing advice to assist Pearl and add to my prior knowlege. I trust my vet and you dont get better qualified than a good vet with a degree in animal science and experience to match. What else can I say? Does this mean I cant access this forum? Because that would be a real shame given the wealth of knowlege and genuine care many people show for dogs here. I have enjoyed talking with people and have not quizzed anyone on their credentials! honestly, any person who breeds dogs whose puppies cannot be registered is a BYB. no ifs and no buts. also, what did both your dogs genetics contribute to the betterment of the breed? what are their hip scores? what guarentee will you give your puppy buyers? what is your desexing policy? there are many more questions like these that are asked of registered breeders

yep i think this topic has to go if this "breeder" is a byb. no more assistance can be given cause it is against the rules.

my pupy did this for a while so as soon as she touched my feet or jeans i stopped and did not move until she got distracted with something else, i used to throw a treat away from me so she went to get it (i always kept treats in my pockets. then i praised her. this worked well for her. i think it is the movement that excites them and they have no self control. so we have to show them what to do. oh and a loud Oi!!!! did the trick as well

Its Jamieson here. Thought I needed to reply to a couple of posts... I have never used a forum like this before and my 2 dogs are purebreed and registered!!! However I do concede that I did not plan to breed at this time , however I am responsible for my male dog having access to Pearl as she had a very quiet heat and I missed the early stages. So no... not a planned litter, hence the confusion with dates etc. I have to say that I have really appreciated the very helpful and caring answeres of many very experienced people on this forum. However I wish some of you would read the posts more carefully'.... as I have never said Pearl has had 3 internals and she certainly has not been prodded and poked more than nessecary to make sure she is safe. If I had not taken her to the vet would you say that I was negligent and not caring for her and risking her and the puppies lives... I cant win really! I am a very dedicated dog owner and my dogs and 2 cats are in top condition, live in my house and are part of our very loving family. I owned border collies years ago and had experince with whelping with them. Again they were very well cared for and I have some real knowlege. I think that people should feel safe to ask questions if it will assist an animal. I Know many registered breeders ( freinds) who have many questions when whelping arrives and even though very knowlegable they also are not afraid to ask for assistance to assist them and thier animals. I am not going to divulge any more about my identity at this time , I have done nothing wrong and have nothing to be ashamed of,however I will post some photos when I work out how to. I would like to stay with this thread and share the birth of Pearls pups with those of you who have been very interested and helpful. Please drop the smart remarks , I just wanted to share my experience and get some good advice , not because I am clueless but because I thought this looked like a good place to post a thread and recive some intelligent answers. i think people are asking not just whether your dogs are registered but whther you are a registered breeder. can you let us know if you are a registered breeder because there is a difference between your dogs being registered and you being registered snap blab

and for me this is what makes dogs such fun. if they were that predictable then they would be like those robot dogs you can buy...no fun at all.

nothing to do with the OP but there must be other forums for byb's. in any case this forum is not for byb's and I think we deserve to have a clear indication of what it is we are supporting. absolutely agree with this

nothing to do with the OP but there must be other forums for byb's. in any case this forum is not for byb's

my dog has shown 100% recall. if i am in the house and she is outside and i call her. she rockets in to see me. she got out one day and was on the street and when i called her she rocketed back to me. i think she has shown 100% recall (she has never not come to me) but i would never say she had 100% recall because one day she might find something more interesting or more important than me, its just that i havent found what it is yet.

when i was looking for my dog, a Boston Terrier i called just about every breeder in aus and NZ because they are very hard to come by. i had never owned this breed before but had researched them and thought our temperments would be a good fit...and they are!! i think the first breeder i called got all the dumb questions but by the time i got to the last one the questions were not so dumb. the reason, because some very kind and patient breeders spent hours on the phone with me. i was so impressed and boy did they show me what good customer service was. not only did they educate me, they told me which breeders they thought might have litters coming up, gave me their phone numbers and helped me in many ways even though they were not going to make a sale because they had no puppies. i will be forever grateful to them for this help because through patience, perseverance and their help i got my puppy. i think it depends what you are trying to do as to whether it is time wasting or not.

i suspect this may be the truth unfortunately and i know nothing about this case. sometimes i do see animals kept alive when it would have been more humane to pts. sometimes this takes a greater humanity.

no worries, thank you for letting us know.

i agree that there are many people at the grass roots of the organisation that are doing what they can, but what we are talking about here is organisational ineptitude and a culture of arrogance within the organisation management.

my interest in this is process and transparency of organisations. i see many organisations that lose the hearts and minds of the public because either their processes are poor and/or there is no transparency in what they do. it appears that this is the case with the rspca. they do have the responsibility to have clear understandable processes and to be transparent in all they do because they ask and get money from the public and therfore should be under a lot of scrutiny. it seems to me that the rspca, given the email we have seen from their media guy, belittles any critisism or scrutiny and that is what causes me to be concerned. if there is no problems with what they are doing then they wouldn't care who weas asking questions becsue they would have nothing to hide. not only that but if their processes were clear and there was transparency there would be very few questions left for them to answer. with people having less to give to charities the rspca would do well to think about all their stakeholders

yep they can film the dog barking but they must not trespass on your property to get the video, and trespassing includes leaning over the fence

the poster then had a responsibility to explain the email rather than just post it. regardless of this he has undermined his credibility because he clearly sees all negative comments as coming from people who have an agenda. as i said before this futher exacebates the rspca's stakeholder management problems and they do have this problem

hmm....ok i will accept that but it should have been made clear. look my only issue is why was the horse moved when it could have been easily checked out at the place it had been living for 7 months. if this questions was answered then i would be happy

now this annoyed me. i have commented on this post and i am appalled that i am being seen as someone who the rspca is prosecuting or one of their friends and that because of this i have a somewhat skewed view of the situation. i am none of those and if this is how the rspca media and community relations person sees genuine concerns then they need a lesson on how to manage stakehiolders. this is outrageous.

BUT OTHER RESCUE GROUPS ARE NOT ACTING AS A QUASI POLICE FORCE and not accepting billions of dollars in donations to save animals so its only fitting that these should come under more NOT LESS public scrutiny. Good point Steve! Anne - I just want to say - just because people don't have answers doesn't mean they can't see the "implications" of their criticisms, whether they're talking about the RSPCA or any other issue. Actually I've seen plenty of suggestions as to how improve the way the RSPCA run things, in this and other threads - they are ideas that people are throwing around and may not all be brilliant or completely worked out or provide a full report on a total re-structuring of the RSPCA etc but hey.... what do you expect? This is how developments and improvements become a reality, people start questioning what's going on, not accepting propoganda and looking beneath the surface. They throw around ideas, brainstorm, reject some ideas, try to develop others. For the most part they are not experts in this stuff, just concerned ordinary people. You can't expect everyone to have all the answers to life, the universe and the woes of RSPCA administration. At least they are interested enough in the welfare of animals to be giving a damn and trying to identify the issues etc. To me that's enough and if something positive comes out of their thoughts then that's all to the better. I'd prefer that to having everyone just blindly accept everything the RSPCA does or simply ignore all the problems because they can't single-handedly figure out a cunning plan to fix everything. Others may simply express their dismay, distress or disgust at what they see happening. They're entitled to do that too. They are not obliged to come up with solutions, or even considered opinions, just because they are upset by what they read or see happening. Meanwhile, since the RSPCA have bucketloads of money at their disposal and are specifically funded to provide welfare to animals I would expect THEY should be coming up with ideas as to how they can improve their organisation and stop making bad decisions, wasting money etc. THey can even hire someone to do it for them if it's too hard for them to work it out by themselves. And just maybe threads like this and forums like DOL can provide them with some pointers. well said, i agree. the first step in fixing anything is stepping out of denial and identifying there is a problem which is what has been happening for some people in this thread.

i have offered several suggestins

i never leave them there i pay to get them cremated. my daughter worked at a vet for work experience...