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Tried all of the above. It's just like at times she has no interest in food whereas usually pups hoe in and really have a good old guts. When she is awake she walks around and appears happy enough. I may take her to the vet for a check up. I know she should be lapping and eating about 4 meals a day. She sleeps a lot and never cries. She also doesn't come running to the side of her pen wanting to get out. I think with all the handling to do with food maybe she doesn't like feeding time. Last meal at night and first thing in the morning she isn't too bad but through the day doesn't seem interested. She has only put on about 9 grams since last night. She doesn't seem dehydrated though. I am really at my wits end. Her mother went home to her owner on Sunday evening. I wonder if she misses her. Was she eating okay before the mother went home? Have you tried adding a bit of wombaroo puppy to the mince? I would definitely be getting the vet to have a look.

All being well - there will be pups 2nd March with me, Takanz standard poodles. This will be my last litter (though people say that I have said that before) and I expect a lovely litter of mainly black but maybe a white or two.

Yes, I've used them and, whereas I have been happy with the end result, I did have hassles getting the results. Samples and bookwork got lost twice and I did have to get on their case to get results in time for my last litter. Good price for the testing that they do, but make sure you give yourself plenty of time.

Great advice. I'll just add - a warm towel on the area just prior to massage helps. Try and milk the first milk off then put the pups on. Put the strongest sucker on the most affected boob. Also, give your bitch a course of protexin to put her gut flora back or you may have a diarrohea problem as well. Good Luck. Awfully stressful for you and your girl.

Don't forget to keep massaging the teats where the mastitis is. The antibiotics will stop it getting infected but won't break up the lumps. Yes, massage is important. Good idea to use a warm towel (or similar) before massaging. Also, a cabbage leaf works wonders. Good luck with everything, hope it's going well now.

I agree with underfoot. I would take a bet that she wants to move her pups, she is not feeling secure where she is right now.

Yes thanks for that always thought it was so and told buyer this but sure he will love his pup anyway - he is buying him as a pet. Thought it worth a try - I usually advise desexing at 6 months feel in a mini poodle that is not going to effect its growth by much. I have standard poodles and often get the "we want a really big dog..." or "we want a small standard..." I tell people (nicely) that I can only guarantee that they will get a %100 standard poodle from health tested parents and that I do my very best to make sure all pups are healthy, happy and well adjusted. It's worked out so far and everyone is happy.

Yeah, I know, its a shame because wrestling the big boxes is quite an event :laugh: and storage is a bugger too. fifi I buy a new one for each litter as I only use four pieces of melamine and it costs $90 from Bunnings already pre cut. I bin it after I have finished with it. I really like this idea. What do you join the pieces with; corner brackets? I really don't want to buy a new expensive whelping box for this litter as I am quite sure this is my last litter.

I've been looking for the same thing (standard poodle litter due at the end of the month), but I've only seen them available in the UK.

You can go to www.asaplab.com.au and get their advice - they supply kits for you to take to your vet.

What happened to the topic? I was following it as I have also had problems getting anything done about a registered pedigree breeder supplying for a designer dog breeder..thought someone might have a helpful suggestion.

www.asaplab.com.au They are really helpful and email results as soon as they have them. Thanks, I spoke to them today and will be using them, very helpful I had no idea who to contact. Thanks again :) Glad you got the help you were after. I've used them for DNA profiling and genetic disease testing and find them really good. Good luck with everything.

www.asaplab.com.au They are really helpful and email results as soon as they have them.

A bit off topic..but, I really wish there was a big media/educational push by our various clubs/societies/controlling bodies to let people know the difference between a registered pup and a pup from a BYB. Most people, when you talk to them, have no idea why they should get a pup from a registered breeder and don't realise, that, quite often, they pay more for their non health tested BYB pup than they would from a registered breeder that does the right thing. I am probably being naive, but I feel that if their was a concerted effort to educate, then the question of pediatric sterilisation would not be such an issue. Personally, I wish there was no need to put young pups through these procedures, but agree with the others that, if it is necessary, then vasectomy and tubal ligation are the way to go.

Thanks for all the information. I actually printed most of it out and had a good read in bed last night. I will now go back to how I was feeling about yearly vaccinations with the backing of some extremely sound articles. I'm in the 'older' age group and we never used to vaccinate yearly and my canines have nearly always lived very long and healthy lives. I have a young girl that, if she passes all her various testing) I will be breeding from this year - guess I will have to have her given boosters when she has a pre-mating check-up - other than that I will talk to my vet about doing the yearly 'medicals' without vaccinations. I really do appreciate all the terrific links and comments.

I'm still confused about this because, when I've questioned my vet, I've been told that a different vaccine is used in the USA and covers for longer. What do I believe? I have chosen not to have my 7 year old pet boy vaccinated for the last 2 years but he does have an appointment for a booster C3 next week.

It would be a no from me as well.

I have also been relating diagnosis and treatment back to myself as I have Crohn's Disease. I can't take the sulphur either but, fortunately, do well with immune suppressants. After the side effects of prednisone I don't want that road again but wonder if these treatments also work on our canine friends.

I don't know about IBD in dogs, I actually didn't know they could get it I only knew that there is a disease similar to Crohn's Disease (one of the IBDs) found in horses. My knowledge of IBD in humans is with Crohn's and U. Colitis. It is thought that IBD, though not genetic, has the tendency to run in families. It is also thought that it can be started up by an infection, stress or ??? Actually, the fact is, nobody really knows and I'm being simplistic. I would make sure that the pup hasn't got a food allergy as has one of my standard poodles. I was desperate when he was a pup as I couldn't get him to put on weight, food seemed to go through him and he got terrible stomach aches. Trips to the vet were frequent and we couldn't work out what was wrong with him. After 6 months of worry, I took him off anything with wheat in it, anything with offal and made sure there was no overload of red meat. He is now 8 and is as good as gold as long as I stick to 'his' food.

I have sewn up some scrap fabric - basically double fold, hole for the tail and ties at the side and I use panty liners in those. Saves a lot of cleaning up and my bitches are quite happy with the arrangement. My boy had superloin which took 2 years to wear off and he showed no interest whatsover. I decided to have him neutered and the next time I had a bitch in season he lost his virginity under the lemon tree

Gumtree confuses me also...I ended up finding 'spoodles' for sale saying they are a registered breeder with mother from championship lines???? They are - registered with AAPDB and both parents have purebred papers. That AAPDB is going to confuse the crap out of the public. i can see it now. registered breeder :D my I wonder if the original breeders know about this. I'm a bit lost for words at the moment. I thought the public were confused enough....then this. :D

Gumtree confuses me also...I ended up finding 'spoodles' for sale saying they are a registered breeder with mother from championship lines????

Ah yes, those amazing emails and phone calls...not to mention, remarks. I was buying dog bones at the butcher and a woman asked me what sort of dogs I had - I told her. She then informed me that pedigree dogs were too expensive and in the next breath that her sister had just paid over $2000 for a labradoodle pup under breeders terms. We really (as pedigree dog lovers) need a concerted effort to re-educate people via media and any other way we can...I'm just not sure how to motivate people to do this or to get the CC to get heavily involved.

I am worried by the trend towards 'doodles', especially as I have standard poodles. I agree with Alpha Bet. I'm in my 60s but still hope to have another 10 years helping my girls produce strong, healthy in mind and body, pups. I don't breed for the show ring, though one of my pups is in a show home. Some of my pups are in obedience and many of my pups are playing in 'doggy parks' around Australia. I am not putting down the show folk here (I have good friends that show) - it just isn't for me. My dogs are kept clean and tidy but I don't have the expertise or the patience for a show coat. People who meet my dogs often mention that they thought poodles were just silly dogs with sillier hair dos - and that seems to be the perception that people have before they meet the 'dog under the wool'. One of the worries I have now is the difficulty of finding a new Sire (registered and Health tested) that doesn't carry a whole bunch of restrictions on top of the stud fee - and this seems to be very wide spread, not just the poodle world. I would love to have the sort of money that went behind promoting labradoodles - they did a good job.

Interesting - I've been getting more 'phone calls lately as well, and I don't have any litters.