angelsun

Well said and I agree completely. We are slowly losing any ability to make decisions about our dogs or a breed, but isn't this what PETA wants? No more breeders/purebred dogs or pets at all? Food for thought..perhaps it's not RSPCA flag that is flying at Dogs Vic, but a PETA flag......

As I mentioned in the thread in Breeders: Want to add, those that honestly beleive a bitch in season shouldn't be shown either due to a risk of infection....I would love to see documentation on this...in ALL the time I've been showing, and showing bitches in estrus...I have NEVER had one of them pick up anything..however..I HAVE had bitch puppies with vaginitis or similar who have never been outside my own yard and are 3-5 months of age.... The arguement of a bitch in season with the alleged 'open cervix' amuses me all the time. As mentioned...females both human and otherwise continue to mingle with their own, subject themselves to possible contaminents and yet seem to handle it quite well.

First off...totally ridiculous rules Second..how and who will police this? What is the next step..no bitches to compete in CONFORMATION shows while in season? (they could in fact claim the above 3.3.9 rule description would apply there as well. 3.3.9.2 Do we have a form to fill out, signed by the vet that scanned the bitch saying she missed, or showing the blood tests that can be done at 21 days to confirm pregnancy.....or will we leave it up to our peers to mind our business and breeding program and let them dob us in? Should be interesting.

I wanted to see the GSD confident in sit/stays as well as better heeling, and we've achieved that. Getting the pinscher to do a reliable recall and quick sits...got that done too. Am looking more forward to 2011 where top of my list is Rally Obedience as an accredited sport here...then I"m off and running (heeling)

The same as fingerprinting but we did the puppies nose. (messy) Every dog has a unique pattern like our fingerprints. These were sent in with the dogs registration as a form of identification. was glad when they moved past that and assigned tattoo series for us!

That's the thing as well...chips have indeed changed and they are more prone to staying put compared to their earlier models, but they are not foolproof yet.

That was your fault, not the dogs.....rewarding in this method often results in pinches or bites. Anytime I've been nipped (which has happened a handful of times over the years) it was my fault for presenting a reward incorrectly or not pre training the dog to accept the reward in a method that would remove an accident like this from occuring. (goes for baiting show dogs as well as high energy rewards for other training sessions and also simple 'roll around the floor and wrestle' sort of play)

Well done on the win!

Not necessarily, I know a few dogs who were done as adults and the chips have still moved - luck of the draw really. Agreed...I've had a few of my own, done as older dogs when chips became more readily available to help back up their tattoos, and had them move on me.

I have a real life situation I"ll share. We have in Canada a puppy mill for my breed...they breed without testing and breed from bitches they have homed elsewhere. One year I know there was no less than ten litters on the ground, which included my breed and various others as well as cross breds. The sire of my dog ended up in their hands unfortunately via what we would call a byb. This person bred now and then, but never showed and in fact told me to my face that she could not pick a show dog because she didn't understand the breed standard well enough. She liked some agility and things like that but overall wasn't interested in conformation as such. She did register her dogs however, but did not health test. She decided to get out of the breed and this male that she had ended up in the Western Puppy mill. Just prior to him going there, I had enquired through a co owner of mine, to use this dog and this BYB who knew that he was sire to the only All Breed best in show winner, told us the following: Yes you can breed your bitch to him but you must bring her as I will not go pick her up at an airport nor drop her off when done. You can bring her one day only and you must give me the stud fee ($1000 when at the time the top dog was getting $650) in full that day. There are no guarantees the bitch will take, and no refunds or rematings. This male, as good as he produced was left untouched by us....he was a dog that was not titled as the breed wasn't recognized when he was a young lad and as a result he was only shown in the rare breed shows then. He produced some nice dogs with great temperaments but currently was being advertised as the sire of the BIS winning dog....and was attempting to ride on those laurals....he was NEVER used while in the care of that BYB person. Fast forward to when he landed in the hands of the puppy mill people. We knew he was there...our hands were tied as we knew we couldn't get him out of their barn. He needed special vet letters to be able to register dogs (because he was CKC registered whereas all but a handful of theirs were not and hence they could not sell dogs as registered which was what people wanted) A number of times we noticed ads in various magazines stating he was sire of my male....Once again, as good as this dog did produce, no one touched him....I don't know what their stud use agreement was, but I know what they sold his puppies for, and I know how many contacted me with their story because they had a half sibling of my dog and felt they had common ground....prices generally were twice what was the standard. The dog was untested and untitled because they said to anyone that would listen...firstly, they don't have to test as they don't have any problems in the breed, and secondly, the CKC were losers and they would not show. Funny part is, they have a photo of a group fourth win with one of their dogs before they were permanently removed from using ANYTHING the CKC did (banned for various reasons) on their website, so if the CKC were such losers, I'm wondering why they continued to brag about such a win? Anyway, the dog was never used outside their puppy farm and I can only hope he's gone over the bridge now as he would be a very old dog if he was still alive today. Over the time I had his son, I was approached by many that beleive (and rightfully so) if the son is good, go to the father if you can....I was honest about where the father lived and who to contact....NO ONE used this dog at any point in time....ever..... We have a relatively small genepool and at that time, prior to the swarm of imports from Europe, it was very small and a good sound dog that produced to the standard was really desired....regardless of this, the cost for us as breeders was too high if we had used this dog....we all knew, that this puppy farmer would advertise kennel X or Y as coming to THEM and aren't they amazing because of it...and holy cow if we had gotten a great winner..they would have capitolized on that.....none of us were prepared to give them the opportunity to profit or benefit in any form but using this dog.

I agree when people say to get your own scanner. GOOD investment without a doubt. Yes some chips will still move, but that is based on a number of things...who inserts them...I've watched some folks do it and a year later not be surprised to hear the chip is gone or moved down a leg or around to under the chest. Some pups don't do themselves any favours either as they cause the chips to back out or not 'grab' by the tissues under the skin. The good part about this, is if one does go missing, it's not a big trauma to get another inserted and try again. For all the stories of the chips gone astray, there are thousands of chips that stay exactly where we put them. It sure as hell beats tattoos (which I used to do) and worse.....nose printing! (OMG that dates me!)

My Canadian import cost me an extra $700 to use their services. Well worth knowing that all the t's are crossed and i's are dotted in my opinion.

Chips can easily back out of the insertion hole and you would never know it. I've had this happen to me a number of times, until I learned how to avoid this problem. One of the biggest causes of chips backing out is simply petting the puppies too soon after they are done. I chip animals and tell people to NOT pet (rub the area) for at least a couple of days after being inserted. The other thing people do for some reason is feel for the chip (it feels like a grain of rice) and prevent it from grabbing hold with the tissues of the body. Again, don't disturb it for a few days and the odds of it either backing out or moving are lowered dramatically. It's truly amazing how many folks do both of these things and then wonder later on, why the chip has either moved or can't be found. The technology of the chips today, pretty much eliminates that when scanned, they will not respond. If the chip was scanned PRIOR to insertion, it means that it will work.

King Valley Kennel Club is holding a Rally Obedience seminar September 11-12 in Myrtleford which isn't terribly far from Albury. We also are starting to hold agility training.

GREAT TO HEAR!!!

Pleased to announce that King Valley Kennel Club will be holding a Rally Obedience seminar in Myrtleford VIC the weekend of September 11-12th. This is the two day seminar that includes an intensive powerpoint lecture that covers all the stations and how to do them, the rules and how to both run and participate in a trial. The second day is hands on and busy with a full days worth of course run throughs to see if you were listening on the Saturday!! This seminar has been successfully held throughout the country and hundreds have attended and gone on to begin classes in their local clubs as well as a great preparation for both judges and prospective judges or stewards for when this is an accredited sport with the ANKC. We will be contacting a large number of currently licenced obedience judges about this seminar and hope that many in the NE Victoria and border region will be interested in attending. It's a great time of year to be visiting this region and make a weekend out of it! For more details and registrations, please contact me at [email protected]

Actually Rally would do your fearful dog a lot of good as it's highly positive and no away sit/down situations. I've seen many dogs with baggage handle Rally very well and end up a far better dog for doing it!

Article I often post for those wishing to crate train. cratetraining.doc

http://www.daff.gov.au/aqis/cat-dogs

Do you still have the list of shippers in Sweden, we have a pup to come in later in the year, the only pet shipper I can find is Scandi pet I would like to compare a few more, Scandi pet is based in Stockholm and the puppy is quite some distence from there, so would like to try and find one a little closer to the pup. I'm using Scandi pet at the moment and yes distance is a pain as the pup is in the southern tip and that's about 1500 km distance. Closer to fly out of Copenhagen but that is a cat 4 country, so won't work! My friend (who is the breeder) will fly to Stockholm with pup the day before transport, as it's cheaper for her to do that than drive or even fly the pup freight.

In a word NO....reason....doing so and paying a stud fee feeds what the BYB or puppy farmer wants, and that's money. I would find another male..there isn't a male out there that I could justify using under this sort of circumstance.

We currently have German Shepherds living with German Pinschers. I agree with the thoughts about supervision, very very important, however it's more in our case of the sheppies stepping on the pinschers by mistake really. The pinschers rule the house flat out...not a surprise really. Angel for example will remove food from Samm's mouth and he walks away a bit annoyed but without doing a thing. The only injuries we've had have been lack of hair (Pinscher swinging off Shepherd neck ruff) or the chiropractic fee to put Pinscher back in place after a hard roll at a full run and impact. Not mean, just play. Doesn't happen often though as the Pinschers are sharper on the turns and usually get out of the way easily enough. I used to have German Pinschers with Chinese Crested. Same rules. Cresteds ran the house then and took the best spots on the couch which often meant the GP's got booted off. Again, because of the agility of the toy dogs, they quickly were able to step out of the way of a rambunctious GP before getting trompled. I also sent my Gp's to a friend with Danes and again, no issues. I think overall it's not the size difference but the fact that the dogs are made understand the rules and no tolerance for anything rough or over the top. Generally size differences aren't a big deal. Some of my GP's best buddies in the world were Mini Doxies...neither realized the difference in size, nor cared... I liked that their sleeping arrangements put the larger crates on the ground level and I could stack the smaller ones. Took up less room overall. I never really segregated any of the dogs due to size as they all knew the rules and although there were at times a few that didn't get along as well, it had nothing to do with size.

Once again, the motivations to prevent back yard butchery vet proceedures on the mid west puppy mills, has created this situation where someone with cranky neighbours has the power to have a dog removed permanently due to noise laws because of the inability to perform, in correct situations, an easy proceedure. As for the comment about removing the sound of the animal removes their ability to communicate is the same arguement that is given by those in favour of anti tail docking stating that the lack of a tail being able to wag, stifles the dogs ability to communicate. Sheer utter bullshit, but this is where the dog world is coming to I'm afraid. Problem is plain and simple, the butcher jobs to debark will still be done...the sterile vet scenario has been removed, so now we go back to antiquated anesthetics and filthy enviroments that will spread disease and risk lives. Chock one up for the so called animal rights activists....they claim to have the animals best interests at heart, but clearly this is just another case of fanatics at work in my opinion. Hug your pets, cause there is coming a time in the not so distant future where we won't be permitted to own them.

Yes unfortunately anyone that complies with the registration needs can breed a litter of 'papered' dogs. Hence why there is such a problem with puppy mills in the Mid West region that supply pet stores with dogs that can claim to be AKC registered. They are in fact so, but these are not breeders as we know them. As well, the buyer has the right to name the dog not the breeder, but many breeders will pencil in their 'prefix' or name the pups prior to sale, however the AKC rules state that the owner has the right to name the pup, therefore we see a lot of dogs out there that are registered with whatever prefix but having a breeder of record with a known prefix, not noted in the dogs name. The rules are very slack when it comes to the AKC in many ways although they have put in place some rules which are helping, it's still a registration service full of loopholes which man happily use to their advantage. There is no mandatory tattoo or chipping required by the AKC and no rules stating that papers must be provided to a dog that is sold.

You will need the export pedigree/registration to send to the AKC. (They don't understand the difference, to them one is the same as the other, but....if you go to register this dog in Canada, you would need export one) You will also need to take two photos (one side, one front) and fill out the correct form which is 'registration of foreign born dogs' On that form (email me if you want me to send it to you) it will ask you for sire/dam information and registration numbers. Your details and the breeders details. Submit the forms with the right amount of money and in about three weeks you'll have your AKC registrations for the dogs. Be sure to ask for the AKC pedigree AND registration as it's far cheaper during initial registration proceedures and will come in handy for their frequent sire program or if you want to venture to Canada to show and therefore would need to get registrations done. As well, if someone in Canada wants to use for breeding, you will need the pedigree. As for breeding, dont' worry about prefix's. The majority aren't 'registered' and the AKC is only worried about if the same name is used, however you will find that a prefix is often used for another breed without issue. As well, you can actually reuse a name and they will simply stick a 1 or 2 on the end of it. Dumb I know but that's what they do. it's costly and not necessary to go through registering prefix with the AKC. There seldom is ever any issues in this regard when it comes to registrations.