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I am pretty sure if someone handed me a dead cat that is the last thing I'd do...

I agree with the OP. PIAA also covers cats so that is pretty wrong. Not to mention a disturbing photo

surely that defeats the purpose of having a controlling body meh...people are doing the wrong thing but who cares

Righto - so it's okay for you to express your thoughts and personal opinion on the topic and not others! You did give us your opinion. You don't give a flying fruit tingle if people dislike children. Thanks for that contribution. The topic isn't about "why we dislike people that dislike children" or "why we dislike people that are rude to children", but I guess you got confused. Tess, whatever insult you choose to throw at people that dislike children, it is still an insult. My opinions are no more shallow than your own. Are you so insulting every time somebody has a like or dislike that you do not share? Or is there some fear you have of people that dislike children that causes you to have a go at them? Could you try to control it? Again, no insults here...I explained the definition of shallow and even explained I would describe my own feelings as shallow about plenty of things like cats, cars, you name it. I don't consider it an insult...just reality *shrug*. As for it being shallow IF the ONLY reason you disliked babies was because they smell when they poop....well c'mon, do you really not agree that's a superficial reason? REALLY? Some people are overly sensitive to different smells. There is not just poop. There is the formula and the spit up, which smell tends to turn my stomach. Not saying that this is my only reason, but if it were someone else's' who are you to judge? I find close mindedness pretty shallow

no, before all of that you said if someone doesn't like babies because they smell then they are shallow.

It is how people openly express themselves that I believe the OP was questioning. Whether someone likes or dislikes children or chooses to have children or not isn't the issue IMO It is however obvious that many have no issue with people being so openly rude. then you aren't reading posts properly. I and other people said that she was very rude. I said earlier that she may have just been a very rude person and it had nothing to do with whether or not she liked kids others agreed that they wouldn't want to sit next to a child, but not necessarily agreed with how she went about it I have not said all posters, you didn't read my post properly. If I meant all the posters in this thread then I would have written that. my apologies. I must not be reading properly as I can't remember anyone saying that the woman was right to be rude.

It is how people openly express themselves that I believe the OP was questioning. Whether someone likes or dislikes children or chooses to have children or not isn't the issue IMO It is however obvious that many have no issue with people being so openly rude. then you aren't reading posts properly. I and other people said that she was very rude. I said earlier that she may have just been a very rude person and it had nothing to do with whether or not she liked kids others agreed that they wouldn't want to sit next to a child, but not necessarily agreed with how she went about it

well I can't speak for other posters but it gets pretty annoying when you have to keep explaining yourself because people just can't accept the way you want to live your life. Not meaning here, but everywhere. Like the "Why do you have so many animals? You could have a really nice house and a pool if not for them and be able to go on holidays etc. etc." I used get that all the time from family, but I think they finally get me. :) no...animals is not usually as bad. Unless it's the "you may as well have kids if you are going to have so many animals" not being a kid person is usually treated as worse, like there is something wrong with you.

well I can't speak for other posters but it gets pretty annoying when you have to keep explaining yourself because people just can't accept the way you want to live your life. Not meaning here, but everywhere.

She was defending being called shallow i thought there were some interesting points isn't this thread about why? you can't answer that while hiding it.

I can...but I still think there are some parents that don't really care. I have been on lots of long flights and some just don't care how much noise their kids are making. there's also the ones who don't care if their child is kicking your seat. One poster said they complained about a child on a plane and the parent thought she was horrible

I don't understand this. Only people who decide to have a child are going to be able to bring it up "me, me" style. Those of us who have no kids did not breed these selfish children. If a child is brought up in a 'me, me' style, or if children are considered the "me, me" generation why would anyone else want to be near them? If you think it is important to have extended family around kids, there is your reason why I should never have any. I am glad we live in a society that values individualism more than valuing traditional patriarchal family structures. It means that people like me that don't have the biological urge to breed are not trapped in a hideous life in servitude of the children we were expected to have. Try thinking of it in the context of "It takes a village to raise a child". :) That is what I am implying, that the nuclear (closed) family, where we don't have the benefit of the expected respect and input of say, the elderly, neighbours, close friends etc. creates a secular, self absorbed society and we raise children in this environment today. I still don't understand. isn't that up to you as parents? Surely it is up to you to teach you children respect and seek out input from those you want it. But really it is not up to everyone else to raise your child Don't know about the person most stressed about children screaming being the parents...I've have seen quite a number in shopping centres who don't seem to even notice their child is throwing the world's biggest tantrum

unfortunately that is one of the problem with these types of threads and when people thoughtlessly harass others about why they don't have kids - they don't think about these sort of reasons.

You still aren't explaining to me why it is a problem - other than making you sad? Again not liking is not the same as being rude. Hate to be the bearer of bad news - but not everyone likes everyone. Its a fact of life. I am sure when the kids go off to school they will find out that not everyone likes them there either - so that argument is a bit pointless. geez, people aren't monsters just because they don't gush over kids. tolerance does go a long way...

I did list that as a reason. And again I ask - it doesn't impact on anyone else so what is really the problem?

I'm sure some are, but when I was at school there were also quite a number that weren't

You make a good point. I think everyone could learn a little more tolerance. I don't understand this comment. What for? No one is screaming and swearing at kids to get away. No one is walking around kicking kids. (from what i have read anyways) i think everyone should be more respectful of others views.

It's a situation common to quite a few women I know Bjelkier. Certainly child rearing holds no romance for you when there's a baby in the family when you're an older child. that is interesting and certainly something I have wondered about.

i'm going to borrow that.

it may not have anything to do with her not liking kids. She might but she also may have just been angry that she had requested something and it had not been followed through. Or she just might be rude. i wouldn't be happy about it either, but chances are I'd just deal with it

some people just don't have the patience to deal with it. some people are also very sensitive to high pitched noises. Why do they need to get over it if they don't have any? Not everyone likes pets. Not everyone is the same. I don't see why it is a problem. to each his own.

great pics. He does have very pretty eyes!

Great photos! Is your Bengal fluffy? That kitten is so cute!

maybe you can try contacting them through their Facebook page if you are not having luck with the site? https://www.facebook.com/PetRescueAU

How about Don't get an Airedale if you don't have a sense of humour Don't get an Airedale if you value your personal space Don't get a Shar Pei if you hate snoring