ducky

1. Fair enough 2. These "Criminological Theories" wouldn't have come from books would they?? Written by the ones in the know?? unless all the lectuorers don't read??? 3. As say a Protection Dog Trainer???? 10 books with useful information is pretty good, reading 40 books with only 30% of useful information is still good too, guess you won't narrow down my library and tell me what books you found informative?

Boy!! Even the books you purchase are cheap! I could easily spend $700.00 on great books and still not even fill a shelf, much less a library. And even then, those books will not be context specific to me and my dog. Assuming the mistake/s you make are fixable, it will probably end up costing you more in the long run. amazon.com half the price then a bookshop here, if it only takes 5 lessons to train a dog I will have my ability to have children cut off and fed to a one legged chicken named Fluffy, somehow I am guessing 5 lessons won't be enough, call me a sceptic/moron if you will but I plan to be driving the Mercedes not seeing the guy who tells my dog to sit driving one with the number plate 'SUCKER'.

Should become a profiler there Jeff you can pin a moron in a few lines the FBI needs you, had a quick look at the link you provided looks alright for fine tuning but to get full training that I think would be needed at $700 for a 5 lesson package I would rather make a library of dog training books from world recognised experts and only take the dog there when I can't figure something out that only experience can fix.

Remember though, Ducky, you are not dealing with bricks, mortar, nuts or bolts here ..... you would be dealing with another being's emotions borne through drives .... an individual animal with a brain of its own, and with its own nuances. Books alone will never give you the 'feel' and intuition you learn through experience. And when it comes to protection work, you can't afford to make the sort of mistakes you might make when teaching things such as obedience and/or tracking. Make the wrong mistakes in protection training and you could be writing a death sentence for your dog, not to mention injury certificates for other people. I believe there are people who will teach people to train their dogs in protection work. I believe they are selective about who they will agree to train - as those trainees need to demonstrate a dedication to what they are doing and also a willingness to follow direction. It takes more than one person to train a dog in protection work. And the second person needs to very much know what they are doing - as much as if not more than the dog-handler. I would never knock the value of information that can be gained through books. But I would not trust a surgeon whose CV only listed "I read books". The results of his surgery could be catestrophic and tragic. Thanks Erny, excellent points put across will take it on board.... Will just train on the same fabric dog toys/bite developers (no aggression training, which I have never done on any of my dogs) until I get to the point of the sleeve (when he's old enough) then before any further I will track down a pro for the rest.

Sydney NSW Jeff

Too late!!!! And only ever had stable dogs after the training actually very friendly, had trouble with dog aggression before until I read books to figure that out and now this pup loves every animal.

If you can sub contract yourself out for jobs you like it you may be able to enjoy it but if you join a company and say get stuck doing train yards I wouldn't wish that on anyone as the dogs get more breaks then you and it's very hard, boring, tiring work and if it's a company dog don't expect it to protect you as any dog showing aggression is off the employment list as the companies would rather have you bashed then have the dog bite someone (costs less that way).

I hope you are joking… The training you are going to try and commence with your dog are specialist areas of dog training. You cannot just "wing it". You need a qualified trainer to guide you through the process. These are not things you can do simply after reading a book. No not joking at all, I trained my old cattle dog through guesstimating in various areas, now with my new pup I could not find a trainer willing to teach me not the dog and send me away a few grand poorer and a little saw in the rear end, even through online courses you would never get a response or anything. So I turned to books and read everything on the subjects that I was interested in that I could get my hands on and it has worked ok so far with scent, tracking, and protection he is at a stage I am satisfied with for a 6 month pup (very much a beginer stage) and the last two months of not much training has been given due to getting hitched. It's also not a traditional breed for this type of work but I thought after the cattle dog I wanted more of a challenge with training. I would love to go to a trainer to teach me not the dog but trying to find one I found very difficult any points of directions would be appreciated. And don't knock books if I ever listened to people saying you can't learn from a book my falcon hardtop wouldn't be restored, house tiled, garden of my last place wouldn't have made the house 30k more valuable, and books even helps in wrestling matches.

Do you know how to use any of that equipment? I'm just going to follow the bouncing ball of all the books I have read on the subject.

Hi, Is there an Aus company that produces bite developers, bite sleeves & scent detection training equipment?