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The number of people that come to the obedience club I instruct at with stuffed up dogs that have only been trained to sit is enormous.......... Don't worry I have wrapped my dog in bubble wrap placed him in his cage (which is bubble wrapped too), and when he is let out for exercise I will hire a seeing eye dog to lead him around by the harness (can you teach me how to get my dog to hold the harness, I'm thinking duct tape). He will be fed a liquid diet through a tube so he won't choke on a bone, and water will be intravenous of course in case a bee lands in it and he get's stung in the throat.

Just an innocent question for you - how do you know that what you are doing/going to do for the next 6 months before you see a pro is the right thing to do? Imagine if its not and you are potentially stuffing the dog up. Not going to do any training with him in regards to protection so I won't stuff it up

Thanks for the support and thanks for the advice and some info, started to see the other side when I read K9 force post when he wrote like a pro, not going to rule it out just going to wait 6 months to see what temperement he matures too then if I think he's ready I'll go see if K9 force thinks the same and abide by the decision till then I'm still not going to tell my pup he's a pointer and see what other fields I can train in for my and my dogs enjoyment, so keep an eye out at the local greyhound track he may be racing. You can't take all what I wrote in there serious I was playing up a little at being a Bogan, as if I'm going to get pissed with me mates at me barbie and dare them to put on the sleeve

It's english, just tried to get a bit more respect for my dog by saying it's german. Where can I do the scent detection at can you just go without your dog to learn the theory or is it your dog is to sniff this until you move onto the next bit?

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Did heaps of research on that months ago and basically no chance in NSW there is no clubs to join specialising in that, there is one in Vic and she was great on advice but there was just no pro's I could find on that as I did read a book on that subject and thought I've got no chance without training in a club and there are no clubs to join specialising in non sport search and rescue and you can't help in proper searches due to some cowboys a few years ago.

Well I had outsiders look at it from outside the debate that weren't involved and sometimes you have to admit that if everyone thinks that way then I am probably wrong. Guess I just bristled up and didn't want to listen when it started getting pers against me especially about mistreating the dog and having no idea on anything. Will stop for the next 6 months and if I'm still interested in doing it that $20 aweek saved will go to a pro. Can't keep the ear muffs on forever. Now here is a serious question I'm not looking for another 100 post slanging match, what other training fields can I go in I am only interested in practical things please forget about the breed of the dog. I would love to do Scent training using pseudo scents (narcotics), doing now to a basic level Tracking (Basic only trained in so far too many bindies at the park and too many snakes on the bush tracks near my house so rested the last month) Suspect Discrimination through scent (german book I'm reading now, no clue on it) Lurching And is there anything else practical, not interested in anything gundog related as I handed my rifles in years ago and can see no use of him bringing back a plastic bird for applause. Not interested in any type of sports like dog dancing, or chasing a plastic bag. Now if I'm walking into another trainwreck by being interested in one of these let me know early cause I didn't know bite training my dog questions would cause such an uproar and finger pointing. Am I still nieve?

That's right he is going to be the James Bond of the GSP world!

Very true :cool: Bigger Bullies hey?? Plus I buy Australian and soon when we pull out of Iraq we will be struck from the 'Who he delivers to list' read that blurb on his website really inspiring on which countries he won't deliver to.

There is abit of a difference between you and Claudia Ramrod…Claudia has been involved in trialling Schutzhund dogs since 1984…her first dog was titled Schutzhund III 24 times, she has also competed in the BSP German Championships. In 2006 she placed second in the USA Schutzhund Nationals… Now that's Claudia's experience..... heres Duckys experience with training dogs in bite work…"I train dogs to bite a towel wrapped around my arm"… Frankly Jeff i am dissapointed with that last line, we all know your better then that, go and think of a better one and edit it. Put the lid on the garbage with the edit (I'm the garbage Jeff).

Sure - shame I will never be able to compete......... I am very familiar with the sport of schutzhund and I know whats involved. I also keep telling you that no club will take you to do the sport as you dont have the eligible breed. Countles people go to the dogsport club with their staffies, amstaffs, xbreeds. Hey who knows the club might even see a pointer there one day :cool: Plenty of dogs here love tugging and people use this motivator to teach dogs various things. Flyball people tug, retrieving people tug, agility people tug, obedince people tug, I tug and I mainly show my dog. Ok the kid question good question but not really in the realistic world ie if my say 13yr old kid said he wants to be an impressionist artist and loves playing the piano and wants to give up Rugby League I would stare blankly at him for a good 30 seconds then we would burst out laughing I would say you nearly got me there Junior then we'd have a beer skullling comp and my 12yr old duaghter would be egging us on by singing chug a lug chug a lug, so not really realistic their Myshka Have a look through my posts and please copy and post where I said I wanted to join a schutzhund club if you try doctoring it may trick a couple of readers. Why not choose flyball or people tug instead teaching it the sleeve? Why how much would my mates laugh at me at me barbies and they would be saying my dog bats for the other team but they won't be saying it when I say put on the sleeve oh no I will get some respect then!

I would love to see that seriously, especially when it's sent after Jeff as I am sure if Jeff 'Runs the foxy owner will send his dog so please run jeff please run' (check his signature). I'm pretty sure while he is running with his hands flailing in the air screaming "This can't be right, this is not logical it's not the correct breed, he didn't get my tick of approval, oh my ass hurts"

You did a couple of lines up something about a doberman doing earth dog work, just need a bigger hole/tunnel and I'm sure he's figure it out there's hope for your doberman encouragement is needed for him not mocking don't you ever watch Oprah. He is being trained for the sleeve, read K9 forces reply to me where he considered that being a kind of sport not personal protection, I suspect there is a major difference between playing tug of war with fabric on your arm to patroling the perimeter in search of baddies. I don't think he has the tempereament for Personal Protection but I know he loves playing with what he is doing, and once he gets to a stage I am happy with I will take him to a pro but I know he is going to say cuddles ain't cut out for taking down a suicide bomber.

I love my last line so much I'm putting it in my signature, hopefully I can educate the masses.

ok picture this.... my face screwed up like a rat laughing like the 'revenge of the nerds' narph narph narph narph, that's me mimicking you guys. And yes I have seen relos use cattle dogs as pig dogs and fox terriers as finders, guess they don't subscribe to your theory, to use a nerdy saying that you would understand 'thinking outside the box'. Even todays Telegraph had pictures of the explosive dogs used in Iraq one was a kelpie cross and the others looked a bit of a cattle mongrel mix don't those losers know what are they doing herding sheep & cows in Iraq come on guys laugh with me narph narph narph. And my last cattle dog on command (wheres da wabbit) would put his nose to the ground and find me a wabbit every time, guess he didn't know he wasn't bred to do that as I kept him in the dark. narph narph narph My old chiuhuaha would go on a run through the bush for 15k's then swim across a river she wasn't told she was bred to wear a pink bow in her hair and be carried in one of those faux leopard skin handbags. Though whe was the only rabbit dog I have ever seen copping a hiding from a rabbit but I guess she just didn't know she wasn't a greyhound (kept her away from the dog track & mirrors). My dogs don't have a peer group saying they can't do things, you guys should try my dogs way of life.