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Big Dog Petfoods Products: THE EDGE Cost $4.60 per 2kg bag. A highly nutritious formula designed for the racing greyhound and fed in combination with "kibble" as part of the dogs diet. This formula with its "All Natural" raw ingredients boasts excellent levels of "Vitamins, Minerals and Essential Fatty Acids." Because this diet also contains "Crushed Bone," your dogs will receive a good level of "Natural Calcium," so there is no requirement to feed a "Calcuim" supplement with this diet. The contents of the "Edge" are - Meat (Roo, Beef), Crushed Brisket Bone, Crushed Vegies (Carrots, Broccoli, Celery, Spinach and Garlic), Beef Fat, Beef Liver and Eggs. The following "Powders" are also added to the diet - Flaxseed, Alfalfa and Kelp Powder. The "fat" percentage of this diet is currently at 12% this will increase in winter to 15%. Note: This product must be frozen, after 3 days (because of the crushed bone content). WEANER - Cost $4.60 per 2kg bag A very convenient, highly nutritious formula, very similar to "The Edge", but is fed as an all-in-one diet: therefore you DO NOT feed "kibble" with this product. The diet is designed for the trainers who do not wish to feed "kibble" as part of the greyhounds racing diet. This formula with its "All Natural" raw ingredients boasts excellent levels of "Vitamins, Minerals and Essential Fatty Acids." Because this diet also contains "Crushed Bone," your dogs will receive a good level of "Natural Calcium," so there is no requirement to feed a "Calcium" supplement with this diet. "Weaner" is a high-energy racing diet (27% fat), therefore it is advised that you monitor your dogs weight regularly, and especially when this diet is initially introduced. As a guide you can initially start feeding your greyhound at the following amounts - 20gms of Weaner for every 1kg of dog. This should be used as a "guide" only, as there will be differences between each individual dog. This is simply because each dog has a different metabolism, and this will determine their requirements. DO NOT feed any other meat, kibble, rice, etc. The content of "Weaner" is - Meat (Roo, Beef), Crushed Brisket Bone, Crushed Vegies (Carrots, Broccoli, Celery, Spinach and Garlic), Beef Fat. The following "Powders" are also added to the diet - Flaxseed, Alfalfa and Kelp Powder. Note: This product must be frozen, after 3 days (because of the crushed bone content). BREEDERS CHOICE - Cost $2.00 per 2kg bag. This diet is designed specifically for "Puppies". "Breeders Choice", provides excellent levels of "Natural Vitamins, Minerals, and Essential Fatty Acids," for active, growing puppies. The diet consists of - Crushed Chicken, Crushed Fruit and Vegies, Beef Offal, Meat Trimmings (Kangaroo or Beef), Garlic. The following "Powders" are also added to the diet - Flaxseed, Alfalfa and Kelp Powder. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Delivery fee for this company is $16 no matter the size of the order. KitKat and I would be looking to make another order soon and thought there may be some other people on the southside who may like to share the delivery cost? PM me if interested.

If you can find a butcher that does pet mince with bones in it or minced chicken carcasses etc then that should solve your problem.

12 months from the final vaccination. If you are still at the same address your vet will usualy send out a reminder letter when it's due.

Big fat YES! They love chicken bones. Big fat NO. Consider the wolf (or even feral dog)...don't you think they would eat a lot of small mammels and birds with tiny little bones almost daily (possums, rats, etc)??? The only bones that are a problem for dogs are cooked bones of any type. Some very large bones (like cow leg bones, sold as marrow bones) can split dogs teeth if the bite down too hard, best to supervise and only leave these bones with a dog for long enough to get the marrow. All bone eating should be supervised to make sure your dog chews instead of just swallows but otherwise bones are a natural and great part of a diet.

Oh and Tracey does this: mean you have decided to keep her?

Having seen this pup in action in person, I can tell you not even the video does her talents justice! She's incredible.

They are ONLY available in Brisbane unless you contact the manufacturer and talk about transport with him. Their is a link to the website within the thread which will give you all the information you need to do this.

It's late Friday and it's time for humour, so.... KitKat - Prove he ever had marbles to lose!

Here's a picture of the Weaner mix. As to the taste, my guys love it. It will take a few weeks to see changes (if any). Since there is nothing to chew I feed it with a small bone for teeth cleaning.

There's nothing in the rules about commands used at all. The only thing even mentioned is that the judge must determine if too many commands are given and the dog is performing obedience rather than herding (but that would have to be CONSTANT commands.

There are a few comps up in Qld before then.... :rolleyes:

colverfdh - There is, but they are only in Brisbane sorry. http://www.bigdogpetfoods.com/

I went to the manufacturing plant at Northgate and picked up some Weaner mix and Breeder's choice. The weaner mix ($2.40/kg) is 24% fat designed for racing greyhounds so may make the more sedintary breeds a bit chubby (but should be fine for my mad BCs). The breeder's choice ($1/kg) is designed for the breeders of other breeds. Looks great to me. The guy told me their email is crapped itself and they aren't receiving anything so give them a call.

I've not heard it mentioned as a problem, but I can imagine that if an enthusiastic dog jumps up from a drop while too close (as defined by the stock being used - individuals not type) they may be startled and move slightly. A dog with good distance (and as they calm down) shouldn't have this problem I'd think.

Might she now? Chatted the poor guys ear off yesterday arvo and warned him there may be a DOL invasion heading his way. ;) I was told it is $16.50 for delivery (well at least as far as Runcorn) for 1 or 100 cartons for those who can't go collect. So maybe if a few people in the one area start ordering you could share delivery to one persons house. They are moving to bigger premises near Lawnton soon and will be expanding their range of food and other items then. Great looking food mix, I got quite a lot fresh but it usually comes frozen. Smells tasty according to my flatmates (they hadn't had dinner yet though ) and the dogs were certainly impressed. The Edge - Is a lower fat, roo meat mix that was designed for the greyhound trainers who couldn't let go of the idea that kibble must be fed too. Weaner - The racing greyhound mix, fairly high fat to cope with high energy lives. Breeders Choice - Mix created when non-greyhound breeders started buying the food. It's a little finer crushed (so great for pups) and is cheaper due to less additives and being chicken based. Will try and remember to post some pics of what it looks like tonight and will give another report in two weeks.

Hey Nadia, have you tried that Big Dog food? I got my first lot last night and it looks pretty good and was great value.

They are very different drives, so hard to compare. And I know nothing of retrieving so forgive me if I only give herding examples. ;) Again, I still do not see why a dog would be confused as to what it was being asked. I can see that it may find it hard to obey however. As I said earlier, the dog is introduced while on lead in a small pen, it's not like they're sent up the back of a 200 square kilometre paddock to retrieve a mob. They are on lead, very close to both sheep and handler and so the command "Sit" is not that different to one asked of them at a dog park with their friends about. And don't get me wrong, I certainly don't mean a dog will give a perfect stop within a day or anything, but I don't see it as a confusion for the dog to learn stop around the stock. I find it far easier to understand how a dog would be confused when told a command (such as "Come Bye" which is go clockwise around stock) without the stock around. Where was it at YB and what levels was it? Was the dog really herding then or was it doing obedience with sheep involved? While of course there has to be handler involvement, if the handler is constantly directing the dog like a traffic cop, then IMO the dog isn't herding (it certainly isn't being given the oppurtunity to show instinct). Dogs that live with sheep and can be exposed every day for just a few minutes will be taught differently to dogs that attend training classes for an hour once a week. There are different methods for the different styles of herding (between breeds etc), for the eventual size of the dog and for it's herding nature (i.e. very hard, very eye-y etc). That's why an experience teacher is a must.

She knows what sit meant and so no, she wasn't confused at all when told to sit, why would she be? What dog with prior training for "sit" would be confused by being told to sit, no matter the situation? Not to say the dog may find it hard to do, but they certainly know what it means. And you can't move when you're sitting. Perhaps you've got a miscontrued idea of how a dog is started on stock? They was we start is dog on-lead in a small round pen with 5 fairly dog-trained sheep. Walk around with the dog for a while to turn it on (mind out of the gutter! ;) ), and then take lead off etc. While in this controlled situation you would begin reinforcing the dogs obedience to commands of come and sit (or however you choose to teach stop) to work under the distraction of stock. Are you speaking of a dog that knows sit before hand or a knows nothing dog?

My instructor tells me to NEVER use a herding command without stock present. These commands (whether hand signal, voice command or whistle) should only ever be given in context if they are to work properly. We taught my older girl (started herding around 13 months old) the command Stop by first telling her to sit with a hand new hand signal and then gradually changed the word to stop with the same hand signal. It didn't take very long at all and is fairly well learnt. ;) ETA: Oh and she isn't forced to sit on the stop anymore either. She chooses to stand/sit/drop whatever she likes, as long as she stops moving.

;) Wanna bet?! Any new food item should be supervised for the first few meals to ensure the pup/dog chews instead of swallowing and to check it's not being buried etc.

My litters begin eating chicken necks at about 5 weeks old (the bones are crushed with a hammer at first) and by 8 weeks old they are munching through necks, wings and lots of other yummy bones. At 7 weeks old, raw whole chicken necks would be fine. NEVER cook them.

It is always surprising at first, just how much dogs like their fruit and vegies. These days when I'm making up my f&v mix in the kitchen I have Kara at my feet licking up any bits dropped. She's absolutely mad for her f&v. Good luck with the new diet LP, I can recommend the Billinghurst books as a good tool.

Unfortunately the same thing happened with my dogs. Green, cow-patty type poos for a few days (I don't think it was a week though). Hope your guys get back to normal soon. IMO Greenies are for constipated dogs only.

Northgate is a northern (duh ) suburb of Brisbane. KitKat and I just made an order, we'll give a report once it's been delivered and taste tested (by the pooches of course).