RuralPug

So sad...RIP little Fairy Hugs to you, Pomquest, you did everything in your power to save this little girl. Poms are so tiny - and baby Poms even more so, it would make sense that their system can access fluids given subcutaneously faster than if given intravenously. Would that be the reason that subQ is prefered over IV in hydrating sick kittens?? Does anyone know?

If you've got some Apple Cider Vinegar (the unfiltered horse sort) dilute it 50/50 with water and use it as a rinse after his bath - helps to soothe and reduce itch. Let it dry on the skin.

Hello, give your darling girl a cuddle for me. There is heaps of info on here about people's experiences with Demodex and various opinions re breeding/genetic heritage etc. I know Winterpaws has already posted some links I am too lazy (shame) to check if these are duplicates but here is some interesting reading for you: Demodectic Mange, Vaccinate or Not? http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=116578 Mange Girl From Great Western Vets, Ruby went to her new home today!! http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=103976 Another Pug With Demodex!, Bindi http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=113197 Will His Fur Grow Back, had severe demadectic mange http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=112090 Demodectic Mange, Is it from 'poor' breeding? http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=99041 Demodectic Mange, Ways to treat this dreaded skin problem http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=83657 Bulldog Pup Has Demodectic Mites http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=91633 Pup With Bare Patch, bare patch of skin http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=83606 Hero Has Demodex Mites Help!, Ivomec worth the risk?? http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=79460 Demodectic Mange, how do dogs get it http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=76337 Breeding After Demodex Treatment, Female Dobie w/demodex http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=58278 Dogue De Bordeaux, Update 18 July 2006 http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=30485 My opinion? If she has just one bout of localised "puppy" mange, and none of the others in her litter or previous siblings got it, then I wouldn't be too concerned about the genetic side of it at all. If she gets it as an adult, I would have her speyed. JMO.

I was going to suggest the Troy repellent as well! You can buy it from most stock feed places that cater to horses & also online. Good stuff! And don't forget a little Betadine or similar on the existing bites so that they don't get infected.

So sad you're going through this. Viruses mutate all the time. There are any number of uncommon viruses that can be fatal to those without robust immune systems - puppies, the aged, the ill. Also some of these mutated viruses mutate themselves out of existence very quickly by being so lethal that no hosts survive to spread them. The result is one reason for "inexplicable" disease. About all that one can hope to do in those cases is try and keep the victim hydrated and nourished until their own immune system overcomes the invader - this can be an incredibly difficult task. I hope your little one survives.

sorry, frufru, but first time I read this I thought you were feeding your dog on cooked fleas! It's usually the other way around (except the fleas eat their dog raw) I have had several Pugs with severe corn allergies, they were quite tolerant of all other grains. Grass/pollen allergies are also common in this breed. Anti-histamines help a lot on relief, some will also give the steriods (prednisol & other cortisones) although I am not a fan of that. Best treatment is to keep them away from the triggers, where that is impractical just treat the symptoms. Trying to cure the allergy is usually a waste of resources IMO. Sponging with ACV solution can give some relief from itching. Make sure that you at least dampen the skin under the coat and let the solution dry on the coat. Am intending to trial the inexpensive Aloe Vera Gel soap-less shampoo (made in QLD) to relieve symptoms of seasonal grass allergies aka "summer itch". Haven't got any further than purchasing a bottle, though. Has anyone else tried it? (Horse vet recommended it to me - albeit it is a dog product.)

Apparently this disease can also be spread by rats & mice although I think here in Australia the deaded leptospirosis is more commonly vectored by them.

Well both the breeder and the lady in the pet store were right! He will eat when he is hungry enough. That might quite a few days if he is stubborn. It is not cruel to offer him a proper meal and to take it away and NOT offer alternatives if he chooses not to eat it. Offer again at his next feed time but NOT BEFORE. It is your responsibility to make sure that he has a good diet and not just "yummy" things, that might even make him sick in the long run. Would you feed your kids on nothing but take-away food? Not feeding him properly is cruel. Letting him dictate to you what he wants is cruel. Don't feel cruel doing the right thing by him!

Same here except they're only 99 cents for the Safeway three pack up here. These are in soya oil which I like because it has an Omega 6 EFA normally derived from the corn in kibble and corn allergies are common in my breed. (http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=fattyacids)

Ally, you were loved sooooo much on this earth. Play and run and dream while you wait at the bridge.

I couldn't agree more that skin problems are often the sign of diet deficiencies or allergies :D Most studies re soy products in dogs diet are based on dogs being fed vegetarian/vegan diets where the main or only protein is soy-derived. Soy protein has a different amino acid content/balance etc. than animal sourced protein. A large percentage (amounts vary betwwen studies) of these dogs on soy protein had skin problems. There are differing opinions whether the skin problems were allergy-related or diet deficiency related. Possibly both in some cases. I would never, ever advocate large amounts of soy products in any dog's diet. Mine get about a teaspoonful (clinging to the sardines) every third day. My breed are prone to corn allergies, and when switching to a corn-free kibble I needed to find an alternate source for linoleic acid (an Omega 3 EFA). Soya oil is a great source for this. I also like that they are getting part of their omega 3 boost together with their omega 6 boost (the sardines). I like it so much that I have continued to do this even though I don't have any corn allergy sufferers at the moment. LovemyCuddledog (don't we all ) please don't use cat kibble as a major part of Triton's diet. Cats have very different nutritional needs to dogs and his skin problem is very probably diet related. He probably has food allergies and you will need to find out what they are. I would recommend working with a vet or nutritionist to pinpoint the food(s) he is allergic to. (sorry bad grammar )

I sometimes wonder about this mystery "average" dog. I've never had to feed one of those. :D I will feed dogs differently depending on whether they are puppies, seniors, highly active, have food allergies etc. I will certainly supplement giant breed puppies differently to small breed puppies etc. etc. A good brand of kibble is a good starting point for a diet (excluding those with corn allergies etc.) but I supplement the kibble to the extent that I suppose I am only feeding 70% kibble. I have a housefull of seniors at the moment - they all have organic Apple Cider Vinegar added to their meat/veg/kibble meal, every third day the meat/veg part of their main meal is sardines in soya oil. I count their breakfast (a bone every other day, the alternate day some other meat product chew - bully stick etc.) as supplement.

OMG more like pug invaders...... they seemed to be going out of the woodwork........... I liked that one. Which oversea forum do you use? Is it Pugs.Com? This is also a good forum, I'm member there also. I lurk on a lot of them from time to time (Pugs.com is ok) but these guys are from PugVillage (where I lurk daily - gotta get a life LOL). Almost all of them are rescues (couple of temporary fosters in there too)

I'm not actually a YouTube fan, but people will keep sending me links... A lot I don't like... pugbowling, skydiving pug etc etc but there are some I treasure, including: Pugs doing the guard dog thing (note the GSD sadly shaking his head LOL) Special to me 'cos I know these guys from an OS forum My absolute favourite...This Pug from Japan demonstrates how Pugs are Einsteins when it comes to food gathering... and have you ever wondered how the PUGS feel about being video stars??? This little guy leaves no doubt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h5gRhtbqPc

I think you probably need a bit of professional guidance to help him settle into the appropiate pack order- but here's one thing you can try to start off. Find whatever pushes his buttons - a food treat, a cuddle treat, a frisbee throw treat, whatever. Use it as a bribe to teach him the sit, or better, the down. Do it thirty times a day until he knows it - (not for thirty minutes at a stretch though - you know what I mean?) then whenever he gets too boisterous, give the order: Beau, sit or Beau, down (happy voice - the idea is to distract him from the joy of rough play or buttinskiing to the joy of "Oooh! I can do this! OOH! I'll get a treat!" .) Then you can tell him how clever he is and do the calming stuff... Even if he's only still for s mins at first every bit helps. Basically, for the first few days until he's reliable with the sit or down you can't leave him unsupervised with them. When you absolutely can't be supervising I would be putting him outside with lots of toys and distractions. Which means locking the GSDs in, unfair, so you can see it's only a short term solution. But I really mean spend every spare minute teaching that sit/down until it's reliable.

That's great news!!

The Plaster went on about 1am on Saturday, I think she said she only got the pup the day before the pup broke its leg. The pup is in a play pen at the moment. I'm going to assume that the rescue/foster did have toilet training fairly advanced. It's not unusual for a pup to go backwards first couple of days in new home anyway plus the amount of trauma this pup had would shake up even an older dog. Is this right? They went out for the evening Friday night - pup broke leg - came home & found it - raced to emergency vet - plastered early hours Sat morn - they phone you Sunday with the worry about toileting problems? I would side with the vet - give it a bit more time - pup is still probably in a bit of shock. They just need to be extra reassuring and patient for a while as pup might be scared of her own plastered leg. Go back to toilet training basic with her. I would suggest they give pup plenty of toys/treat dispensers etc while in confinement to help distract her. The large breed people are saying that a crate would be better than a pen - could the rescue loan one to them maybe? Or could they hire one from their vet? Guess they've learned their lesson the hard way about large breed pups and bathrooms. (Mind you I often recommend gated bathrooms/ensuites as temporary holding pens for Pugs where no pen/crate is available. I can see though where there could be dangers for a large breed active puppy.)

Pup is 11 weeks - how long have they had it and how far had toilet training already progressed before the injury? Also how long 12 hours ? 2 days? since the plaster went on? What meds? The meds could be affecting behavior somewhat. Difficult to give an answer on limited info given. I would be inclined to have indoor puppy pads or incontinence mats ready for indoor emergencies at this stage anyway. Puppy should be confined to indoor pen or similar to restrict activity while the leg is healing is this happening? Whining is more likely to be mental distress (confinement?) than pain I would imagine.

Wow! They put sugar in dog food????? What the devil for????? To make it cheaply palatable. Same as McDonalds etc. which you wouldn't feed your human kids with every day (though they might try as teenagers to live on the stuff LOL) Edited 'cos I missed an essential word DOH!