Thanks guys, we are planning to put clear perspex around the bottom of the pool fence [the fence in the dogs enclosure is set on the ground so we are OK there] We did do the dettol spray bottle last summer and that has made a difference to numbers this year, so we will keep up with that [there is no way that I would catch the disgusting things alive and put them in my freezer....YUCK!!!] Toads deserve to die a horrible death. We never let the furkids out at night without supervision and when we are out at night they are kept inside, I would much rather clean up the very occassional accident than loose one of my precious babies :D . Both our incidences have happened when we have had people around for BBQ's and the dogs have been wandering in and out as they please without direct supervision, very hard to avoid, but hopefully once the fence is done things should be safer. I know for an absolute certainty that the 'leave it' command would not work with my guys, the hunt and chase instinct is too strong, although I was hoping there was a miracle cure out there to actually stop them wanting the toads in the first place!!!