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Wow, she is stunning!! What a pretty girl. I love the background too. Lovely photo.

Tony Parsons books are fantastic but expensive these days. I had to pay over $100 for my copy but its well worth it. ETA just googled it and found he has just published a new book!! So wont be hard to find at all! I think you would find they are dual registered, so registered with ANKC and WKC. They certainly look working line and have working lines in their pedigree. They couldnt be shown, they would be advertising them as sport dogs. Not sure of the ins and outs of dual registry or their purpose. All the duals I have seen couldnt be shown.

Working line breeders are not trying to distunguish their dogs from show lines. They would never even think of them. They are simply breeding with ability and whatever colour comes up, comes up. There is no need to distinguish the two by looks. Most of the time they look different anyway but pop them on stock and there are all the differences they need.

I think Corgi's are a great choice. I grew up with them and now have a beautiful young dog with my 2 little children. They have the working dog temperament so are very sensible and trainable and also active and playful. They will play as long or as short as you want and are very tolerant. My 4yr old can walk her easily on lead and is a good size to handle. They do shed alot though but that can be kept under control. ETA a few more answers to your questions. I think they are a very strong nerved dog so can cope with lots of noise/activity. I have always had Corgi's and Rottweilers and the Corgi's are always the boss. They have solid little bodies so are ok with bigger dogs. I have never had a barking problem. They are good guard dogs but not excessive.

Working breeders are 100% fine with whatever colour the dog is. There are plenty of solid coloured working dogs. My breeder had several when we went out there. He breeds on ability and colour doesnt come into it.

Great thread. I was given my first pup at 11yrs old. A little Corgi that my Mum had bred. We joined the local dog club and quickly got up to the trialling levels. We trained with check chains back then and my poor little dog didnt like that kind of training. She would heel but with no bounce. I wanted to trial her but Mum didnt think it was an appropriate thing for a young girl to be doing so wouldnt drive me. I then got a beautiful Rottweiler when I was 19yrs old (after tonnes of convincing as we are a "corgi family") and started to learn all about the wonders of positive training. She progressed quickly and thrived on training. She got her CD and CDX in 7 trials and then got her AD as well. We had so much fun and I could drive so could finally take myself trialling. Then I was addicted and it all went on from there.....

Any dog can kill a chook, herding or not. It doesnt take much to kill a chook.

I have always had multiple dogs and never allow any aggression unless it is a very brief, deserved snap. I really think allowing fighting and treating dogs the way you percieve they may be ranked is just asking for trouble.

When I lived at home, the dogs were never allowed inside as Mum preferred them outside. They had wonderful lives. I showed and trialled and spent every spare minute with them. A dogs welfare can still be the priority when they live outside. My current dogs live outside. The puppy comes in often but they love being outside. I reckon my Kelpie would sit by the back door if i locked him inside. He comes in sometimes but outside has so many interesting things to do and see. I think some people think outside dogs mean kennel at back door and lonely. We are always outdoors and my dogs definately get alot more interaction and outings than some of my friends who have their dogs indoors. I walk/run my dogs everyday unless it is very severe weather.

Beautiful puppy!! He is a very handsome red and tan but most non dog people would say brown and light brown so I would go with Brown, not red. He is not tri, lots of Working Kelpies have a few white hairs on their chest but they are still red and tan.

Wow, is he 4.5yrs already? How time flys! He is a very laid back worker!

I was going to ask if it was a working type dog. The "Kelpie thing" is doing what some working type dogs do. Generally they watch and if there is some sudden movement, they rush around to block the moving dog. Definately not aggression and will generally do no harm unless the dog being watched gets irritated by being herded. The hard dominant stare is very different and is not at all friendly.

I like Cesar alot.

All this is correct. Show Kelpies can only be certain colours and blk/tan and red/tan etc are included. The solid colours seem more popluar in the show dogs but the are some two tones out there as well. The working bred Kelpies cant be shown as they are working dogs but they can compete with their skills in yard dog trials for example.

Great post poodlefan

I dont believe it is compatible to breed for working and show in some breeds. There always come a point where the breeder has to choose between traits. There are very few excellent show dogs who also have a very high level of working ability. If you want to breed excellent working dogs you breed only from excellent working dogs, the conformation is always there as they cant be excellent workers without it.

There is a big difference in most of the working/show lines and you could defiately tell most of the time if you saw a dog walking down the street. There is also a working dog group in showing which includes dogs which were originally bred to work. This is different to working line which are dogs which are primarily bred for their working ability only.

That is very sad to hear especially from someone wanting to become a trainer. Its worth having an open mind and learning from everyone you can even if you dont agree with everything they say.

And here is the key. You have successfully trained aggressive dogs. There are some pretty strong opinions on here from people who have had nothing to do with aggression let alone successfully worked with them.

Another experienced trainer chased away. You see it all the time on here. Someone with a different view to the majority of regulars and what they say gets totally nitpicked and turned around then they cant be bothered to respond anymore and disappear.... Its generally the working dog trainers. Been a couple this year. So sad. Yes, jump on me and say, but you cant recommend air blocking a dog on a public pet forum, and yes I agree, but there is a place for the technique in experienced hands and i said experienced hands, not in the young inexperienced hands.

You poor thing. What a horrible, scary thing to go through especially having your child with you. Hope you are feeling a bit better now ;) .

Love that first video. Very funny and so true.

From several of the things you have said, I tend to get the opinion that you really need to work on leadership. Dogs can start reacting to things out of fear, but then because it works, they get more confident at it. At a guess, I would say that the dog isnt protecting you but is allowed to get away with a behaviour so it is escalating. The leader is the one that chooses if and when protecting is necessary. ETA I was still writing when Erny posted so i didnt see it. Ignore my post, Erny says it much better .

This was my first thought. They probably arent really hungry and its so much easier to eat their other food at dinner time.

Fantastic!! Afghans are such clowns The dog was having such fun. What a good trainer she is!