Steve

Photo taken last year and we were both standing beside each other. Some dolers met him in Brisbane.

My son is 2 metres 25 cms tall and he walks a beagle - doesnt leave much room for lifting your hand above your knee cap. edited because I mucked up the conversion of inches to cms.

Its just honestly gotten to a point where little surprises me and its harder to find words to explain the stupidity thats going on. Who are they listening to? What are they thinking? Sooner or later there has to be a battle and votes are going to count . Time we all stood united so we outnumber the ratbags.

Thats it then - Victorians - save yourself - evacuate now!

At least he can now see himself in the mirror to see if he looks like a "Pitty". This is not a slur on Sharpei breeders, but on HIS breeder. Entropian is not just a Pei problem and frankly more dont have it than do RSPCA seem to think that ALL Pei need entropian SPR have his sister in care and she is fine Our survey is showing it at 36% That is interesting In my figures of rescue I have it at 311 rescues, 64 entropians, that might not have happened if the dog was tacked as a pup Then it would be good if you entered these into our data base to be included in our figures.

At least he can now see himself in the mirror to see if he looks like a "Pitty". This is not a slur on Sharpei breeders, but on HIS breeder. Entropian is not just a Pei problem and frankly more dont have it than do RSPCA seem to think that ALL Pei need entropian SPR have his sister in care and she is fine Our survey is showing it at 36%

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Hold off for a couple of days yet Julie

http://kdka.com/wireapnewsfnpa/Pa.Supreme.....2.1396115.html TEXT SIZE _By: MARK SCOLFORO_ (mailto:) The Associated Press Tuesday December 29, 2009 07:53 PM The Pennsylvania Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals doesn't qualify as a state agency and so can't claim immunity from a lawsuit over the euthanization of a woman's dogs, the state Supreme Court ruled Tuesday. The court ruled unanimously that the nonprofit group is not entitled to the defense of sovereign or governmental immunity despite its work enforcing state animal control laws. The SPCA appealed after a Philadelphia jury awarded Laila Snead about $155,000 in a case that began with the January 1999 seizure of about a dozen dogs from what court records described as an abandoned home. A humane society officer reported there were 13 dogs, according to a lower-court ruling in the matter, but Snead maintains that there were only 12 dogs and that she was staying in the home off and on at the time. All but one of the dogs were pit bulls, and the humane society officer said several of the dogs were wounded and emaciated, according to a July 2007 Superior Court opinion. Snead showed up shortly after officers arrived at the scene and was arrested on dog fighting charges. Those charges were dropped the following day, although she later was convicted of a summary offense of animal cruelty. Snead said that three days later, when she tried to check on her dogs at a shelter, she was told they had been put to sleep, although that didn't occur until three more days had passed. An SPCA official denied that he told her the dogs had been euthanized, but the jury sided with her. On appeal, the state Superior Court rejected the SPCA's argument that it was immune from being sued and granted Snead attorney's fees but reversed the $100,000 punitive-damages portion of the verdict. That lower-court decision was upheld on Tuesday by the Supreme Court. "The SPCA selects its own directors, who oversee it and elect its officers," Justice J. Michael Eakin wrote. "The SPCA's funding largely derives from non-governmental sources. The SPCA cannot point to any commonwealth assets that would be at risk from any judgment against it; commonwealth resources would not be imperiled if the SPCA is exposed to legal liability." Snead, who now lives in Reading, said she was pleased with the verdict but "all the money in the world is not going to bring my dogs back." "When they say, 'You know what? We're going to do this and we don't care what the law says, what you think about it, this is what we're doing,' then, yes, in that case, something should be done," Snead said. "My only recourse was the civil court system." SPCA spokeswoman Gail Luciani said the group was disappointed with the ruling because of its far-reaching implications.

Depends where you live - in some states they are illegal. Funny I want my dogs to bark when anything is out of the ordinary and Id rather have their voices lowered if I was in your position than train it out of them. Im lucky Ive never had to use either a collar or voice lowering because I live in the boonies and they get to bark their hearts out.

There here !

So why dna ?

Are we there yet?

http://www.showdogsupersite.com/kenlclub/breedvet/herx.html Written by Mary C. Wakeman, D.V.M. Ashford Animal Clinic Canine Fertility Center So, the point of all of this is, what happens to the pregnant bitch if she has this kind of reaction. What happens to sperm if the stud dog gets monthly heartworm and also harbors intestinal parasites. These are some of the matters which have led a significant number of veterinarians to say 'no' to monthly heartwormers. 'No' to all of them, since the precise chemical isn't the problem, but the very mechanism of action of this form of heartworm control. All of those 'monthlies' which advertise control of intestinal parasites are actually saying they can cause this kind of problem. When a new medication comes on the market, we are supposed to ask three questions: 1. Is it more effective? 2. Is it safer? 3. Is it cheaper? Monthly heartworm medication gets a 'no' response to each of these questions. Is it good for your vet's bottom line? Well, that one gets a 'yes'. The rule for breeding animals, dogs or bitches is no monthly heart worm medication.

How is the 12% labradors scored any better than the 12% scored by another breed? Comparing the two they look as bad as each other. The same percentage. The only difference is that labs are a popular breed, so there are many thousands of them having beeen diagnosed with HD. Is that really better than you thought it was? Well gees........wasnt quite the point I was trying to make, but I would think 12% is a lot better than 73% and considering that it is a requirement for Labradors to be x-rayed for HD - according to that list they come in at no. 79 - so there appears to be a lot more breeds that it should also be compulsory for, rather than the few breeds in Australia that have to be done. Yes I'm with you Miss Monaro - Our survey is also showing them currently at around 11.5% - way under many breeds. Makes you ask why it was bought in for this breed as compulsory anyway expecially considering the results are not taken into account - only that they have been done.

are you sure it was ivomec injectable? Not sheep ivomec?

Looks like there are some people mentioned in this thread who should be nominated -only a few hours left. awards

Oh that's interesting. I thought that survey was about capturing information about what the 'current state of play' was for how working dogs were kept, trained and bred, etc. rather than to develop any standards. I just ran a google search - there's an information sheet that says: What does the study involve? This research uses a survey to gather data about how you train, handle, house and care for your working dogs. It aims to develop the first database of information about working dogs in Australia. The reason underlying the collection of these data is to provide insights into the welfare status of dogs used in work by humans. There are currently few opportunities for collaboration between the different working dog sectors at both an Australian and international level. We anticipate that this study will facilitate collaboration between the industries involved to enhance knowledge sharing and hence improve efficiency, output and functionality of working dog programs. Also this article says its NOT to be used to change regulations: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/15/2626437.htm Have any regulations been changed since the article you mentioned was published? Do you have a link for the article? Thanks! In some states you already cant use E collars so it wont need to be used to change regulations - but its a clear heads up to RSPCA or similar that working dog people are using them regardless of the law. In states where its not already law they may not use it to change regulations but sure as hell it would be cited if there was opposition to it. Do you really think that if one breed is identified as being more likely to be more friendly the ones more likely more aggressive wont be? Do you really think if they do identify some dogs and breeds as being more aggresive they wont be using the DNA to prove there is a genetic component which can be identified as being in some breeds and not others? If They are going to proceed to the second study they are going to need to correlate the DNA with the behaviours because if they dont the DNA means nothing. What then - pitbulls have a gene identified as more aggressive ? Take th eDNA so if they want to do further studies they have th e material they need? What good is DNA without qualification?

Why not nominate your breeders and puppy buyers ?

Not my department so cant answer that right now for you.

Yep we need as many as possible including the ones which have no health issues.

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Agreed and while I havent looked at it for a while because I dont work in the field any longer there have been several studies with aggressive prisoners[ murderers] They found that when babies cry and they are comforted and soothed by their Mum that they secrete seretonin so their body learns how to produce this as they grow to counteract stress and testosterone.Without that experience regardless of genes they grow up as individuals which are anti social or more prone to violence or depression because their bodies never learned as babies how to manufacture the chemicals they need. Regardless of breed its about how they are reared ,socialised and handled as babies and based on the fact that certain traits suit different people trying to tie this to breeds is missing a very large chunck of the info required to determine what dogs make the best pets. Another part is how capable the owner is at bonding with a dog too.

Yep definitely.

nods - the health survey is currently showing 0 % with HD in Aussie Sheps.