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Most people would not be able to tell the difference between a solid-coloured Working Kelpie and a lean show Kelpie, or a chunky Working Kelpie from a show Kelpie. There are still a few two tone show Kelpies out there but very few, generally the breeders seem to prefer the solid colours - which I found out for myself from Australian Kelpie breeders when I went looking for a two tone show Kelpie Working line breeders don't seem to care about colours or even if ears are up or down, just the working ability. Some people I know prefer the look of the show Kelpies, others prefer working lines - it's nice to have the choice. I actually wish I could access some of the working lines with my kelpies. You also have to understand that breeders today can only work with what they have- so there are not a lot of ANKC registered kelpies out there that carry the tan gene. Thus I quite like the two tone kelpies, but don't have access to those lines at this point, and it would take two generations to produce any pups with that colouring- I am limited by past breeding decisions of others and the genetics of my own dogs and the ridiculous rules the ANKC imposes on cross registration of Kelpies.

No. They'll be waiting a very long time. I don't know about that...they are already a recognised breed in America in the miscallenes(spelling) class. Its called a Mi Ki Mi-Ki A toy sized companion dog the Mi-Ki is a loving and friendly pet. There are several theories as to how exactly the breed developed. One of the theories or origins is that it was developed in the 1980 in Wisconsin by one breeder named Micki Macklin. In this origin several toy breeds were crossed in the lines including stock from the Yorkshire Terrier, Papillon, Shih Tzu, Japanese Chin and Maltese lines. Other theories of origin from different clubs include the same general foundation breeds, however not all include the Shih Tzu lines and some have almost no records of the exact toy breeds used to develop the Mi-Ki. Regardless of the foundation lineage the Mi-Ki does have breed standards and is recognized by many of the individual registries although not currently with the major Kennel Clubs. The Mi-Ki is a toy size companion pet, not typically weighing more than 10 pounds at maturity. It can be long or short coated, either variety is acceptable, but on both coat types the ears have to feathered and highly mobile. The tail is carried high over the hips and is fringed, giving a balanced appearance to the dog. They can come in a variety of colors from fawns to browns and even blue colored coats. Eye colors vary from dark brown to blue and should correspond with the coat color. As with any toy breed dental problems can occur in the Mi-Ki so regular dental hygiene is essential. The shorter muzzled dogs are prone to the same respiratory problems as Pugs and should be carefully monitored when exercising. That sounds a little different to a pup that was bred by someone who happens to own a Shih Tzu and a Maltese and decided to have a litter..... From my research no Australian Bred examples would be accepted into the ANKC, the Mi-Ki would have to be imported from America once it has full recognition.

Beautiful!! Well a minor potential disaster- Franky has fractured her Canine (right off to the gum line). We had it removed, but now have to wait and see if there was any damage done by infection going through the pulp cavity..... Little miss didnt even go off food so I am not sure when it happened!! So I will be taking a slightly gummier puppy in the the ring next time

OK how about an ANKC that is not slow- These are not new problems. There has been a need for media coverage for a number of years, and the National set of Conformation Rules- just how long before that will actually come into effect IF it passes?? With Neuter- it would have been a good idea if it had been a national movement. The slow start in Victoria, and QLD ignoring it has made it into a bit of a joke. (Opps that debacle comes back to the National set of Conformation rules doesnt it......) Perhaps the ANKC needs to prioritise getting good Veterinary information to its members. It is lovely that you have a Vet as a committee member, but are they willing to answer emails about genetic questions, write genetic lectures to deliver to members and advise on breeding programs? In the state of high visibility the community has regarding genetic issues asking the states for funding for even one geneticist to be available free, or at a low charge to members would be a good PR move and significantly help members who do not know enough about genetics to have a positive contribution to their breed. And you didnt address getting in the general punters- having them join would provide additional funding to your other projects!!. The pet owners who dont want to compete in sports on conformation! They want a voice to stand up for them with the government. And where are the programs to promote responsible dog ownership- I assume they would be education seminars?? To get members you have to be seen doing something for them. You need breeders telling their puppy owners that it is worth joining, and you need vets telling THEIR clients it is worth joining.

OK how about an ANKC that is not slow- These are not new problems. There has been a need for media coverage for a number of years, and the National set of Conformation Rules- just how long before that will actually come into effect IF it passes?? With Neuter- it would have been a good idea if it had been a national movement. The slow start in Victoria, and QLD ignoring it has made it into a bit of a joke. (Opps that debacle comes back to the National set of Conformation rules doesnt it......) Perhaps the ANKC needs to prioritise getting good Veterinary information to its members. It is lovely that you have a Vet as a committee member, but are they willing to answer emails about genetic questions, write genetic lectures to deliver to members and advise on breeding programs? In the state of high visibility the community has regarding genetic issues asking the states for funding for even one geneticist to be available free, or at a low charge to members would be a good PR move and significantly help members who do not know enough about genetics to have a positive contribution to their breed. And you didnt address getting in the general punters- having them join would provide additional funding to your other projects!!. The pet owners who dont want to compete in sports on conformation! They want a voice to stand up for them with the government. And where are the programs to promote responsible dog ownership- I assume they would be education seminars?? To get members you have to be seen doing something for them. You need breeders telling their puppy owners that it is worth joining, and you need vets telling THEIR clients it is worth joining.

OK how about an ANKC that is not slow- These are not new problems. There has been a need for media coverage for a number of years, and the National set of Conformation Rules- just how long before that will actually come into effect IF it passes?? With Neuter- it would have been a good idea if it had been a national movement. The slow start in Victoria, and QLD ignoring it has made it into a bit of a joke. (Opps that debacle comes back to the National set of Conformation rules doesnt it......) Perhaps the ANKC needs to prioritise getting good Veterinary information to its members. It is lovely that you have a Vet as a committee member, but are they willing to answer emails about genetic questions, write genetic lectures to deliver to members and advise on breeding programs? In the state of high visibility the community has regarding genetic issues asking the states for funding for even one geneticist to be available free, or at a low charge to members would be a good PR move and significantly help members who do not know enough about genetics to have a positive contribution to their breed. And you didnt address getting in the general punters- having them join would provide additional funding to your other projects!!. The pet owners who dont want to compete in sports on conformation! They want a voice to stand up for them with the government. And where are the programs to promote responsible dog ownership- I assume they would be education seminars?? To get members you have to be seen doing something for them. You need breeders telling their puppy owners that it is worth joining, and you need vets telling THEIR clients it is worth joining.

OK how about an ANKC that is not slow- These are not new problems. There has been a need for media coverage for a number of years, and the National set of Conformation Rules- just how long before that will actually come into effect IF it passes?? With Neuter- it would have been a good idea if it had been a national movement. The slow start in Victoria, and QLD ignoring it has made it into a bit of a joke. (Opps that debacle comes back to the National set of Conformation rules doesnt it......) Perhaps the ANKC needs to prioritise getting good Veterinary information to its members. It is lovely that you have a Vet as a committee member, but are they willing to answer emails about genetic questions, write genetic lectures to deliver to members and advise on breeding programs? In the state of high visibility the community has regarding genetic issues asking the states for funding for even one geneticist to be available free, or at a low charge to members would be a good PR move and significantly help members who do not know enough about genetics to have a positive contribution to their breed. And you didnt address getting in the general punters- having them join would provide additional funding to your other projects!!. The pet owners who dont want to compete in sports on conformation! They want a voice to stand up for them with the government. And where are the programs to promote responsible dog ownership- I assume they would be education seminars?? To get members you have to be seen doing something for them. You need breeders telling their puppy owners that it is worth joining, and you need vets telling THEIR clients it is worth joining.

Thanks for the tip Woofen - we've only had 2 wks of show training and so far I'm shovelling the treats down for stand after doing out and back - though I've tried weaning her off to 2 seconds - but she sits her butt on the ground With this I might try holding the treat up to their mouth but not letting them actually get it. Giving them a marker word then releasing the treat. Then having the next treat pushed up into your fingers but not letting her get it again. It still keeps them interested and standing, but reduces the speed of treats. I then make it so they cant really get to the treat as much by rotating my hand, giving the marker word and treating them. It is also teaching them to 'leave it' in the end as well lol. Hopefully we can catch up at one of your future shows

I nearly lost Franky too!!

I keep my reward rate high- and try and reward 5 times before they break the stand, even if at the beginning it means holding the food right up to them and treating every 1second or so. Once they have learnt that they continue to get treats for 'holding' the stand I start to up the criteria for how they stand, and decreasing the rate of reinforcement (ie drop down to one treat every 10 seconds). I will begin moving their head and my body around till their front end is even. Once they are naturally standing square at the front you usually find the back will follow. If not I just keep moving them till they are square in the back and jackpot and try and give treats even faster I have been practicing being mouthed for quite a while, but I begin while they are sleepy or calm so it is not a game.

It will depend if the pulp cavity is exposed and the experience of your veterinarian. If the pulp cavity is exposed your dog will be in pain and it should not just be left, regardless of what the vet says (I say this because the first vet I went to said we could leave it, and many do because they have not been taught much about this area). Here is a link to what happened with my girl yesterday- http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/222581-fractured-tooth/ I would suggest going to a veterinarian that has had some experience if the pulp cavity is exposed. This is a list of Veterinarians with an interest in dentistry http://www.petdental.com.au/avds_members.htm If it does need extracting I would suggest going to someone who x-rays before the operation to ensure they know where they are cutting, and after to make sure they have got the entire tooth out.

lol - i actually wondered if I should have typed "Australian" in front of them or if they are known just as kelpies. Now I know another awesome dog - hey they were developed from coolie stock so of course they are jrts - are definitely english. Every second english household seems to have one - I think from memory that my aunt's sister had some of the first ones in the 1970s, they were pretty rare back then anyway. I could be wrong though. They seem to have gained popularity very quickly. Its OK I was told at an OB club that I joined recently that 'no one' used Australian, and that the breed name was just the Kelpie. I asked them politely to include the "Aust." on my membership card :D

Its an Australian Kelpie ;)

She really is. She even let me cuddle Franky in a quiet room while we were waiting for her pre-med to kick in so she would stay nice and relaxed= less drugs needed later.

Hmmm- the kelpies have suffered being christmas trees, reindeers, fairy princesses and even got dressed up for the football (flyball demos, christmas events, walks etc) lmao I cant remember where I have loaded the pictures though... No photo but a link to what a kelpie will put up with My link Found some- piggies Bluey (who didnt want to move) Abby

Well we were off to the vet yesterday- Frank had broken her deciduous Canine off, right at the base of her gumline. I spoke to my normal, GP vet and he believed that it should be fine to be left in. I was not completely convinced so asked for a Referral to Christina Hawke- who is a Resident in Veterinary Dentistry. That was at 11am, and Franky's tooth was removed by 4pm. Franky had exposed her pulp cavity- she was not showing any signs of being in pain (eating etc) but Christina explained that it would be as painful as a human with an exposed nerve and dog have just learnt to hide their pain as a survival technique. So saying that they didnt seem to be bothered by it was no excuse not to remove her tooth because she was most certainly in pain!! Furthermore there was a very high risk of infection that would damage the developing enamel on her Adult tooth- and by the time infection is seen it would already be too late. The cells creating the enamel are very delicate so she took care when removing the tooth not to perform any further trauma. Franky had an x-ray done prior to having her tooth removed, to ensure that she only had to make one incision and she could avoid the developing adult tooth. She then did another at the end to ensure all the root had been taken out. Ever step was done with the aim of preserving her adult tooth. I am not sure how long ago she fractured it so fingers crossed we got to it in time. Please any one who has a dog that fractures is tooth please get it seen by your local VET asap. They ARE in pain- it is cruel to leave them like that! For more information on who to talk to about dental issues http://www.sydneypetdentistry.com.au/ http://www.petdental.com.au/

Perhaps also health testing that is linked with pedigrees in their system? So you can track diseases through their progeny Also why not a veterinary geneticist on staff? Purely to educate breeders on genetics of diseases so that they can eliminate them- ie using carrier to clear matings etc. So people are not relying on their vets who may/may not be up to date in this area. People could email questions/ book in consults at a discounted members price.

All of the above again and.... Better advertising- media and events team that have experience (so their open days have a big turn up and they are run well) A system to have new dog sports introduced on a trial then permanent basis (ie put on trial with only a small interest group to allow it to develop quickly- although that is just off the top of my head) Encouraging breed clubs to do more than just put on a show- have fenced grounds and encourage them to hold a breed meet each year- either in conjunction with a show or as an additional gathering. This will increase the benefits for non show people so there may be an increase in membership Offer education classes in basic puppy health things such as nail clipping for puppy owners of ANKC breeders

I would join a group that intended to lobby the ANKC/Dogs NSW for the changes that I as a member want. I think that would assist me more than having a new registry. But ultimately I DO plan on becoming more involved in breed/all breed clubs this year, and hope to attend a few Dogs NSW meetings (Sorry but during the day for General meetings is just silly!) but that is because I am not studying full time so have the time to do so.

David Lidbetter at Parramatta Veterinary Surgical Specialists. He is amazing and gets very good results. Your vet would need to refer you on to see him as he does not see walk ins. He deals with Hips, knees, elbows, spinal and specialist surgeries.

I think if you have always wanted a Standard Poodle then I think you should go for it Disclaimer- have never owned a poodle. I have however lived with breeds that 'need a lot of exercise' but when it comes down to it they need companionship more. One of my kelpies has not been walked for 3mths because I have had an ankle reconstruction. He doesnt care because I have spent more time cuddling him!! I have had to do more training with him at home to burn off the energy but he has not become destructive because of the lack of exercise. I would suggest emailing some Standard breeders and see what they say. When I sold my Kelpie pups I was actually more interested in them being allowed in the house of an evening (at least) than I was about big back yards or them getting hours of exercise each day.

Yes that would have been them The free stack was after we had been in the ring- of course It wont take him long to realise it should happen in the ring too.

Here are my 2011 Rising Stars Jumabaar Pretty in Pink "Franky" And the boy I co-own Jumabaar Helta Skelta "Cahill" I realised on the weekend that I need to make a little more effort in visiting Cahill at his pet home for training. He was getting soooo confused the poor little muffin but trying his best to behave- which meant saying hello to all the dogs in the ring and the judge and the flies and the shadows and the leaves..... I love babies and their ability to be distracted by anything!! Franky was a little robot dog- she just wanted food and when she worked out that standing still got you treats then thats what she was going to do. It made gaiting interesting though

I was just wondering who was offering Private agility training these days The class environment is just too much for one of my dogs and would love some small group or private lessons. I also have a new bubba Kelpie and want some help getting the foundations started, because I didnt do that with my older dogs and it shows!! Thanks

After lunch is fine too Just let me know when