Maddy

I agree fully. It doesn't take much for a 78 year old to fall down stairs. Again the dog might suffer because of a clueless owner It's not only the risk of a fall. As you age, your skin becomes much more fragile and tears very easily. A nip from a tiny dog could cause an elderly person a lot of damage- I've seen the result of a carer just bumping an elderly woman's leg as she was moving something and the end result was far worse than you'd think (also a huge infection risk- dog bite and elderly person whose immune system isn't going to be as strong as a younger person's). And as Tilly points out.. size alone does not make a dog safe or unsafe. I have large dogs and I've never been so much as growled at, let alone nipped.. but.. I have been bitten quite badly by a chihuahua before. If anything, I worry more about small dogs because there is a perception that because they are small, they don't need to be on leash or trained (or PTS if they display the sort of HA which would normally see a large dog destroyed with no questions asked). Typo

Exactly. A lot of people complain about medical testing involving animals but the reality is, without that testing, we wouldn't be able to treat a huge number of diseases.

A correct direct quote you saw with your own eyes or a correct direct quote that you heard from someone else? (And this is being generous and assuming the media have it correct to start with- after all, they do have a reputation of over-exaggeration and obscenely poor fact checking ;) )

I questioned it because it didn't sound correct. As far as I've been able to find out, DHT never said they'd run out by Friday and that part was entirely incorrect. I think DHT do awesome work and I'm always happy to help them, I just think people need to check facts before posting appeals. If anything, statements like "The Dogs Home will run out of food on X day" calls into question their management skills and even the welfare of the animals in their care by suggesting those animals will shortly starve without immediate intervention by the public Totally, because no one down here could possibly be helping in ways you don't know about. :rolleyes:

I found this post on their site http://dogshomesoftas.com.au/2011/07/yum-yum-food-in-my-tum/ but nothing about them running out of food by Friday. A bit of drama makes a story more interesting, I suppose. The "dogs will starve on Friday" angle certainly demands a bit more attention than the official "We're running quite short".

Yes, when we stop traeting dogs other than the companion animals they are and supporting organisations which kill them because they refuse to buid sufficient shelters. Go No Kill Australia. Even if "no kill" directly conflicts with the welfare of the animals involved?

As far as I know, they're the Kumalong collars which you can actually buy directly from the Kumalong website- http://www.kumalongshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=29

Sorry Kavik - was thinking of the Rogs ones. eta - they're very pretty HA - but yowch! Are they always that expensive?? Mine were less that half that even with international shipping! I dunno. I have a couple of "pretty" ones that I bought a while back but I really only use the Blackdog ones now so haven't bought fabric collars for ages. Those prices do seem about average though for the fabric collars, from what I can recall. Edited to add.. http://www.jewelledhound.com/ Used to have more links but now I can't find them :rolleyes:

The Blackdog sighthound collars definitely don't have chain. I've got four greyhounds wearing them right now :p But anyway.. http://www.dogkingdom.com.au/index.php/cPath/1_4?osCsid=2a28e67cddbbfd20efa1990260ed38e6

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showproduct.php?product=1031&cat=all I wouldn't feed it to my dogs, even if they were eating commercially prepared foods. http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showcat.php?cat=all&stype=1&si=kirkland <- Reviews for a few other products in their range. Typo.

The racing industry down here weren't at all keen on chipping dogs (in fact, when I was running GAP here, they questioned me on my policy of chipping dogs) but the reason they got the exemption.. I can only assume it's because racing greyhounds aren't considered to be companion animals but if that's the case, in my opinion, it's not a good enough reason. We get our fosters chipped but not registered. When a new home comes up, we can register the chip then and that ensures the new owner is on the chip and they can change/update their details whenever they need to, online. It also means we get a choice of registry- our vet registers chips with the National Pet Register and I'll admit I'm not keen on supporting that registry as they're affiliated with The Lost Dogs Home. Typos

"Other than vermin" I tried to find some kind of list actually defining vermin species and came up with nothing (besides a Tasmanian pest register which included cats, dogs and several native species). The Tasmanian legislation regarding dog attacks doesn't even have the exception for vermin so technically, my starling-eating greyhound could be declared a dangerous dog, as far as I could find (which is a real worry) The legislation, from here- http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/tas/consol_act/dca2000134/s19.html

I'm assuming that's for council rego though (for which the dog must be 6 months+ in most councils in Tasmania and I'm sure most councils on the mainland would be the same), councils don't generally deal with microchip registrations/chang of ownerships because they don't run the chip registries. If Woofen is selling pups under that age that aren't registered with the council, (down here, at least) she wouldn't be breaking any laws (although now they would at least have to be chipped).

Well.. some greys. The exemption applies for dogs that are currently registered with Racing Services Tasmania so that exlcudes all retired dogs as retiring a dog (with the form) means the dog is no longer registered.

It's a little disappointing they've chosen to exempt greyhounds. We've had several come in without even ear brands and even with ear brands, there can be a great deal of trouble tracking the current owner. Our foster Grace is a good example of that- she's branded but wasn't registered with Racing Services Tasmania so as far as they were concerned, she had no owner and could not be returned (Grace was picked up as a stray). A microchip registered with a proper registry would make it much harder for dogs like Grace to just disappear off the radar.

But they do a 125% price guarantee, which means they will match the price of the competitor product and take off another 25% edit: Anyways, you're paying much more at Vetnpet than I pay at PPOTW ;) ( http://www.petproductsontheweb.com.au/advocate_000.htm ) I don't buy mine from vetnpet anyway :p I get mine for $85 (with free shipping) for a six pack. Edit.. so yeah.. same price as you pay. It's a Friday so I'm allowed to be slow :p Ooh, who's your supplier? I need names! (Always on the hunt for a bargain) I get mine from here- http://stores.ebay.com.au/JAFFAS-ON-LINE-SHOP She lives in the same town so that's why I don't pay postage :p She also delivers really quickly and she's a great seller. I've also bought Capstar from her but it looks like she's not stocking that anymore, which kinda sucks (was buying it from there for my sister's cats) and.. looks like Advocate has gone up by 4.95 from the last time I bought some, which wasn't that long ago. But still.. next day delivery is worth it, especially when we sometimes need things unexpectedly (like this.. :rolleyes: http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/217962-flea-removal/ ) Edited to add.. Does PPOW have dog wormers? I'm looking but not seeing.. Re-edited to add.. Not heartwormers, as we don't have heartworm down here (and they get Advocate anyway, even if we did have heartworm here). Needs to be something that also covers hydatids. Re-re-edited to add.. Preferably something that comes in bulk amounts. We have four large dogs who are treated every second month (because we feed raw and I'm paranoid about hydatids) and at the moment, they're nomming down 13 (10kg) tablets ever second month. I usually buy them either the Troy 100 packs or the Ambex 50 but brand isn't a huge issue.

But they do a 125% price guarantee, which means they will match the price of the competitor product and take off another 25% edit: Anyways, you're paying much more at Vetnpet than I pay at PPOTW ;) ( http://www.petproductsontheweb.com.au/advocate_000.htm ) I don't buy mine from vetnpet anyway :p I get mine for $85 (with free shipping) for a six pack. Edit.. so yeah.. same price as you pay. It's a Friday so I'm allowed to be slow :p

I definitely wouldn't be buying flea control products from them. Did a quick comparison for Advocate (the brand I buy) and Trixanpet charges $172.66 for a six pack, compared to Vetnpet who only charge $100.50. That's a huge price difference.

Actually.. I have noticed certain dogs can exhibit odd behaviours around some perfumes or deodorants. However.. it's totally the opposite to what your neighbour believes :p Panterka's greyhound is a great example of that- spray on some Lynx Africa and it's like catnip to him. He rubs, he nuzzles in under arms, he goes into a state of giddy, greyhound ecstasy. He also apparently does the same thing to carpets with Shake'n'Vac on them. As for greyhound-specific things.. I could write a book of all the stupid things people have told me about my dogs (often by people who've only just told me that they've never actually seen a greyhound in person :rolleyes: )

Definitely. One of our current fosters (Grace) would completely ignore toys when she first arrived and showed no real interest in playing with the other dogs. Now, her toy stash has to be emptied out every week and the other dogs are getting sick of being nagged into playing with her (she'll bark at them to get their attention and will keep it up until someone gets out of their bed to chase her). It does take a bit of time but they do get there in the end (my oldest greyhound, a nine year old boy, also only recently started playing with other dogs and we've had him for four years). Typo

Definitely not sand. We found that one out the hard way although I have to admit it's actually kind of impressive how far across the yard they can spread the stuff (and how nicely it sticks to their fur in summer when they have permoxin on- turning them into grotty sand monsters to facilitate the spreading into the house, their beds and somehow even into the laundry sink). Personally, I'd stick with grass if you can't lay concrete. We have pavers in one part of the yard and they're more of a hassle than the original grass was.

It probably depends a lot on the individual circumstances as we've had a grey we adopted out kill a neighbour's cat off their property and the council investigated and decided that no action against the dog was necessary. The front door was accidentally left open and the cat was on their front porch- cat was chased to and killed on the road in front of their house- public land. Presumably though, because the chase started at the dog's front door, it's a different story (the cat also had a history of sitting on the lounge room window ledges, right at the dog's level). The neighbours (as far as I've been told) were basically informed that because their cat was on the property of the dog when the attack started, they were SOL. Lesson learned for them, I suppose. Typo

I dunno.. our guys have gotten brushtail possums before and on the one occasion they managed to actually start eating before losing their prize to a plastic bag in the bin, it looked as if someone had blown up a possum filled only with possum fur in our yard. Fine, fluffy fur everywhere from where the naughty hound who got the possum has started plucking out its belly fur before eating There was definitely no doubt that the crime had occured. Our neighbours have finally cut back some of their overhanging trees so hopefully next summer, we won't have to worry about the possums. Cats on the other hand.. we still have to watch for and shoo off when they start hanging around on the fence. It shouldn't be my responsibility but I can't handle the thought of having to get a dead or dying cat back off the dogs.

I find it a little hard to believe that a dog that kills another animal on its own property would be considered a dangerous dog (unless the animal was another dog and then I think it's a little more reasonable to be concerned). One of my greyhounds gets the occasional starling and both of my greys would go after a cat if they got the chance but that doesn't make them "dangerous" (and they'd certainly never harm a child- it's the girl we have with the really high drive that's actually the best with small children). If my neighbours were concerned about the safety of their cats, I guess they'd keep them on their own property, like I do with my dogs I'm afraid I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for people who let their animals roam.

I honestly don't believe pricing is the issue. As far as I know, many of the rare breeds are priced the way they are because breeders produce those puppies at great expense (including import costs and higher vet costs for breeds that often require c-sections). Edited to add.. And Showdog is right- most of the BYB'd pet shop puppies I've seen have cost more than a puppy from a registered breeder. People will pay more for something they perceive to be of greater value and that all comes down to how something is marketed. Unfortunately, the oodles have been very well-marketed by people like The Berk.