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The hounds hadn't noticed. On the other side though (not sure if it can be seen in any of those pics) there's a running greyhound and she'll also do names, etc. Definitely cosy coats though, double layer of fleece and the necks seem to stay standing up better than a lot of other coats we've tried. They cost us $10 more per coat that the other ones that are always available on Ebay for hounds but they're worth the bit extra for the full fleece neck (instead of the ribbing neck).
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Totally OT but.. Stuff like this makes me cringe. Perhaps the site owners don't understand that policies like this support pants-on-head retarded court rulings like this.. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/201206illegaltolink.htm Anyways.. this person often has awesome coats for sale. I've bought some of them for my own hounds and then a few for the foster hounds, the cut is really generous (no naked hound bums) but the shape prevents them from getting soiled. She also does whippy coats \o/ that link took me to a custom embroidery page. Me too Yes, she does embroidered dog coats. Currently doesn't have any listed but there's usually some there. Might pay to send her a message, see if she'll put some up. Some photos of her coats (can't link directly back to pictures, sorry) http://www.greyhoundhaven.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=138819568 Girl coat, Dora was very small so the standard fit was a little big for her. http://www.greyhoundhaven.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=141722151 Gave her the measurements for this one myself, over-measured to be safe so it's too long. Despite that, he's never gotten this coat wet. http://www.greyhoundhaven.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=130899165 And.. Doug \o/
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Totally OT but.. Stuff like this makes me cringe. Perhaps the site owners don't understand that policies like this support pants-on-head retarded court rulings like this.. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/201206illegaltolink.htm Anyways.. this person often has awesome coats for sale. I've bought some of them for my own hounds and then a few for the foster hounds, the cut is really generous (no naked hound bums) but the shape prevents them from getting soiled. She also does whippy coats \o/
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Given how horrible the disease is in humans (and potentially fatal), I wouldn't be taking any risks, even if it's not especially common these days. We worm every six to eight weeks and I check all meat thoroughly as I'm weighing it out for bagging. Muscle meat is fed raw (after being frozen for about one week) but liver and kidney is boiled for at least 20 minutes. Meat that has come from a human-grade abbatoir is inspected but even then, you aren't guaranteed that it's definitely clear. Talk to someone who has seen hydatids in a human before, you probably won't feel foolish at all. Horrid disease and one that the mainland will likely never be free of.
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Plastic, Ceramic Or Metal Bowls
Maddy replied to Skruffy n Flea's topic in Health / Nutrition / Grooming
For water, we have one very large plastic one outside (big enough for feet to be dipped in, seeing as some of the hounds like doing that in summer) and a smaller stainless steel one in the garage. For food.. I stopped bothering to put it in bowls :p We feed raw so the food is in the bowl only as long as it takes for me to put it on the floor. We feed outside now for this reason- chicken blood is really quite hard to get out of carpet. When we were using food bowls, it was stainless steel though. The noise of them being pushed across the floor drives me batsh*t but they were easier to clean than plastic and couldn't be chewed. -
The last two boys we've have done cost us.. $120 (including an ear bump cut open, cells tested ang wound cauterised) for a 38.6kg dog and.. $175 for a 35kg dog with retained testicle and that one included a C5 with bronchi shield and a microchip.
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Knowing that particular suburb, I could take a fairly good guess at breed (well.. crossbreed, really) but it is disappointing that so much emphasis is on breed when the mother was the one at fault. People love a good, old fashioned witch hunt and unfortunately, in the case of dog bites, circumstances are rarely looked at appropriately or fairly. Some of the comments mentioned that the dog could bite again (and so it ought to be destroyed) but a more likely scenario is that the mother will fail to supervise again and next time, that small child could wander out onto the road and be struck by a car. Curiously.. no one demands the child should be removed for its own safety
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http://www.examiner.com.au/news/local/news/general/rocherlea-boy-2-mauled-by-dog/2549381.aspx?src=rss As tempting as it is, I think I'll leave off on comments about poor parenting. I wouldn't leave a two year old child out in the front yard with another person's dog while I showered but.. you know.. everyone parents differently and all that >.> Kudos to the Examiner though for not headlining this story with crap about pit bulls.
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Up until yesterday, we had five. One went to a home, another went to a foster carer and now the house feels really empty I think larger numbers are something something that take a bit of getting used to but once it becomes routine, it's a lot easier than most people would expect.
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Wonder who RehuZ is... it's their first and only post... I think this is the thread you were searching for? A person with a single post, recommending a product. A similar MO to what was seen on the herp forum I linked.. curious.. :p OP, I'd avoid the snakeoil salesfolk and do as the experts suggested- keep the grass short, remove hiding places (stacks of wood, car bodies, tyres, rubbish, etc.) and break the foodchain. Prevention is always better than relying on dodgy cures.
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Before relying on electronic snake repellers, you might want to encourage her to have a read of this.. http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/herp-help-38/solar-snake-repellent-118888/
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He's not a human, why would he be happy with you forcing that on him? I don't want to sound like a bitch here but I think you need some major reality checks- Dog =/= human Vaccinations come with risks. Not vaccinating comes with bigger risks. It sounds like you're blaming the vet for your own choices. Perhaps you'd be better off accepting that you may have made the wrong choices. Buried guilt probably doesn't help when trying to cope with grief.
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This. Not only is it better for the dog (because a home can be matched better if potential adopters know of any issues that might affect suitability) but for the reputation of rescue in general. If I rehome a dog that has previously been through a pet home (such as one of our current fosters, Osti), potential homes are informed of why the dog was surrendered. In Osti's case, she just has bad recall, not all that surprising, for a greyhound- but in cases of aggression and the like, I find it disturbing that new owners would not be fully informed. I have no idea who the group in question is but if they are a big and reputable group, they should know better
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That was the first thing I saw, too. He looks a bit like the random hunting mixes that pop up even down here, they usually contain greyhound and then bits and pieces of other things, depending on what they're to be used for. His ears looks a little bit too drop and his muzzle is too thick but then, he's not going to be a purebred anyway. Just for comparison.. and then
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Dog Rescue Options In Tasmania
Maddy replied to Allerzeit's topic in Dog Rescue (General Rescue Discussion)
We can do temp care if he's dog-friendly and also temperament assessment if needed. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any rescues, besides the shelters. If he's not cat-friendly, Brightside is likely out of the question so really only leave The Dogs' Home if he can't be behaviour assessed/fostered interstate. The Dogs' Home are pretty good but if he has any issues, they do need to be upfront about it to ensure a potential problem isn't passed on to a new owner. -
What do you mean, exactly? The care of the dogs? This varies from state to state, same with breeding. Disposal may also vary but I'd assume (given there an't many options) that it'd be more or less the same for each state. Here is the Tasmanian version (note that it's the Recommended Standard of Care) http://www.racing.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/71028/Recommended_Standards_APPROVED_23.07.07.pdf Edited to add.. More general rules- http://www.racing.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/42426/Local_Rules_updated_JANUARY_01_2009.pdf
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You'd probably fit the description of a hobby trainer anyway, rather than a trainer who does it as a primary source of income. If more trainers operated as you do, we wouldn't be in the situation we are now- people demanding the sport be banned entirely. It's an unfortunate fact that is has become what it is because of the people involved and ultimately, this may lose everyone the sport and the healthy dogs. I don't hold out much hope that the industry members will realise this before it's too late Typo
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Obviously they aren't literally the only options but they are practically the only options. An industry like the greyhound racing industry operates to make money. This is the basis of the problem but also something that will exist as long as the industry does. The situation is unlikely to change and unless trainers/breeders/owners are forced to restrict numbers or operate with only the animal's welfare in mind, it comes back to options one and two, in the end. Neither option is ideal but one is certainly better than the other. That said.. do I support what this woman did? Lazy at best, damaging to rehoming groups at worst. See previous posts on that particular bit. The overbreeding is really a whole other issue. Rehoming certainly would be easier with less dogs but not all trainers choose to rehome their dogs anyway so dogs will still be destroyed or inappropriately retained. The other issue is maintaining good genetic diversity so that we don't end up with HD, greyhound neuropathy, etc. Personally, I'd like to see it returned to a hobby where trainers are allowed only a very small number of dogs and each one of those dogs must be appropriately planned for. We get to keep our racing-bred greyhounds (which, in my opinion [can't emphasise that bit enough], are a superior dog as far as health is concerned) but without the welfare or overbreeding concerns.
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What it comes down to (this should be obvious but I wouldn't want to assume you'd figure this out ;) ) is that, as it stands, there are excess dogs and not enough homes for them, leaving trainers with three options- humanely euthanise, keep the dog and provide minimal care (in terms of costs) or keep the dog and provide it at least adequate care. The third option is usually out. Owners aren't generally willing to pay to keep dogs that aren't working- this isn't fair or ideal but it's the reality of the situation. This leaves options one and two. Option one is very likely going to be kinder on the dog, simple as that. This is not an excuse, this is making the best possible choice for the welfare of the animal. If I had to choose between a pile of greyhounds being put to sleep or a pile of greyhounds being retained with substandard care/feeding, after what I've seen, I'd pick the green dream for them, every time. This isn't because I'm a heartless bitch but because I've seen that suffering, held it as it died and then had to live with that decision. Your view on things, in my opinion, is incredibly simplistic. The racing industry has a lot to answer for but in the meantime, they're here and we have to do what's best for the dogs that are currently excess to requirements. Working with the industry is the best way to achieve small wins for the dogs that add up to improved quality of life and better welfare practices. Fighting and attacking gets the dogs nothing- and if the dogs aren't benefitting, welfare isn't your concern- that's animal rights and that's a whooooole other story.
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I've found Rescue Remedy works very well. All that alcohol to "preserve" it is most definitely an active ingredient :p (It's also more socially acceptable than carting around a bottle of vodka to deal with stress). Although Bach stuff is more than just water anyway so I guess it doesn't really count. Edited to add.. To answer the OP, I don't believe so. The risk of not using those products far outweighs the risk of using them. Heartworm, parvo, FAD, all horrible and easily preventable. We should consider ourselves very lucky that we can provide our pets with such treatments when people in poorer countries can't even afford such care for themselves, let alone their pets. My own dogs are vacc'd on a three year schedule (although sometimes earlier, if needed for some reason), flea treated monthly and wormed every six weeks. They're both oldies but despite the normal problems associated with aging (creaky joints, etc), they're both happy, healthy dogs for their ages and most people are very surprised when meeting the old man hound to learn how old he actually is.
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I'm fostering a dog at the moment and the previous owner left a heart-felt public message about how much she loved him and how much it saddened her to see such a wonderful dog go, but she just couldn't keep him. What she forgot to mention was the she kept him on a chain, and replaced him literally within a week of surrendering him. These sorts of stories often don't add up, and sometimes I wonder if their owners even realise that they are incongruent (i.e they genuinely believe their own stories, but lack insight). I'll admit I've often wondered that myself and in my opinion (bearing in mind this is just opinion, I have no proof of this), they honestly seem to believe they are doing no wrong. They enjoy the sympathy they get from family and friends on "losing" their "beloved" dog and then get a new one that "doesn't have any issues like the old one did". We have a surrendered pet grey here at the moment that backs that opinion up- a stunning, sweet, perfectly behaved girl- who was surrendered because she didn't have good recall. The reason was ridiculous but the owner seemed genuinely upset to surrender her (so that she could get a more suitable dog).
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This is the bit that really gets my goat. People blaming the rehoming groups and making the public believe that they wanted to save the dog but the mean rehoming group wouldn't take it and now they have to put it to sleep
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I can't speak for the other groups (although I'd assume most would have the same policy) but if a trainer/breeder/owner wants to put a dog on the list, the earlier, the better and there's no limit on how early - one day old pup? No problems. The earlier it gets on the list, the closer to the top it will be during racing which gives it a safety net in the event of an unexpected career-ending injury. If the dog is still racing when its spot comes up on the list, that's not a problem either- the dog stays in that position until it does finish racing. And Polecatty.. I hate to sound condescending here but you have no idea. I've seen plenty of dogs for whom humane euthanasia would have been a mercy. I cared for one last year (which ended in him having to be PTS) and in my opinion, his trainer keeping him on the verge of death constantly was far crueler than what the woman in the OP did. Some things really are worse than death and for greyhounds, just existing in a run, being fed the cheapest food and being kept alive for the sake of being kept alive is probably one of those fates I'd consider "worse". Of course, if you have a suggestion that would make both rescue groups and the racing industry happy, by all means share it Typo
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I'm judging her, and I have every right to judge her. The woman used "GAP is full" as an excuse! What a misleading thing to say . Dishonestly trying to present herself as a person that didn't have the option of putting the dog in the program. She is a miserable low-life that doesn't value dogs unless she can make money from them. Disgusting. That's my judgement and I stand by it. :laugh: I guess she should have said GAP run at full capacity ... Greytmate makes a very valid point. If the dog had been put on the waiting list earlier, the wait at retirement would've been greatly reduced. At worst, the trainer has to feed the dog for an extra month or two if the dog retires sooner than expected. It comes down to a willingness to plan for the animal's future. I used to get trainers doing the opposite all the time- calling me and saying things like "I need this dog gone by Monday" and when they were told other dogs were ahead of theirs on the list (because the trainers of those dogs had made the effort to prepare), they'd often try to lump responsibility back on me, as if I should've known they wanted to surrender a dog on that particular day and held a place for them :rolleyes: I then got put in the position of "If you don't take the dog, it'll be put to sleep and that's your fault". If you take the dog, trainers who have been waiting complain (and rightly so), if you don't take the dog, the trainer in question complains and either way, the rehoming group has to deal with the consequences of other peoples' laziness. Filling out the form takes a couple of minutes- it disgusts me that those few minutes often end up being worth more to them than the dog's life. I have very little patience for the people who cannot be bothered with planning. In my opinion, if you can't spare that time, you shouldn't have responsibility for animals. The trainer mentioned in the OP gets no sympathy from me, I'm afraid.