poodlefan

Not all vaccine regimes require the third (16 week) dose. Howie got 6 weeks, 12 weeks and his one year booster. He'll be titred from here on in.

I'd be heading to your regular vet at a rate of knots! Who did the desexing?

Hi ILDD If you bring your puppy to the shows on the October long weekend I'm sure I'll be able to help you.

Shonkypaws and I are nearly ready to launch it. Won't be long now.

I can tell exactly the same story with an English Springer Spaniel the victim of the tragedy. Sad for all concerned that they have to learn this lesson the hard way when the advice not to do this is readily available. The only safe place for an offlead dog around a moving car is IN one.

Does the Russian supermodel know about this?? Yes, she does. Gossip gets around. She just shrugged - so many more fish in the sea. Quite a few TALLER ones too.

Howie and I got Bullmastiffed at Ganmain show. We've nearly dried out from the drool

I have never owned a bull breed. I will never own a bull breed. I can admire them but they are not for me. Fighting BSL needs to be a lot more than bullbreed owners defending their right to own a dog. Its about ensuring community safety by eliminating breed stereotyping that simply isn't accurate. We all think we own the best breeds in the world. We all need to unite to ensure that responsible dog owners aren't penalised in their breed choices by dickheads who shouldn't own a pet rock.

Nope. I have poodles and a Whippet.

Nah that's Deshonko. We've just come up with the 'must have' oodle for this year. Its a hypoallergenic bull breed I'm working on a blue one now. Text or email your orders and credit card numbers and I''ll guarantee delivery before Xmas. Ta daaaa!!!

Who's 'poodilfan'? Do you mean 'poodlefan' - who I don't think deserves the small-minded tag btw - or maybe 'poodiful1'?? Edited: "snap" pf Or maybe Poodlifan is a new hybrid poster?

Do ya mean Poodiful1 or moi?

WARNING - *Off Topic* What do your lines go back to Oakway. I've got a double up on Khabaray Hugo Boss (lots of Hillsdown/Nevedith there) and I'm told that line is very late developing. It sure seems to be the case.

No "hybrid vigour"

Too late. It's been done more than once and behaviourists are dealing with the inevitable outcome. The pup I know of was a resource guarder with a low bite threshold and low bite inhibition in a family of young children. Its' littermate is with an older family. It displays high levels of territorial aggression. Who'd have thought that might happen.

Then breeds like rotties, GSDs, dobes, LGDs such as maremmas would feautre in the news more often wouldn't they? Just so you know, dog fighting breeds were actually selected for LOW human aggression as they had to be pulled out of fights and handled a lot when they were patched up. I have a friend who's an animal behaviorist who says LSGs like Mareemas have about the highest bite threshold its possible to breed into a dog. Sorry what does that mean A dog's bite threshold is the point at which it can be triggered to bite. It takes a hell of a lot to get an LGD to bite.. but when they do (hopefully Lilli will confirm) my understanding is that they don't have much bite inhibition (ie they bite HARD) Contrast this with a gundog that has a low bite threshold (will mouth readily) but tends to have very high bite inhibition (they don't tend to bite hard). Now enter a dickhead puppy farmer who decides to cross these breeds. One potential result is a pup with a very low bite inhibiton (hard biter) and a very low bite threshold (bites readily). Potential problems anyone?

Yes, that's a given. However its size and strength that determine only how potentially harmful a dog can be. Based on those facts, no Irish Wolfhound would ever leave its yard unmuzzled. And yet there is a dog that's got a very low level of recorded aggression. Potential needs environment and experience to be realised. That's where the human factors come in.

Then breeds like rotties, GSDs, dobes, LGDs such as maremmas would feautre in the news more often wouldn't they? Just so you know, dog fighting breeds were actually selected for LOW human aggression as they had to be pulled out of fights and handled a lot when they were patched up. I have a friend who's an animal behaviorist who says LGDs like Mareemas have about the highest bite threshold its possible to breed into a dog.

Please explain how me disagreeing with your statements is now "bullying". How tiresome that accusation is becoming on this forum when people seek to distance themselves from their failing arguments. :D I would remind you I'm not the one who suggested that another poster's vocabulary was lacking. Personal attack anyone? I can only recommend that you read the studies, read the bite stats and do your own homework. There isn't a case on record of breed specific legislation reducing the incidence of dog attacks in a community. I commend to you the study on the impact of owner education in reducing attacks in Calgary in Canada. There is plenty of hard evidence about that on the net. None of this is rhetoric. The evidence is there for all to see. Perception is NOT reality when it comes to breeds and the danger they represent. I'm sorry but there is simply no evidence I can find to support the efficacy of breed bans. If you can come up with some, please post it. I'm over it sorry. Like I said, you can't convince me that some breeds are not more dangerous than others. I'm so sick of hearing news stories of attacks and you people always going in defence mode with your " It's the breed not the deed" Sick to death of it. Fine. Don't listen to me. Let Google be your friend and do your own research. That's how I came to hold the position I do. ETA: Here's a linky that does a lovely comparison of a BSL vs educative approach to dog attacks. It includes the Calgary model. I argue about this issue because the media beat up that some breeds are inherently dangerous leads families to conclude that some breeds are inherently safe. That latter conclusion leads to maimed children and dead dogs. Sue me for giving a damn.

For pity's sake.. please explain how me disagreeing with your statements is now "bullying". How tiresome that accusation is becoming on this forum when people seek to distance themselves from their failing arguments. I would remind you I'm not the one who suggested that another poster's vocabulary was lacking. Personal attack anyone? I can only recommend that you read the studies, read the bite stats and do your own homework. There isn't a case on record of breed specific legislation reducing the incidence of dog attacks in a community. I commend to you the study on the impact of owner education in reducing attacks in Calgary in Canada. There is plenty of hard evidence about that on the net. None of this is rhetoric. The evidence is there for all to see. If you want an Oz example, ponder how the the incidence of the dog attacks in the closest NSW shire to me has RISEN (no, that's not a typo folks) since the introduction of BSL in that state. Perception is NOT reality when it comes to breeds and the danger they represent. I'm sorry but there is simply no evidence I can find to support the efficacy of breed bans. If you can come up with some, please post it.

Thanks but I know what it means: Where is your hard evidence for this categorisation of "dangerous breeds" You've lumped a whole bunch of dogs into the categorisation of "dangerous" without a shred of hard evidence that they deserve the label. That, my dear, is case book speculation. The number one breed for bites in THIS country (based on victim reports) is a HERDING BREED. I suggest you worry less about my vocabulary and more about finding some actual basis in fact for your comments. Please don't seriously suggest that any breed identification in newspaper report of an attack is likely to have any basis in fact. I wish you could understand that breed is no reliable indicator of danger and equally no indicator of safety when it comes to human aggression.

There's no such thing as a "dangerous breed". By that definition, any breed larger than about 15kg would be "dangerous". My friend's 10kg Miniature Poodle put 20 stitches in her arm. If he'd hit a vein or artery that attack might well have been fatal. You're comment is a speculation Yes, it is. Your comment about breeds that "have the ability" to inflict fatal injury is speculative catergorisation also. You're labelling dogs based on potential, not bite history. How speculative is that? You'd have dogs labelled dangerous based on no attack history whatsoever. It may interest you to know that the number one dog for bites in Canada is a gundog. Shall we add Golden Retrievers to the "dangerous dogs" list now? You're categorising dogs based not on what they HAVE done but what they MIGHT be capable of. That Miniature Poodle could have killed my friend. He sure made a mess of her arm. Unlike so many dogs you'd like to see labelled dangerous, that dog had actually inflicted harm. A fierce resource guarder with very little bite inhibition can do that when a person impulsively tries to take a stolen bone. His breed had bugger all to do with it.

What sort of organic food are we talking about?? Kibble or chilled foods?? I'd be interested in a decent Ozmade premium organic kibble. It wouldn't be cheap to produce but I'd pay for it. How can you be 100% sure that you would be getting exactly what you are paying for? I wouldnt be so sure given that the pet food industry has no regulating body keeping an eye on things, they're pretty much their own boss and can get away with bullshit. I couldn't be. . That's why checking out bona fides is important. If you think a regulating body is a magic bullet for quality think again. There are any number of scandals in sectors subject to regulation. Pan Pharmaceuticals anyone?

Hope its nothing serious and you get the all clear for the Royal.