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such a lovely tribute for a gorgeous girl! So sorry for your loss Barb & Family xxx
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What a heartbreaking and beautiful tribute to your darling shadow 'Tara'. I am so sorry for your loss. xxx
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I am sorry, but that statement is ill informed and very untrue! Could you back this statement up with some facts please! I myself have had pig dogs most of my nearly 50 years and have alot of acquaintances and family members that have had pig dogs grow up with their children, and amazingly not one of us have had any experiences where these dogs have mistook a child for a pig??? As with any dog it comes down to RESPONSIBLE OWNERS. That is where the buck stops. Oh and my opinion on this heartbreaking story. I would have the dogs put down, regardless of breed, blame or circumstances! There is NEVER an excuse for a dog to viciously attack anyone!
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If you are going to ask for assistance, it's a good idea to give the actual facts. I know this breeder and have been privy to interaction between the two of you. Firstly, the puppy murmur was diagnosed as 'probably innocent' - details you left out. Secondly, The breeder asked you to contact her if you had any queries or qualms when she provided you with the health certificate. When you contacted the breeder, three days later, you made if very clear that you wished to take delivery of the puppy and only wanted reassurance that the breeder would be there if the puppy's murmur had not completely disappeared. You expressed to the breeder that you were completely happy with the discussion. You also told her you wish you had contacted her in the first place instead of worrying about it all weekend. You were asked by the breeder to contact her again if you had a dose of the doubts or needed any clarification. This was a very calm, chatty, receptive conversation, as witnessed by a third party, it so happens. At no time did the breeder insist or demand that you take the puppy on time, nor did she demand final payment. At no time did you raise any form of delay in taking the puppy, in fact you insisted that you wanted to take delivery of the puppy. Two days after this, the breeder was advised by her vet that your vet had contacted her. You did not afford the breeder any form of common decency of contacting her, not even to advise that you still had some doubts and were intending to have your vet contact mine. The breeder readily gave her vet permission to contact yours. That evening, the breeder contacted you again, advising that she had been advised in regard to the vet contact and asking whether you had heard back from your vet, whether you still had any doubts or wished to discuss anything with her. You insisted no, that the vet contact was only as a result of a casual conversation with your vet while having your other dog innoculated. You said you had not yet heard back and had forgotten all about it. You insisted that you were fine with everything and all was well. The next day, you sent an email severing the purchase agreement and demanded your refund back. The breeder - again in a state of confusion about your duplicity, contacted her vet and ascertained that she had come out of surgery to phone your vet as as your vet was busy, she left a message with the receptionist advising what she had noted on the health certificate and also adding that she was 90% sure that the puppy murmur would disappear within the 12 weeks. It was at this point that the breeder replyed to your email exercising her right to retain the deposit by way of compensation. The terms and conditions are CLEARLY indicated on the breeder's website. In an effort to resolve the matter, the breeder has also made extremely reasonable efforts to resolve the matter of the refund while you barraged her with harrassing emails, changing tack with nearly every email and threatening her in the process. Frankly, I believe this breeder is well within her rights to retain the deposit when the facts are known. She has been communicative, understanding, receptive, resolving and honest. If that is the case then the breeder needs to understand that a potential health issue is quite a large thing for a prospective owner to wrap their heads around and what she sees as the buyers being "duplicitous" could merely be them trying to be polite and not cause a scene to her face whilst privately freaking out at the situation. After processing it they have concluded that they do not wish to take on this pup and the breeder, irregardless of the purchasers actions, should be ethically bound to refund. I do not believe that this breeder has any rights to retain the deposit when the whole issue is surrounding the possible ill health of a pup. Whether the potential purchasers are acting badly or not, it does not give the breeder the right to behave poorly in return. The breeder should , in my opinion, take the higher road, refund the money and wash her/his hands of the situation that is clearly angst driven on both sides and have done with it. The breeder has acknowledge to the family that a puppy murmur can be very scary to anyone who hasn't had the experience of them, as with the breeder and her vet - this was acknowledge when providing the health certificate in the first place. Please note that the breeder conducted herself in a manner to communicate, calmly and receptively and in an understanding manner with the family and was indeed ready to not only work out details that suited both parties, but stated that she would rather not provide a puppy if there were doubts - it was the family insistance they wanted to take delivery that set the direction of the discussion. If you had, as I have, viewed the correspondence between the parties you may have more understanding of why the off by the breeder to refund if the murmur continues is a very fair one. Frankly the harrassment she received and responded calmly to would have had other repercussions for the family if dealing with anyone else. Not only does she deserve compensation for what she has had to endure, but also a medal. Personally I think the breeder needs to give the puppy purchasers their money back. Surely it would be less trouble to do so, then to fight over semantics. By not giving the refund they are only prolonging the stress they are going through. Easy Give refund, sell puppy on to someone else, no more harrassing emails, no more stress! Seems an easy solution to me! edited to add. By selling puppy to someone else,I mean as long as the puppy is cleared of heart murmur or sold disclosing this fact.
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How Much Does Your Vet Charge For Linctol
Bow Wow replied to Bow Wow's topic in General Dog Discussion
Yeap same one. I saw that as well. That is some mark up! -
How Much Does Your Vet Charge For Linctol
Bow Wow replied to Bow Wow's topic in General Dog Discussion
I have just rang my vet to ask how much for a full bottle and its $46.00 so yeah, the price seems to be right. Wow very expensive cough medicine. -
I have just come home from the vets and $326 later I sat down to study the bill. They have given me half a bottle of Linctol at a cost of $28.28. This seems very expensive for half a bottle of cough mixture. Is this right or have they charged me for a full bottle?
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Georgea with Santa Lily with Santa
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So heartbreaking to read the outcome I am so sorry xxx
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I am so sorry staffluv ollie was truely an inspiration.
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what a darling little face
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Thank you, that is very good to hear! We have Teasle, who we're calling "Molly" home with us. She seemed really attached to her owner so the question is if she'll be happy with us. We all adore her, except for our cat, I think she's a bit miffed at the moment, but Molly isn't giving her a hard time. Cavs are very loving dogs, and only want to please you, so I have found they are very easy to train. Would love to see updated photos of 'Molly' :D
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I will be different and say that my two live with a cockateil :D DJ the cockatiel does not live in a cage and roams freely with the dogs. He thinks he is a dog! was not hard at all to train them. They will chase birds outside still. They just know the difference between dj and wild birds. I even bring my mothers cockatiel home to mind and the dogs seem to understand the difference with her too and they dont bother her. So just to let you know it can be done :D
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Good luck!!!! She is divine :love:
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so sorry for your loss
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I too have only just seen this. I am so sorry for your heartbreaking loss Please accept my condolences
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Thats ok, was the first thing I got the vet to check. I am always on alert incase I hear that heart murmur cough. I know it distinctly because of Bow wow, she has a severe murmur. I am still thinking it was something in her throat. But will give the anti biotics anyway, as she did have a very mild temp. 39.4 when normal is 39.1.
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I am a little doubtful that Georgea has Kennel Cough. She has not coughed since early yesterday morning, before taking her to the vet. I rang the vet up this morning to ask them, and the vet nurse, said that it was because of the medication that she is taking that is making her better. But, she has not coughed, had any nose discharge, nothing.??????? I am pretty sure that she had something caught in her throat. Totally weird!!! The medication she is taking is Vibravet. She has only had two doses. I think I will research some more on Kennel Cough and Vibravet, it is not sitting right with me.
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Thanks everyone I was looking for a young adult female tri , as company for Georgea. Did not particularly want to go through the puppy stage so soon! Especially in winter : O But as soon as I seen Miss Lily well it was love at first sight!! Her breeder lives very close to me : D She has fantastic lines. All boxes were ticked. I can not believe how grown up Georgea looks compared to Miss Liiy! Georgea and Miss Lily love each other dearly ( though I don't think Georgea is liking having a little sister who is chewing all toys and snatches them from her mouth : ) ) I am VERY happy. Bow wow is slowly accepting her but is very much the strict grandma. Lol
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Some people did not know that I purchased another Cavy :D Introducing " Miss Lily " 16 week old, Tri coloured.