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Me and Tia will be there.

Yep the judge, who surname starts with "H" touched his face, as I saw Moses eyes going chinese. I also saw a judge pushing down on dogs backs also in CCD. This was right at the start when the new rules came in. Also consider if a judge has been judging a higher class then goes to CCD, they could be likely to forget that they are judging a CCD dog and do the same type of exam. In Novice the exam was less thorough. Will have view the videos again of Moses doing CCD and Novice and have a look. You can see the videos on my web page, just scroll to the obedience section. You always want your to be better than standard. So if says stand for exam say from 2 metres away then train 4 metres, practice a more thorough exam. If it is a one minute sit stay practice at least 1 min 30 seconds.

With stand for exam I read Morgan Spector's book and I think he said have the dog in a stand stay at your side for at least 30 seconds, before even moving away. I would want a really stable stand, so the dog can stand whilst I walk around in a circle. With Moses I struggled at the start, and would reward him as someone walked past, then I slowly worked up to the first just barely touching him. I think at one stage I also just c/t Moses if someone walked near him and then backed away without him moving. Another technique once you have a good stand is to stand in front of the dog and feed the dog whilst he is being examined. Josh my flatcoat was hilarious during stand for exam he would wag his tail so hard that his hips were moving but his feet would stay on the ground. During the training stage he would do a happy dance, all feet moving independantly but he would not go to move anywhere but on the spot. In a CCD trial, the judge was putting his hands on Moses face so that Moses eyes were pulled slightly back, he looked chinese. Some judges were going over the dogs twice. So if you are going to trial work up to a really thorough examination.

Fantastic, love the retrieve, biggest dumbell I have even seen LOL. The about turns were so fast could hardly see them. The only thing I didn't like in the heeling the dogs front legs kept coming off the ground in an unatural gait. But the whole lot was fantastic love the drive and the applause she got!!!! Would love to know her training secrets.

I actually thought Tia was dominant dog, because in the morning when I fed the dogs she would charge into the wrong bowl and the dog would just step back and let her eat, but today when the bones were out Josh let her know that he was boss.

Here is Tia at step 1.

Here is a video of Tia doing step 1 of a swimmers turn, just curious do the dogs in Springloaded and other teams in the USA wear flyball harnesses?

Tia's waiting for Josh to get up so she can try and start herding them. Moses can get really vocal, people think they are fighting but you just have to look at the tails. Josh is more than happy to be on the bottom.

The flattie on the bottom is boss!!! Turn up the volume for vocalisation of Moses (the gold one) Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retreiver.

Who do you think is boss, only answer if you don't know the answer before viewing the video. Moses is the vocal one. I have just put the answer further down.

Did you video it? I am taking Tia for another herding lesson soon.

Leo puppy, how many passes do you need now for CCD with Leo? I trained Moses to do everything I could think of before entering CCD. He already knew out of sight stays, scent discrimination, broad jump and seek back, retrieve over jump (flyball) and with a dumbell. Wanted him not to get bored with the same old.

I just feed mine my left over shells without being crushed and eventually one of them eats them including the puppy.

Barking drives me crazy. I can tell that I will have to put a lot of work into Tia, to stop this. Whilst herding she got a bit over excited and let a yip go. When she tries to herd Josh a yip will go now and then. Josh and Moses hardly bark at all, even at flyball. But Moses did let out something that sounded similar to a Toller scream last Monday when he thought a dog was going to hump him.

I don't belong to that club, just did the trial. His CCD comp and the Kintala comp are much better. He is more focused on our home ground at the Kintala club.

I loved the book and thought it was fantastic!!! Buzz was very high drive, and you can also read about all the work she put in. I have found borders to be much more anxious and uptight then gundogs.

Love his enthusiam, the link for the broad jump is the same link that you put for the retrieve. Love that wagging tail.

Thats hilarious about the limpness. Moses loves to work for toys and is obsessed with squeaky toys. Huge attention span.

Tia is a surbanite that helps me put the chooks into their pen occasionally. LOL

Warrigal obedience dog club give lessons. $45.00 a year, I have also gone to a lady in Drouin, $20 a lesson. The Australian Shepherd dog club have several training days through out the year, $20.00 they are held at KCC park.

My bad habit with Moses is looking at him, because I always want to c/t when he is in the right position. But I forced myself during my first CCD trial not to look at him. I did a ring run throughs at Croydon and they were great. They would pick at me too bits and then apologise, I just said "thats what I am here for", they fixed up my figure 8's as I was going too wide, I also had the habit of walking into the dog. The amount of times they got me to go back to the start post. LOL They are all experienced triallers. They also picked at my foot work or lack of. Which was great. They even held the dog while I practiced. It took me a while to get the foot work right without thinking about it. I use the same foot work with Tia and she will often do a auto sit without signal but by just following my footwork. With Moses the first couple of years of his life all work is done off lead, that hows they train where I go. So it was very hard to work with a lead, but I forced myself to do it, so I knew what to do with the lead. I also changed my left turns to the one that you don't have to juggle the lead as much. I also practiced walking in a straight line, using the lines in my driveway. They also suggested lines painted at car parks. I probably would have my hands dangling down but have them up, so he knows the difference between going for a walk and obedience. They do run throughs at KCC park.

I have entered 6 obedience trials with Moses and in that time I only saw one other toller trialling in obedience at the same trial I was at. That was the trial restricted to gundogs. LOL Ness, how did you find working with the toller? Moses works incredibly fast. I have found him 100 times smart than my border. The difference between the toller vs border, at this stage!!! She is only 5 months old. Toller - more food motivated, wants to work, more clicker savvy, greater attention span, will do quite a few reps, more anticipation. Border Collie - more tug motivated, only will do a couple of reps, respods quite well to verbal better than the toller, greater memory for rembering things that hasn't practiced in quite a while, more anxious, This could all change on the border collie side of things as we go along.

BC do you have any more of your toller in obedience? Loved watching the toller work, as I don't see many working in obedience.

I went to puppy class at Croydon today. Very impressed they have changed heaps since 3 years ago. They talked about 3 different methods of teaching loose lead walking.

I also use the flyball jumps to teach directed jumping, retrieve over a jump and last night working on him going backwards over 2 jumps. So are so easy to put out and set up.