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Hi All, I'm on a French Bulldog forum and was advised there not to feed Gus Barf patties with his kibble. He's currently on cooked chicken mince and Royal Canin but I'd like to start moving him onto Barf. I like to keep giving him a small amount of Royal Canin each day too. Apparently raw and dry foods are digested differently so shouldn't be served at the same time.... or something like that? Can anyone shed any light on this for me please? Thanks Vicki

I didn't know most people only do the two vaccinations. I thought they needed three before they were fully covered? Now I'm even more confused.

It is in my area. It's particularly in my area. I'm in the Western Suburbs of Melbourne and apparently that's one of the worst places for parvo. Less people vaccinating their dogs over this side of town or something like that.

That's where he's enrolled. At Diggers Rest. He's already been once (missed last week because of his upset tummy) but because of the vet's comments today, I'm hesitant to take him back until he's fully vaccinated. I just don't know if I want to risk it. It's awful not knowing what the right thing to do is and so far, no amount of reading on the forum has convinced me either way of what's best for him.

Are you sure? I read a couple of vet. medical books on parvo, and the information in both of them was that parvo is not airbourne. Has research revealed that it is? Well flies and other insects are airborne and parvo can certainly travel on the feet of flies. This really worries me. I mean, if flies can carry it then nowhere's safe is it? I was just reading another post by someone who lost their puppy to parvo on Xmas Eve. The pup had never even left the back yard.

I got him when he was 10 weeks, 4 days old. Actually, he loved the Vic Markets. Lots of different people wanted to pat and hold him and he enjoyed every minute of it. He was relaxed and confident and wasn't at all stressed by any of it. I don't regret taking him there. I think it was a wonderful experience for him. He probably WAS lucky only to get gastro (although I'm pretty sure that was my fault), but I felt the risks I took were calculated. I had done a lot of research and received much advice about the pros and cons of socialising a pup when they've only had 2 vaccinations. I decided to take the risk to ensure I have a well socialised dog. With that said, I did consider carefully where I took him and avoided places that I felt presented an unacceptable level of risk to him.

I suppose I'm worried about pre-school because it's in a paddock. It's private land and apparently no unvaccinated dogs go on it (although i'm not sure how they can guarantee this) so is supposedly safe. I'm in the Western suburbs and it's apparently really bad over here. Seeing as he had so much socialisation up to 12 weeks of age and he's now in his first fear period, I doubt it will do him any harm to keep him home for a couple of weeks.

Hi All, I've just come back from the vet where I was buying some Scourban for Gus (just to have in the cupboard) and was given a very stern warning about Parvo being rife in Melbourne at the moment. Gus is going to be 14 weeks old on Tuesday and is due for his third vax in a couple of weeks time. I had planned on taking him into the city with me on Monday to have lunch with a friend but was told I shouldn't risk it by the vet. He's also got his puppy pre-school at 4Paws in Diggers Rest tomorrow morning which I'm now in two minds about taking him to until he's had his third vax. I just spoke to Trish from 4Paws and she said it would be safe but I'm just not sure if I want to take the risk now... especially if parvo is really prevalent at the moment. Apparently all the rain and hot weather we've had has brought it out of the soil. I'm really in two minds about taking him back until after his 3rd vax but also don't want him to miss out on the socialisation. The vet also made me really worried about all the risks I've taken with him already! Knowing how important socialisation is between 8 and 12 weeks, we've visited all sorts of friends and family with other dogs (all healthy, vaccinated dogs... but still) and cats, we've gone for 10-15 minute walks around the block, we've been to the shops and we even went to the Vic Markets for a couple of hours. We also took him away to Harrietville with us for two nights and did short walks around town. I mean, if he was going to catch parvo, surely he would have by now.. or have I just been very, very lucky? With that said, he had gastro (they tested for parvo) about a week and a half ago which landed him in the Werribee Vet Hospital over night on a drip so I know how scary it is to have a sick puppy and I don't ever want to be in that position again. What would you guys do? Thanks :rolleyes: Vicki This is the little man...

Good idea. Thanks settrlvr.

Hi all, I've got a 13 week old puppy that's currently being fed 150 grams of cooked chicken mince a day, along with 70 grams of Royal Canin split into three meals. I want to transition him over to BARF patties and need some advice about the best way to go about it. I was thinking of intially substituting his lunch portion of cooked chicken mince (50 grams) with 50 grams of a BARF pattie. I thought I'd keep him on that for maybe a week and then substitute another meal's portion of chicken with pattie. Does that sound like a reasonable way to go about things? Thanks for your help.

Just watch her. If she's lethargic then get her straight to the vet. I had a puppy with gastro a week ago that was fine in the morning and in hospital that night on a drip because he got dehydrated so quickly. It can happen really fast. Just keep an eye on her.

Name: Gus Sex: Male DOB: 2/10/07 Age: 13 weeks, 2 days Colour: Brindle Breed: French Bulldog Loves: Sleeping, playing with one of his three duck toys, chewing sticks, pulling the heads off daisies. Hates: Nothing so far. He's a gem.

Just a quick update about Gus's crate training. He was wonderful. Went pretty much straight into his crate within the first couple of hours of being home. He didn't mind one bit being in there and still knows it means sleep time. Up until the last couple of nights, I'd been getting up with him for a toilet break around 3am or 4am. Last night, he slept through until 6am so things are improving. It's been much easier than I expected. He never cried to be let out but would sit up and be sort of restless... so I knew he was uncomfortable. I'd never crate trained before but I'm a convert now. Oh, and he's never once gone to the toilet in his crate and at nearly 13 weeks old (on Tuesday) is about 90% toilet trained. Here a pic from him from yesterday. He was recovering from a bout of gastro which is why he's looking a bit sorry for himself.

Hi Janba. I've got a crate large enough for him when he's fully grown and yep, I've partitioned off about a third of it. I suppose my concern is, how do I recognise a cry for attention as opposed to a cry to go to the toilet? I'll still be getting to know him those first few nights. Hi Poodlefan. The crate will be in the kitchen and I'm planning to sleep on the couch in the loungeroom (next to the kitchen) for the first few nights while I'm getting to know him, his sounds and his needs, etc. Yeah, see that's my concern with a Frenchie. They're not particularly vocal (well, some certainly are with their death yodel) but most are very quiet dogs. How often would you get up for an 11 week old? I don't want to be waking him up any more than necessary. ;)

Hi everyone, I'm FINALLY getting my puppy this Saturday. Meet Gus (he'll be 11 weeks old when I get him): Now, even though I've read about crate training to within an inch of my life, I'm still slightly confused... believe it or not. Gus will be in his crate during the night so do I take him out of his crate (possibly waking him in the process) every 3 hours or so to take him outside to the toilet, or do I wait until he cries to let me know that he needs to go? My concern with waiting until he cries is that I'll just be reinforcing that behaviour if I then let him out. That's not really what I want... is it? The thing is waking him up every few hours to take him outside doesn't seem ideal either! What did you guys do? Ta Vic

Hi Newnewf, I've been following this thread with interest and just wanted to pop in and wish you luck in Melbourne. Do come back and let us know how you went. :D

Hi Cazxxz, 4Paws Pet Supplies in Keilor Park sell BARF Patties.

Hi newnewf, I don't really have any advice for you (I'm sure someone will be on soon to give you some though) but I just wanted to say how absolutely gorgeous Turtle is. I remember the photos of him when you first got him.. and MY GOODNESS THEY GROW FAST!! He's absoultely gorgeous. One big, beautiful slobber dog. :p My Aunty had a Newfie years ago called Mitty. He was the most loving dog in the world. EFS

Tapferhund, I think you've got Rachelle confused with the OP. In regards to the topic, I agree with Erny.

I've always thought that no attention at all (eg, no touching, eye contact, nothing) and turning your back on them would soon get through. I think consistency with the entire family is important for this to work though.

Are you sure that this correct? I was under the impression that no hormones are fed to livestock in Australia. Yeah, you could be right. I'm certainly not an expert on the subject. I remember seeing a show on genetically modified food for livestock... which may well have only been in the US. Appologies if I've got it wrong (heheh, it's happened before!).

Not 100% right. Organic also means that the grains fed to the beef/chicken/whatever had no hormones added to it. Those hormones end up in the meat and the jury's still out on what those hormones do to humans (and therefore, dogs).

Hi Disorder, just going through some old threads and found this one. How did it all work out for the Snotster?

I agree. It's the children's fault completely. Firstly, they shouldn't be behaving like children (what ARE they thinking) and playing or anything quite so stupid as that and secondly, well they really just should grow up! I also agree Frank that if you didn't have the kids (and hey, they're still pretty young, they'd probably fit in nicely in some other home if you wanted to get rid of them) that this dog (and all dogs for that matter) should be played with really roughly. It's character building and makes them loving family pets. Yep, you not only sound like an ideal father (looking out for his kids best interests and all) but a perfect dog owner too. You should be proud of yourself.

Isn't this the same dog that was attacking your daughter not long ago? If you're not willing to heed the advice of anyone on this forum then why post the question? Do you want people to sympathise with you when you're not willing to do anything to rectify the situation?