joelle

Woow poor pup. I hope he will be ok?

Do you want a dog training in general or one on one? I owuld ring the canine association, they have a few groups there through various nights of the week. Im not familiar with any dog behaviouralists if thats what your after. I just realised you ve got a new pup so im assumng it wont be a behaviouralist yet I hope Ring round local councils for puppy preschools. A good starting point. What area are you in. Cosmolo--------Kathy Koppelis Mcleod - is she north or south do you know?

Hi and thank you . We start obedience this Saturday with him (good timing). My boys do feed and train both my dogs and teach tricks and we do use NILIF principle, but I am thinking I have concentrated slightly more on Ellie because of her size in comparison to the kids (she is 40 kgs, my sons are 35 and 21 kgs! She is as gentle as a lamb with them so we have obviously doen it right I realise that I need to step it up for Jake too. Eg sometimes I will feed Jake or not make him work for dinner if am a bit lax or have only enough time fro theboys to do one dog......I know, I know. As of today my 10 yr old "sees" to Ellie and my 5 yr old "sees" to Jake so hopefully I wont have a repeat of last night. It was the other way round until today. "sees" = making dog do tricks, wait, use manners, whatever.... before they give the food.

Good question. any suggestions? I d be interested too. Not just a young pup, what about an older pup too, 18 months old? Is this a lost cause?

I fully agree, but what concerned us is that the pierced arm came after he was woken (granted, it was like 5 seconds after he woke but, the initial first one scratched his face but not pierced) I will def be teaching him more about "let sleeping dogs lie", that is the exact quote I used on him I sincerely hope you and I are right, and its not an aggression prob. As I said, there has been NO incidences of aggression before. I can train a 5 yr old I think I think he is that used to Ellie, he acted impulsively and Jake being young was scared and possibly threatened.

As you know, Jake is my JRT 17 weeks old. He has been to puppy socialisation class. He goes to agility with my 10 yr old son. He has been vey well socialised and seems to take everything in his stride, very relaxed little JRT really. He is generally very well behaved. he DOES play rough with Ellie but he has to as she is 40 kgs. This play is ALWAYS supervised and stopped by myself if I think he is getting a bit rough. Ellie just acts dopey with him but because of her size I think he feels he has to step up to the mark, hence the 100% supervision. IN the last 2 days I have noticed him jumping up on my 5 yr old sons trousers and pulling / tugging as if to instigate rough play. I have been telling my boy to stand still then I have got Jake off him and put in time out. Anyhow, tonight, he was asleep on the cushion (Jake) and my 5 yr old son bent down (suddenly) to say goodnight to him. It was quick as as flash (we were sitting there) and Jake jumped and bit him. He scratched my boys face (with teeth) then jumped again and actually pierced the skin on the arm I dont think he even growled it was so quick. I understand that my boy shouldnt have jumped down and have very sternly spoken to him about that and will keep an even CLOSER eye on that in future. SHould I be concerned about Jakes temperament or was it a fright response combined with (what I think) a dominance issue over the youngest in the family. I know it is hard for you to monitor his temperament without actually seeing him, but Jake has never showed signs of aggression before and goes everywhere with us and the boys so is very used to kids. If it is a dominance stand off between him and our 5 yr old, I can handle that, Ellie was the same and we got him to feed her and used NILIF for her and will do it MORE now with Jake. He is an active 5 yr old so does he just rile dogs the wrong way???? We supervise and teach him how to handle / approach the dogs but maybe he needs a bit more from us. WHen I have put Jake in time out for pulling trouser legs, maybe my son should have done that? Have I given the message that he needs protecting from Jake?? Therefore putting Jake above him in the pack?? Please help any suggestions/ ideas?

Hi all :rolleyes: Some mornings when Ellie wakes up, she has gunk in her eyes. its almost like the 'sleep' that humans get. Is it a problem? Does anyone else have this? Is there any way of 'fixing' it. If its not harmful I dont mind cleaning her eyes just concerned if it is normal or not. PS she usually sleeps outside but has been in the last few weeks due to the weather, it doesnt seem to matter whether she is in or out, she still gets it. She is a very heavy sleeper and quite often can be heard happily snoring through the night but Im sure this isnt the cause. Any suggestions? Advice?

One more just to show you my best side .lots of luv and kisses, Jake

Clever girl I dont think she is too young to learn the ricks, my dogs both learned cool tricks at a young age. If nothing else, it helps to build a rapport between you and dogs, but also teaches them to work for their dinner ;) Keeps their brain working too

Enzo is so gorgeous and sugar n spice....what a doll.......so cheeky. Heres my contribution Name ..........Jake breed.......... Jack Russell age............. 17 weeks (born New years Eve 07 ) colour ...........white and tan hobbies...........jumping out and surprise attacking big sis Ellie then running under dining table where she cant fit , playing with her human brothers who love her dearly, chewing toes, pinching socks n shoes n teddies likes.............. chicken in any shape or form. car rides, walks, sleeping, hiding shoes, pinching pegs, dislikes.......... Ellie using her feet to pin him down He is not getting his ball back, I dont care how cute he is...... OMG WHAT have you done boy, your for it when mum gets you.....hee hee

I feed tucker time with Eukanuba. chicken necks, (supervise initially) rice, tin of sardines now and again :D cooked chicken. varied diet really but mainly the tucker time and Euk mixed and he is growing well with a lovely coat too. ETA Ellie is on a similar diet with chicken carcasses and her coat is lovely and shiny too and she is looking good. If I may say so myself :D

My belief is that the working sheep dogs were fed at night....after work... If they were fed in the morning, it would make them sluggish and not run as well as they may otherwise. As for pets, probably personal preference :D

Im gonna thank you too I have been struggling so thanks . BTW I even use photobucket but couldnt figure how to downsize - and Im not even elderly

Its great fun and a great way to play and bond with pup whilst socialising them too. We also get to see the "big boys and girls" do their competition and its fantastic to watch. My young son does the agility with Jake and we were allowed to join when he was 12 weeks old so its brilliant to watch the two of them forming a lifelong bond whilst they are both still young. He has made a makeshift puppy agility course in the back yard - what fun. ( a sweeping brush to step over, a bike tyre to step through etc etc.) His trainer is great and really encourages him with Jake. They completed puppy kindy together too. SORRY for hijacking thread - Ill go away now - Back to desexing - what does sports have to do with desexing?

correct me if I am wrong but don't you have to wait until 12-18 months before you can start agility? No, he is doing puppy foundation class which is basic learning, bonding, learning that food comes after every step! stepping over logs etc. No REAL physical work because of their young bones etc. Its fun thats all, no competition I dont think

Oh dear....I am planning on doing dog sports...but I am desexing my girl on 10 April...I didn't know they were mutually exclusive What have dog sports got to do with de sexing ? I have Jake booked in for when he is 5 1/2 months old but just plan to take a couple of weeks off agility. I thought that would be ok as at this age he is not doing much work anyhow (physical) is my thinking wrong? He is a small dog (JRT) and we have been quoted $169.50. Ellie was about $250 at about 7 months (immature) and 30 kg . Jake is classed as immature and only weighs 3 kg now so i guess he'll be no more than 5 kg at de sexing yet the cost isnt that much different really What have others cost been for similar weight immature dogs? (ETA jakes breed and cost of op)

Hi all, I wondered if anyone could help? Ellie, (15 months) walks really well to heel when out with me alone. When my children are with me, she cries and barks if they are in front of her. When they fall in beside her or behind her, she struts along happy. It looks to me like she is anxious about wanting to lead them which I believe is a protective thing for her. Obviously, I dont want her to protect them as such because she is supposed to be at the bottom of the pack. In the house, she appears to be, as the boys feed her and train her and she responds well to them. Outside, however, she is displaying behaviour that indicates to me that i may be reading her wrong, is she feeling above them, therefore protecting them. If so, how do I rectify this, other than what i am doing which is :- both kids feed her, make her wait for dinner until they say so, they walk through doors before her, they tell her to get down off couch / bed and she does. They eat before her ( I have even got them to pretend to eat out of her bowl) Theyu spend time reinforcing sit stay etc. they teach her tricks. What am I missing?/ It is just outside the home, ie on walks on leash and off leash at the beach, she appears anxious if they wander too far from me. To others it may seem sweet that she wants to lok after them but for me I want her to know she is bottom of our pack at home and outdoors. PS Ellie is 38 kg. My boys are 5yrs and 10 yrs. So she is huge and heavier than both of them. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks for all the replies guys. I gave him one and he loved it, supervised closely but he managed great. So I guess if he can manage it, any dog could as he is so small!

Sorry. 8 weeks old jack russell, so very small.

I have also put this in the nutrition forum - wasnt sure of the best place to post it. At what age can a puppy have chicken necks? Thanks

Hi, Ive tried a search but couldnt find anything. Now I know theres something on here......hopefully someone can direct me? At what age can a pup have chicken necks?

Mine get bathed every month in the hydrobath. There have been occasions when Ive had to bath them myself, thats ok with little Mollie but Ellie - - - quite a fun task I also have a spray on conditioner / pefume to 'top them up' betwen the baths..........In Summer, I may increase it to 1 x fortnightly if needed.

Sex: Female Date of birth: December 06 Age: 9 months old Colour: dark brindle Breed: NEW BREED DISCOVERED........"avagess" Hobbies: trying to climb on mommys knee, Loves: Pigs ears and toys that make noises Hate: vacuum and shadows 6 WEEKS 7 MONTHS

Thank you all, I have sent ACWA an email. I think she will need the foundationn class, on Tuesdays i think. Do you think it will help to settle her or will she still have a tendency to roam. I know no-one can give a solid answer, but Im hoping the one on one special time with her will assist in a) keeping her brain as active as her body, thus tiring her out b) build upon the bonding we have - we do have a close bond, but I am her 6th owner so Im guessing she has issues with trust, attachment etc Am I on the right track??

Thanks guys. I really dont think she needs vet checked to assess her joints or anything, she is very healthy and can run and jump for ever In fact, the more wide open the space, the better as she can get her speed up, she loves to jump over things , through things , run through water etc etc. I think she will love it. SHe looks like she is skipping half the time