Andisa

If your dogs are escape artists then don't muck around, just buy what you need to keep them in right from the start. Once they figure out a way out they will keep trying. The temp fence panels look ok, but go for the strong weld mesh if the dogs have already proven they will attempt to escape. I got my runs from Ebay and my boy tried to go over the top once so had to block the top off with the kids old trampoline mat - that fixed him. eta: get a fencing contractor to give you a quote on the job - you may be surprised - or not - at the cost for what you want done.

Is he on any medication?

The best dog bed I have bought was from a market - it is 1.5m x 1.2m and it comfortably fits 2 Rotties, but has at times managed to have 3 Rotties (adults) spilling off it. It's filled with memory foam off cuts and is still in great condition after almost 3 years and everyday use. It is the only bed the pups have never destroyed - been pissed on heaps but cover comes off and goes in the washing machine and I somehow manage to wash the bed in the hydrobath and throw it on top of the line to dry out on a hot day. Best $40 I have ever spent of a dog bed and would love to find another one just like it.

d22 - personally I think you did a bloody good job, it would have been a frightening situation. Bad enough getting caught up with a dog attack and your baby in a pram with the dog attached would have been awful. When my kids were small I always attached our old girl to the pram, didn't think anything wrong with it at the time, perhaps we were just very lucky. Hoping your walks are more enjoyable and they find the other dog and the owner is dealt with properly and that Lexi was not injured or suffers any fear because of it.

Maybe he's in Melbourne but his 'friend' is in Sydney? Which friend, Tony or.. what was the other one called... umm.. Tony? Actually I am not sure if he made it into the deleted thread... I only know how to look at a single cached page and so i can't read the next 2 pages to see why it was delted. :0 Yes Anne - pretty sure he had a mention in that thread. He was mentioned, but did he actually take part in it? The thread was started a couple of weeks ago by someone asking if he was for real or if it was a scammer or similar. sorry, my mistake. Since he was in this one so fast if he wasn't involved in the other thread I would bet he knew about it.

Maybe he's in Melbourne but his 'friend' is in Sydney? Which friend, Tony or.. what was the other one called... umm.. Tony? Actually I am not sure if he made it into the deleted thread... I only know how to look at a single cached page and so i can't read the next 2 pages to see why it was delted. :0 Yes Anne - pretty sure he had a mention in that thread.

You can crate train them anywhere - I crate trained Hamish outside in his run, when he first came home he used to toilet in the run because he didn't know any better. We never had kennels then - only metal framed beds because they sleep inside. I set the crate up for Hamish in his run and covered it over and it worked for him. As the nights got cooler I was feeling a bit guilty that he was the only one outside and decided to try him again inside, he was already crate trained outside. So I set up another crate inside. Our house is small but decided to set him up in the kitchen, he is wedged in a small space (for a 42" crate) out of the way, he can see under the table and is right beside the kitchen door. I often leave the crate door open now but when one of the girls are close to come in season he is shut in so he won't mark. He won't if supervised but can't say he won't if not. Must admit having all entire dogs it was a good incentive for Hamish be crate/house trained, the girls never come in season together but one after the other so it can go on for months. This has made life very easy. I have 3 separate runs undercover just out the back door, they are not large runs but they are never in them for extended periods and they never toilet in them. Hamish will mark the runs when a girl is in season which is to be expected - luckily for him he does not do the back door or inside the house. The main reason I don't leave them all running together is to avoid injury - not from fighting but from rough playing. I am sure the neighbours must think they are killing each other when playing, I will leave the girls together because they are mother/daughter and can be trusted. But Hamish and Pink (brother/sister) can get rough so are only together when we are with them. At night they can all be together inside with us, Hamish has the kitchen/dining area and the girls have the back room which is separated by a baby gate. The only time Hamish has gone over it was when a girl was in season so that is when he is crated out of the way. ETA: There was a time when I never had crates or runs and to be honest I never liked the idea or thought I would need them (that was before I understood how good they were) - best investment we have ever made since having several dogs. I work from home so the dogs are rotated throughout the day.

Taradiddle81 - crate training your boy will make house training so much easier, that way he can sleep in a crate inside and Elly can have her nice comfy bed. Honestly crate training is a win - win situation. Once he is able to be trusted in the crate he will be better in the house. He will enjoy being in the crate, you can give him a bone in there and he will be fine. My boy was a dirty bastard when he came back home - he was not house trained, he was an outside dog. Crate training him helped to toilet train him, he only came inside on lead and treated like a baby, short visits inside building up to longer and longer visits until he was able to hold on for as long as necesary. With in a few months this young entire male went from a dirty dog to a bloody fantastic dog to live with. I asked a lovely DOLer to make him a belly band and he only needed it for a couple of weeks. The only time he has marked inside was when one of the girls were in season and he has never done it since. Not bad at all. Can I ask you not to give up on the idea of a separate run for your boy - it will give Elly some time on her own - they do no need to spend every waking moment together and this way she can still enjoy her comforts without him wrecking everything. Put them away before he is let out and she keeps her nice things intact. This will be peace of mind until he is through this destructive stage, your OH will have a chance to relax and once you stop him wrecking things he will appreciate him more. Think you will find he will not be able to resist the couch - personally I think that is a lost cause, some dogs get great pleasure out of gutting a nice comfy couch - plenty of owners in here can vouch for that, I have been lucky, none of mine have been that destructive. A few dog beds, plants and trees, but nothing lost of any real value. Your boy can not tell the difference between the free couch that doesn't matter and your good couch that could mean a rehome - if you allow him to wreck one - he will not think twice about the others. The way I see it is if he does not start behaving himself soon he may not be welcome much longer - crate training is a proven method to house train dogs - Rottweilers are pretty easy to house train from my experience (can't say the same about pugs though) Good luck

Perth girl Breeders are also buyers and we need to go through all the leg work same as you. Yep - no idea how many times I was knocked back when looking for my 1st pug in over 12 months it took to get her and it took me over another 12 months for my 2nd pug - I spent that year getting to know the breeder (interstate), after all I was wanting to let her know that her pup would be well cared for. If the average pet owner knew what most breeders are dealing with when advertising a litter they would have a better understanding why so many breeders are precious where they place their pups. I am in no hurry what so ever for my next Rottweiler litter, just about every breeder will say no matter how many problems that might come up with raising a litter of puppies, by far the hardest part is dealing with potential puppy buyers. No one wants to hear about one of their pups ending up in a puppy farm, BYBers home or a dog dealers home. It is heart breaking to see some very nice lines that find their way in back yarders or dealers homes, this can only happen when breeders are either fools or fooled - not every potential puppy buyer is sincere and it can be very hard sometimes working out who is and who isn't.

Totally agree with this - return the pup - get your money back and move on.

Sharon - I found it you angle the walls and not attach them to the gazebo sides they are much cooler. I don't hook the silver mesh walls to the sides of the gazebo - I hook it on to the gazebo ropes instead which allows a good angle for better air flow. But if you find the mesh with a more open weave they will be cooler than the tighter weave.

I have posted this link to Leerburg milk formula and bottle feeding before and highly recommend this way of feeding the bitch and pups. I have used Wombaroo and a few other brands before - goats milk was far better but the best results I have had so far has been the Leerburg formula. Easily made, sometimes I used less yogurt than they do and still had great results.

You should get Chicken to put Abby on BH Good idea - I will give her some and see how she goes, I am sure Abby will like it - all mine do.

Sherel - I just sent you an email (copied and pasted addy) and it came back to me - was unable to send it for some reason. I called you yesterday - can you please PM me when you get a chance. Thanks. Lisa. Andisa try [email protected] Thanks Ams, think that worked. Cheers

Sherel - I just sent you an email (copied and pasted addy) and it came back to me - was unable to send it for some reason. I called you yesterday - can you please PM me when you get a chance. Thanks. Lisa.

ah the joys of having youngsters. Put away all your nice bedding and replace it with blankets from the opp shops, cheap bedding or carpet off cuts. This could go on for a very long time yet. I agree that you were walking too far for young joints and maybe playing in the yard to wear him out a bit might help. Might be worth investing in a dog run especially while he is destructive so you can keep him and everything else safe when your not home. We were through the destructive stage a long time ago but when Hamish came back home at 15 mths old he must have had too much fun destroying his bedding that his litter sister thought she should give it a go too. I was not impressed. Fingers crossed at 2 years old they are over it. So out with the good bedding and in with carpet. Luckily for me a friend was replacing their carpet and I have heaps stored above the dog runs to keep us going for a while. I removed their kennels over summer and replaced them with metal framed flea free bedding (almost wrecked now too) and will bring the kennels out of the shed soon and use carpet as bedding. Will see how they go but they will be on carpet until I can trust them again. Just as well they leave their mothers good bed alone or they would never be allowed on it. Good luck.. eta: can you nail a few layers of carpet to the bottom of the kennel so he can't drag it out?

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Play around with it until you get everything in right - it will take several goes until you get a routine that your comfortable with. I would rather rest the soft crates on the gazebo and place all the other much needed accessories where ever they fit than risk damaging the car, not something I would be willing to try. I no longer have my wagon and miss it big time so now I am using my OH's Commodore sedan since he upgraded and it has a gas tank in the boot. I wanted to get the 3x3 oztrail but have limited space so got the 2.4x2.4, it actually takes up less room than my folding moon chair does. Since I am only showing one pug at the moment I am constantly surprised by the crap that I end up taking with me for one little dog. The trolley goes behind the front seats with 2 of the bunning compost pens that I set up as toileting area + esky and a few bags of crap with plenty of room and Charli is in a PP20 on the front seat. I have also taken large metal crates in the car with rotties and somehow made it all fit.

I would have thought that the weight of the gazebo will pull the handles off from the car - not something I would be doing. Would it fit on an angle not suspended from the roof?

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I bought 3 large and 1 small and all my dogs LOVE LOVE LOVE them. Sorry can't help with the allergy Q though but doubt there would be any issues being a natural product, if they did I am sure they would have had a reaction by now. Just a suggestion to those who's dogs are only interested in one of the antlers - may be remove the favorite one for a while and see if they change their mind. My girls took to theirs first, Hamish didn't get it at first but now loves his too. These antlers are lasting very well, better than I expected and will get more when I need to. Great product. Actually the pugs antler is looking more worn than what the rotties antlers are.

Good luck Kirty, I hope you can get through to Pia soon. It is very frustrating when they won't co-operate with toilet training. I don't have any suggestions to help, I am losing my own battle here. I can not get through to Charli that the OPEN door is to go outside for toileting. The little bitch can be happily playing outside and seems to think she must come inside again to crap on the tiles - only inches from the open door. Charli has access to the side of the house and the laundry as well as bathroom area, it is blocked off at the kitchen so she can see what is going on. She has only had ONE DAY since she has been here that she actually went outside for toileting.

Both pink and Hamish still go to their mothers boobies as if they are trying to feed from her, she lets them. A couple of times while Hamish is making slurping sounds he has "humped" the air, I have told him to get out of it just to prevent him from taking it any further. Piper is happy with the attention and when she has had enough she will tell them off. They don't run together outside (only the girls do) unless I am with them but they all spend time with each other inside for a few hours before bed. I haven't worried about them "feeding" from her - she doesn't have milk unless she has a phantom and I keep them away from her until she dries up. I have wondered if they still attempt to feed from her since they were weaned at 10 weeks old, I let Piper decide when to wean them since they had such a tough start in life. Pink and Hamish are now 2 1/2 years old. When I was a kid one of my horses was successfully weaned around 7 yrs old. His mother had 2 foals after him and unless he was kept in a separate paddock for months after she weaned a foal he would bring her back in milk again. I clicked about him still feeding from her when we were on a trail ride. We stopped for lunch and he was put in a yard with a mare and he was bossing her around so he was removed. I have never seen him like that before but the penny dropped when I saw the mares owner again I asked if she had recently had a foal - yes, but the foal had been weaned and he could smell the milk from her and wanted a feed. When I spoke with the vet he told me to check his mother again and sure enough she was back in milk - he was just shy of 16 hh and she was 14.2hh. Even though I never saw him feeding from her - he must have been for her to produce milk after such a long time. I just think they do it because they can.

Angelsun - I agree with everything you have written. I have been told many times that we are only guardians - we do not own the bloodlines but as breeders we should aim to breed the best quality that we can. If we could put aside the bullshit between the owners of the dogs imagine how much better off the breeds will be.

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