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Out of fear for their own safety from the look of it. It is also not clear there was any way to safely contain them in the yard. The Beagle may have been tethered.

Very sorry for your loss.

I agree such situations are not simple. Unless you are well trained for them, and for all I know even then, they can feel surreal, time moves in odd ways, and decisions may be instinctive rather than conscious and deliberate. Technical offences may be unintentionally committed, but that doesn't mean they'll end in jail time. Fortunately courts get to decide that and the 'fog of war' type of defence comes to mind. I dare say the posters did expect discussion, and criticism. Good on them for being so upfront. They've made me think more than DoL usually does.

Recommending an operation requiring a general anesthetic just on the chance they'll develop it later in life, and the worse symptom mentioned is snoring? That sort of vet I'd run a mile from.

I'd choose the child in the burning building, unless my subconcious took over and then I just don't know. But I am curious as to why you think choosing the dog would lead to a very very dead dog? Nor can I see why you think such a decision would lead to jail time. Social censure no doubt, but why jail? Back when I did such work that I might come across a disaster situation, I was always told that there was no legal obligation to risk one's life to save another's. Child or adult made no difference. You were never required to risk yourself for another. And I am assuming a burning building situation involves some risk to the rescuer. Has that legal positon changed? I have no doubt if a hypothetical like this happened, that SOMEONE would kill the dog in question. I said I'd HOPE for jail time, but I also have no doubt if this was to happen and a dog was deliberately saved OVER a child and that there was a possibility of saving that child, that every cop involved would go through the summary offences act, crimes act, or case law just to find something to put them away. Well if someone did kill the dog in question, they'd be the criminal. I'm pretty sure we get to choose who or what we put ourselves in physical harm's way for, and I dearly hope it stays that way. Even though I'd choose the child, I hold no anger towards those who'd pick their own. Nor for those who'd choose neither. I don't think we have the right to say what people should risk life and limb for, or label them as mentally ill for a different choice to our own. We don't stand in their shoes.

I'd choose the child in the burning building, unless my subconscious took over and then I just don't know. But I am curious as to why you think choosing the dog would lead to a very very dead dog? Nor can I see why you think such a decision would lead to jail time. Social censure no doubt, but why jail? Back when I did such work that I might come across a disaster situation, I was always told that there was no legal obligation to risk one's life to save another's. Child or adult made no difference. You were never required to risk yourself for another. And I am assuming a burning building situation involves some risk to the rescuer. Has that legal position changed? efs

I've never routinely treated for fleas, I'll only treat if they are present. I have stuck to a 3 month schedule for intestinal worms, but I am thinking of having fecal tests done instead to determine first if it is needed. I only have a couple of dogs though, might not work if you had a pack.

This sums up my position too. Polite children are more than welcome to interact with my dogs. Rough children are not. I tell them so in a manner appropriate to their age, if they listen and modify their behaviour they get praised, and if they don't listen I'll physically intervene as necessary. My dogs are highly unlikely to react aggressively to a child treating them badly. But I sure as hell would, and the child having a disability or developmental disorder would not stop me doing whatever it took to protect my dogs. They are no-one's 'toys' to maul.

Iskiea, if no-one wants to take you in I can lend you a gazebo. But I expect someone will have room.

Good idea, and start getting him used to it again now while you have time to take it slowly, rather than after the op. It is a pain having to keep them quiet but needs must.

I'd suggest they explain the situation to a few kennel owners and see if any will take her. I had a dog who could not tolerate a kc vac, she was allowed at several kennels over the years once I explained it was medically not safe for her to have the vac and that I accepted all liability should she contract it while in the kennel.

If you are able to get home at lunchtime it should be manageable. Interaction in the morning, then into a crate or just left in a quiet room inside with a chew toy or similar, lunchtime time toilet break and maybe some trick training for brain work, back in the crate/room for a couple of hours in the afternoon. When my dog had a carpal arthrodesis op I set up a spare room with a matress on the floor as her 'crate' as she was really too big to leave in a normal crate, there was nothing left in the room she might want to try to climb up on, like a couch. I had a young puppy at the same time, when the adult was out of her room the pup was crated in the lounge room to avoid playing but allow some interaction. It's hard, but if you are organised, stick to a routine and make use of enrichment toys and such it's do-able. It's a couple of months of hard slog to have a chance at a better quality of life for years.

Both TAMS and RSPCA maintain internet databases of lost dogs, worth getting her details on both if you haven't already. Also I'd contact all the vets in the area including the emergency vet in Fyshwick. Edited to add - might be worth editing the thread title to add "Canberra". I know I don't check all the lost dogs posts on here because they are seldom local, but if I see it's in the region I pay attention.

If you have only had him a short time, and he is only 2.5kg under ideal weight, and he has been vet checked, I wouldn't be too worried about getting it onto him quickly. I'd just get him into a good routine and onto a good balanced diet and let him settle in. Oh, and welcome!

I agree with Aidan. The woman didn't know how to behave around the dog, it was up to the owner to tell her or remove the dog. The way he gripped the collar was well-meaning but only reduced the dog's options and increased it's stress. A TV studio is a strange environment for a dog. Over the years I have had dogs do TV, newspaper ads and a cameo in a movie. The people doing that work didn't know dogs, they just knew what shots they wanted. It was up to me to protect the dogs' well-being, not assume they would even understand how to. I don't think that dog looked like it had the temperament or training to even be there, and that judgement was for the owner to make.

One of my Borzoi did that to a Tradie way back in the eighties. The guy had been organised by my roomate and told not to just enter the yard. But he turned up at 6 am on a Sat morning and just let himself in rather than wake us. I didn't even know he was coming or the dog would not have been out - just in case a gate was left open, he was a very friendly dog during normal visiting hours, LOL. The dog took the guy's arm in his mouth and just held him until the yells woke me, one word from me and the dog was happy to let go and come inside. The Tradie was sensible and blamed himself, there were no marks on his skin or anything. In today's environment the dog and I may well have been in trouble.

NOT sad. Just a different approach to boasting. I am very proud. Just not boastful. One does not require the other. I list their big wins in the text of the profile. But acting like it's part of their name when it's not is still odd to me. And to others I am relieved to see. I thought I was just old-fashioned.

why? Were you ashamed of her wins? Did you think you looked boastful? What's naff? I don't get it, I really don't. Showing is a hobby but you are trying to win so why not be proud when it happens, why be made to feel it's something to be ashamed of? Because to me it seems boastful, petty and self-obsessed. My experience is that those who boast loudest are the least worth listening too. The most worthwhile people I know never boast at all, about anything. They don't need to. Hate becoming one of the braggarts - but times change. And the mulitcoloured posts with dancing emoticons and capitals are just way OTT crass to me - UNLESS you are new to showing or to fringies, or you are posting to good friends who know and care about your dogs, or you have a minority breed, then they are entirely fun, LOL. I tried a couple but nah, way too 'look at MEEEE!' for my taste. It's a cultural thing I guess. I don't understand why you would ask if I am ashamed though - does not boasting about something imply shame? That's a new one on me, very not my culture that one.

Hi, So agree........and they dont just post on fb MBIS or MBIG etc.......you see it on the breeds profile lists here on DOL....all the time I was very unsure about putting BIS MBIG in front of one of my girl's profiles - I agree it's naff, but it's the norm for the breed so I eventually went with the flow. Kind of dammed if you do 'cause it's naff but damned if you don't 'cause it looks like they haven't won anything major compared to the others who do. First dogs I have shown for over a decade, and boy the approach to bragging has changed over that time. I haven't put MRUBIG for the one who hasn't cracked a group yet and just has several runner-ups - that seemed just too naff even for me, LOL. I love when a newbie posts even a small win, but posts with copious colours, capitals and emoticons from experienced exhibitors for every fringie do look pretty self-obsessed and sad to me, probably the opposite impression of what they want to achieve.

How interesting! Maggie doesn't seem to serve any particular purpose other than to be a cuddly slug. Oh and fierce defencer of the fence perimeter :laugh: She's never particularly had any great drive to work either... She was a very interesting dog, very instinctual and stubborn but totally focussed on being a shepherd and a guard to me and mine. She taught me a lot that my sighthounds never would have.

I had a very serious Belgian Shepherd who scorned all toys and treats. Liked to work, lived to work really, just didn't do toys. In training, getting to do a job was so self-reinforcing to her she didn't need another reinforcer, so it didn't really matter. She wasn't abused or damaged, and she had access to toys and games as a younsgter, she just grew out of them. It was just her.

I went to the first day. I had a good time but didn't get anything out of it I wouldn't have from watching a DVD. Maybe if I'd been able to stay around for the session in the bar afterwards where he kept saying he'd answer questions I would have got more, but I had to get home to animals. I would have preferred more discussion during the day itself. I think he nailed it when he said he wouldn't come back unless it was for a workshop format. I'd paid for the third day as well, but didn't get enough out of the first to think it warranted the travel to go back. Happy I went though - good to check people out in person.

K9 Pro sells a 'Give me space - don't pat' patch that attaches with velcro to the harnesses he sells. Maybe contact them.

If your dog has a nice temperament and good health, and you give yourself enough time, I think you'd have a good chance of finding a good home. I don't think quarantine on return is much of an issue for any dog you'd think would cope with being boarded for a month in other circumstances, such as an overseas holiday, but it's your decision. I'd suggest contacting the breeder and breed club, as they may have contacts for people wanting a more mature dog. As she is purebred you or the breeder may be able to list her on the mature dogs available section of the main DOL site too, but I am not sure of the rules on that.

I think that a person should be able to pat a strange dog without fear of being bitten, at least for an uninjured dog in a public place. But I don't think anyone has a right to do so, or should ever do so or allow their child to do so, without explicit permission from the animal's handler. People assert all kinds of selfish thing are 'rights', when they are nothing of the kind.