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Yes that was my point. So presumably duns would not do well in the ring? As I think they have brown noses, and I don't think any dog with a genetically brown nose can have dark eyes?

I have to beg to differ. Afghan, Azawakh, Basenji, Borzoi, Deerhound, Greyhound, Irish Wolfhound standards all state must be dark, or dark preferred. Only Ibizan, Pharaoh, Saluki, Sloughi and Whippet permit lighter eyes. :D Which makes sense, as Pharoah and Ibizan require a brown nose, they are 'b b' brown and have to have lighter eyes. Saluki and Whippet accept brown noses for some colours, so they accept b b and therefore have to accept lighter eyes too to make genetic sense. Not sure about Sloughi. I thought dun greyhounds had brown noses, but maybe the show standard doesn't allow for that.

Those markings look like the birdcatcher spots that horses get. There was a Greyhound with that pattern posted on fb recently, also from Irish lines. I wish there was a less misleading label for that pattern in Borzoi, in Afghans it is called Domino after a famous dog of that colour, and in Salukis it's Grizzle. As it is we can have 'sabled red' Borzoi, and 'red sable' Borzoi, and they are visually and genetically different colours. A little confusing!

People involved in the previous rescue are aware of him on fb, he is thought to be one of the Afghan x Pharaoh litter well known to rescue. Not sure if anyone has room atm, there was a suggestion he had been reclaimed by his owners previously.

Borzoi are theoretically allowed in almost any coat colour or pattern , from self coloured black, all shades of cream and red, brindle, black and tan or 'sable' (which is really domino/grizzle ) with no white all the way through to all white and any spotted or parti pattern in between. I don't think the merle gene or aw wild agouti exists in the breed, dd blues occur although I don't think anyone deliberately seeks them out, and bb liver has been seen but is very rare. So in the black series they can be KB dominate black, K br brindle, or Ky, in the agouti series ay red or at black and tan, in the e extension series E , E m melanistic masked, E G grizzled, or ee clear red, in the white spotting series anything from self colour to parti to extreme white, in dilution of black undiluted D or dilute d, but this and liver dilute are not common and not acceptable under various standards, the nose should be black. Probably one of genetically rarest is the pattern called sable in Borzoi which is really at at black and tan combined with the EG E G grizzled gene, the same combination as causes domino in Afghans. It is not rare within the breed but occurs only in Afghans, Salukis, Borzoi and maybe a couple of other rarer sighthounds. It is a little sad having an 'expert' at an Australian dog sho w lecture me on how my Irish marked sabled red Borzoi had too much colour-completely wrong but that is what happens when only heavily white marked are common in the ring locally, I would hate to lose the variety of allowable colour even though I think colour is unimportant compared to other qualities. There have been good developments in DNA testing for colour although much remains to be learnt. Mine have been tested for the agouti, K, and E series including E G just for interest sake.

It is idiotic to say 'Let's stop breeding until we rehome all the dogs that need to be recycled' (as if they're plastic, good grief ... ) because what you end up with is no dogs at all. Ethical pedigree dog breeders already 'control' the number of dogs they breed so there is no need to come here and give pedigree people a lecture. Go ring up BYB and puppyfarmers on Gumtree. Yep, saying that the breeding of purebred pedigree dogs should be controlled more because there are unwanted dogs i n pounds is like saying to a child that they should eat all their veggies because kids are starving in Africa. Sounds righteous but doesn't make a blind bit of difference in truth. All it will do is drive the minority breeds to extinction in this country, and the pounds will still be full because the convenient scapegoat wasn't the real source of the problem.

It's common for ears to do weird things while the pup is teething, I have never worried about it and they have always come good. I don't know anything about breeds with taped ears though.

I have lost two dogs to osteosarcoma, both in the long bones of the leg. It is a common cause of death in my breed. I know treatments have improved since then, the last was 12 years ago, but it is a painful and aggressive disease in my experience and I chose to pts while they still had reasonable quality of life. A heartbreaking decision, but a last gift to give - a dignified death free of pain. My best wishes go out to you and Tess at this difficult time.

LOL yes, anyone who self-proclaims themsleves like that I run a mile!

I've heard a lot of comments similar to that . The only effect is to turn me way. I used to advocate for rescue even though I only have pedigree dogs, now I just don't engage. I don't donate anymore either, except to my own breeds' rescue.

Thanks for sharing your experience TigerJack. It is not an easy subject.

Yes I agree, as she is a cross bred whoever bred her is unlikely to be bound by any code of ethics unfortunately, and may well feel no responsibility. Not that you need a code to act responsibly, I don't mean that. But it makes me angry too, poor little poppet. Perhaps she wasn't born like that and it was a later injury ? I didn't see the show so don't know. I think you are quite likely right, either that or a passionate commitment to life no matter what the suffering, which is bonkers to me. I have had to make a decision whether to pts a disabled pup, much less disabled than the one in the op and she did make it through to a great quality of life - but I was conscious at the time of how hard it is to disentangle your own interest and consider it rationally from the pup's point of view alone. Much agonising went into that decision.

Yep, I'd drop the puppy kibble and switch to an adult version - but your breeder is the best bet for advice.

There is a theory that new born babies may not always be recognised by dogs as 'people', and can tigger prey drive with their noises and movements. Dogs involved in these deaths do often seem to have no other history of aggression towards people, they are quite a specific type of attack. Very, very sad.

All the more reason the not let him get too fat or work him too hard - slower more even growth and a pup on the lean rather than fat side (I don't mean really skinny) has the best chance of a sound adult here I would think. Lots of access to free running and playing but he sets the pace and he can stop when tired and get plenty of rest. And plenty of sunlight and grass to run on, not too much concrete or smooth hard surfaces.

The best she can do I think is grow him nice and slow - no nutrient dense puppy foods or over-supplementation. Either a good mid-range adult kibble, or a well balanced raw diet, and let him take his time growing. Keep him lean, not roly poly. And keep his exercise at sensible levels without too many stairs and such. If he is truly a Mastiff cross RR he will be very big - but most dogs labelled as Mastiff in the pound are mastiff-type at best, and no more a real Mastiff than I am, so he might end up large but not giant. Many dogs are desexed early and grow just fine, so you can't assume problems will occur. But the thread linked in the post above, and especially the reseach referenced in that link, provides lots of info on possible effects. As an owner of a tall breed I would never desex early, but not everyone has the choice.

Yes it is pretty well unbelievable to me that anyone who works with dogs would not see how risky that is. Even if it wasn't so blindingly risky, to leave a dog in a position like that while they went off and had lunch is unacceptable, put the dogs in a safe pen or crate where they can move a bit for God sake. Selfish, irresponsible, negligent and cruel. If the RSPCA won't prosecute I hope you can find other avenues to bring them to account. Everyone who cares for their dogs would understand and share your pain and shock.

I had an elderly Tervueren develop vestibular disease. She couldn't walk without falling and required intensive nursing for about a week, maybe a little longer. I took her outside to toilet using a towel around her waist which worked well. She made a near full recovery, maybe not quite so sure on her feet afterwards but she was also pretty old.

Agree. That's a kilo a day That is horrendous. I agree, I have a dog who can fret and eat poorly in kennels no matter how well cossetted, her normal weight is roughly the same as a dobe and at her worst she dropped about 3 kilos in a week. 7 kilos for a dobe-sized dog is a huge weight loss, add to that the untreated injury and they weren't paying any attention to this dog, I doubt they fed it. I would take a vet report and complaint to the RSPCA and to who ever issues their license to have multiple dogs and operate a boarding business(local council maybe?).

I had a dog called Neschenka. And I always called her Neschenka. No shortening, it just suited her long. And Darkness was always Darkness, too.

deleted, it's turned into one of 'those' threads and I can't be bothered.

deleted, it's turned into one of 'those' threads and I can't be bothered

I am so sorry, so devastating. Losing a dog to age or illness is hard enough, to lose one like this, heartbreaking.

Even if the dog is tiny, the retractable leads can be a great hazard. Hardly any users I see have the sense to shorten and lock them when around other dogs and people.

It is normally the end with the coloured squares