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I used Vetgen, they were fine to deal with. I especially wanted to test for EG, but had at and k done also as they had a deal on. Entirely curiosity driven.

I know, my old Belgian Tervueren used to sleep under my bed and snore like a foghorn. It took me months to get used to sleeping without her there.

Spam hit on Yahoo apparently. Delete suspect emails without opening. The group itself will not explode.

A couple of years ago I read an article about young children who died after being forgotten and left in cars in hot conditions in the US. It was memorable because these weren't the cases of bad or negligent parents, up until the deaths they had been very diligent parents. But they had a catastrophic, inexplicable lapse of memory that killed their child and destroyed their own lives. A typical example was someone on the way to drop their child at day care, then to work, child in a carrier or seat behind the driver. Someof the parents didn't realise they hadn't dropped the child off until they went pick them up again. Sometimes they suddenly realised during the day, but too late. Sometimes they were prosecuted for manslaughter but often the decision was made not to. Apparently such deaths occur 10 to 20 times a year. I find in unimaginable to forget a child or dog in a car, but apparently it is something that people sometimes just do. Frightening.

One of mine does that, starts as a play bow facing the other dog, then a complete 360 in the air but low to the ground, so she is back in exactly the same spot. It is so quick !

I would love to see this I bet sighthound zoomies are spectacular :) Lol, yes spectacular and slightly 'heart in mouth' in a smaller space.

Deleted, it has turned into one of 'those' threads and I can't be bothered with them.

Down the straight (the length of the lawn), jump the lavender, right turn around the hills hoist, hairpin left turn back around the lattice, along behind the plum tree and turn right to come out of the garden in front of the wattle. About turn. Repeat

That is where my mind went to. Although I wish they could develop one for kanagaroos, to avoid the need for culling of 'trapped' populations.

No advancing here, we are just marching in circles.

Being a pet is a real job, but we don't all have the same needs or wants in pets. Others can eat all the big macs they want, as long as they don't try to regulate me into eating them as well. I personally don't care if someone breeds primarily for the pet market , not if the quality of care is there and they are honest about what they are breeding, and if you got that from my post I don't see how. It is curious that it is an issue you raise though, I didn't realise you expect this test to be used by breeders. I thought that was just the S.A. proposal. The pedigree purebred breeders I know already have a pretty good handle on temperament without a standardised all breeds testing regime. They tend to know their breeds, their lines, and their individual dogs in some depth.

Ziwipeak is the only canned food mine happily eat so I sometimes use it when travelling, I think it is good quality but a bit too expensive to feed often to large dogs. I have used the dry food as treats but they prefer a few other things.

My main concern is it being used as part of a drift to a "McDogs" culture, where only a certain sort of bland and (to me) boring temperament is considered valid. Some of us are very attached to our somewhat less than mainstream breeds and their idiosyncracies. I'll admit it was the media article that raised my concerns, before that I looked at it as an interesting piece of research. But that article put quite another, somewhat worrying, slant on it. I dont think that is your fault at all, it is just reflective of a failure of trust between some of the the dog community and government legislators more generally.

I liked a Slink of Salukis as well. A Snobbery of Salukis was what immediately popped into my head tho' :laugh: I love a Snobbery of Salukis! :laugh: So do I. And along the same lines "a Snoot of Sighthounds"

A Beauty of Borzoi

Are they flat, as the thread title says, or turning inward? I would be concerned by either at that age to be honest, sometimes feet can do odd things during teething but it doesn't sound like that.

I don't think desexing prevents UTIs? My entire girls have never had a UTI between the lot of them, except for one as a baby puppy years ago, well before she would have been desexed even if I had planned to. As others have said, you would have to be extremely unlucky for her to be having a completely silent season in the first place,get out, and find an entire male, mate and be back home in 30 minutes without a male escort and no licking or slobber, so I don't think pregnancy is a likely worry. I have a door opener, she mostly works on the fridge but it does make you more vigilant!

Thanks for the info, I think the dun are quite attractive, and one of cases where I don't really get why an original colour should not be covered by the show standard. Guess someone had a reason.

I think there are a lot that don't. The ANKC required tests are listed in the regs on the ANKC website (Part 6 Section 8). I can only see GSD, Rottweiler, Bedlington Terrier, Australian Shepherd, Bull Mastiff, Labrador Retriever, Golden Retriever and Flat Coat Retriever in a very quick scan as requiring tests, I may have missed some. Breed clubs may have other recommended testing, just not ANKC mandated (yet).

Have to get Greytmate or GapVic to answer this one. It's quite rare and does not, AFAIK, exsist in the showbred lines. I hadn't realised it didn't exist in show lines until someone mentioned it in another thread, I had assumed they were part of the old gene pool. Apparently not though.

I was going by your original post that brindle 'doesn't/can't hide' in GSDs?? It can in many breeds, in mine KB dominant blacks and ee reds can be brindle and not have it visually expressed, but if you are right and it doesn't/can't hide in GSDs I can't see how it could, umm, hide for several generations and then pop up. I think it probably could as I can't see why the recessive black in GSD's wouldn't mask it, but I was just going by your words. Anyway I'll back out slowly now, :laugh:

I am wondering if the dun in Greyhounds might have been a spontaneous mutation, as apparently they all trace back to one dog. It seems unlikely to me that the Grey people would have cross bred with anything as it was all purpose breeding and nothing else did the job better (unless perhaps a bit of Whippet - seems unlikely still). Perhaps one of the Greyhound enthusiasts will know.

These days that could be easily verified by requiring parentage DNA testing for such an unusual occurance. sure- but not when the new colour was introduced several generations back and not recorded accurately ;) Yes, hence the wording 'these days' ;) edited to add little winky eye, lol.

I am totally against cross breeding for colour. And many times the breed colours are as they are because colour is intrinsic to original purpose, or the original population from which the breed developed, and is a crucial element of breed type. However I am also sad when rarer colours are lost just because of fashion, and sometimes it seems to be a whim that has decided which of the original colours stay or go. If there is no compelling rational behind it such as a health reason I think its to be regretted that variety within a breed is foresaken. One example of a lost colour that comes to mind is in Deerhounds, they used to come in sand and red and the standard allows for it, but I have never seen one and doubt they exist anymore in pure form.

These days that could be easily verified by requiring parentage DNA testing for such an unusual occurance.